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Wasn't Buuhan only going to destroy the living world?
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Dragon Ball (Toei) GT upgrade (Redone)
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I think Vegetto should scale up with this
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wasn't the scream done via chain reaction
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Yes it was done via chain reaction the power of the verse page states that too grand Kai planet is stated to be smaller than earth so that wouldn’t matter
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Its in the db toei page it used to say Universal+ but it’s now Low Multiversal due to the cosmology upgrade you should find it if you go to power of the verse
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yeah, i found it, also where does it say that grand kai' planet is smaller than earth?
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Ok I’ve added the cosmology notes I’ll apply Omega Shenrons changes now
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Well Goku says it in the afterlife tournament arc
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Would Possibly work?
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i think it would probably work better
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I think it would too but I wanna make sure DDM and Ant are ok with it
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true, are you going to update Vegetto too?
Vietthai96
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Now now, let slow down here, what Vegito??, we don't have Toeiverse Vegito profile yet, only the canon one.
Also, the funny part here, if we separate Toei cosmology with Canon's one, then the Universe 7 on Dragon Ball (Toei) page should be removed, since the concept of multiverse inhabiting a large timeline is Super's concept which was introduced way after Z anime and GT, if you guys separating distinctions between Toei Macrocosm with Canon Macrocosm, while still keeping concept of Universe 7 which from Super era mean inconsistency will arise
Also, the funny part here, if we separate Toei cosmology with Canon's one, then the Universe 7 on Dragon Ball (Toei) page should be removed, since the concept of multiverse inhabiting a large timeline is Super's concept which was introduced way after Z anime and GT, if you guys separating distinctions between Toei Macrocosm with Canon Macrocosm, while still keeping concept of Universe 7 which from Super era mean inconsistency will arise
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But wasn't it separated already?
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It is separated, however you guys still using Universe 7 for Toei cosmology, Z anime and GT didn't have this distinction/number, there is only singular Macrocosm, the concept of multiverse with U1 - U12, and a large timeline encompassing them is Super's concept. That mean now we somehow differentiate Toei and Canon cosmology, yet compositing them at the same time. Universe 7 on Toeiverse page should be removed, replace it with something else
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for me you could do like Saint Seiya's mixture where they use other lines to fill in the gaps, I just think that this division is very complex
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I don't want to be harsh, but if we still using the Universe 7, that mean we accept that Super cosmology is the same as Toei cosmology
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I don’t really understand what you’re saying can you rephrase it
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...........Toei cosmology doesn't have Universe 7, to the verse there is only one Universe, or Macrocosm. Universe 7 is belong to Super. However the Toeiverse page using the name Universe 7 that mean we currently separate yet composite Toei cosmology with Super cosmology that the same time, that the problem
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even worse, on the back of Toei there was never a number or anything like that, for me we could use what is missing in cosmology and put everything as canonical, at least something about cosmology
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What do you mean???
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I'm referring to all the evidence about DB's cosmology, as spin-offs and putting them as canonical in cosmology, but only the cosmology evidence, you know?
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Ah I see what you’re saying but the macrocosm is basically Universe 7 but I could change it to the Macrocosm if you want me to
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Not much, however as i said above, the word Universe 7 on Toeiverse page should be removed, since that term belong to Super which introduced the concept of many universes within a large timeline, Z Anime and then GT disn't have this concept, so the word Universe 7 should be removed and replace with something else or people will confuse that we separate Toei cosmology with Canon/Super cosmology yet at the same time composite them. It should be noted that Z anime and GT didn't have the term such as 12 universes; Universe 7, 8, 9, etc..., it only have single Universe
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This makes sense to me.
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I don't think that this upgrade will affect Super in any way, only the Z anime and GT
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if Omega Shenron can have possibly 2-C due to the afterlife and living universe merging
i fixed it to macrocosm
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Anyway, there is actually a bigger picture when it come to cosmology of both continuities, however i probably will fix them in the future with a different thread, for now just let it be, now this thread can be closed, unless you guy still discuss scaling
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we have to see if Possibly or Likely 2-C Omega Shenron is ok and if it gets accepted or denied than the thread will close
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I think you should, if possible, upgrade Dragon Ball Super's macrocosm to low 2-C or 2-C
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its stated t be a side story, = alternate timeline = same cosmology
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Only a Range upgrade for omega shenron is possible but a bureaucrat disagrees with the thread completely.
Other Moderators Like @Planck69 are neutral.
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Seconded
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I also agree.
This suggested change can be applied then.
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Dbs’s macrocosm is already Low 2-C
the Toeiverse macrocosm and it changes to Macrocosm because it’s not referred to Universe 7 like in DBS but the cosmology is accepted for both DBZ anime and Gt
Okay. That is probably fine to apply then.
I applied it when you said this
The discussion is if Omega Shenron’s AP can be put as Possibly or Likely 2-C
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Heh? 2-C macrocosm for both GT and Z and thus super?
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