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Hello, this will be a second attempt to upgrade GT chars.....now, here it was the first (failed) attempt to actually upgrade the cosmolgy:
However, as Zamasu said there are clearly indicators as of why Toei cosmolgy is too different from Canon.
I will be using his arguments again, MINUS Buuhan's Universal feat, since it's been already argued a lot and it doesn't seem to get the pass.....
Anyways.......let's see how it goes:
1)
Here Popo states that all of the past present and future are created in this room. The other realms, such as the afterlife, weren’t established yet and the other universes don’t seem to exist, so this statement does seem to imply the past present and future of the living universe.
2)
It says "Separated by time and space, the harsh trials that the sleeping father and son must face continue on and on." Goku is in the afterlife and Gohan is on earth. The Narrator says they’re both separated by time and space. That's a super blatant statement that heavily implies that the universe and afterlife are two different spacetime continuums.
3)
Here Shin straight up calls the living universe "the temporal world", which is another straight forward statement.
4)
This was rejected because "Heaven revolves around a sun" or "a planet can't be universe sized", but mainly because of these two photos. Pixel scaling these specific images gives heaven a volume of 264405000000m^3 which is the size of a mountain. This makes no sense because all mortals in the universe are supposed to fit on heaven. We also know in DB that not everything is drawn to scale all the time.
Fifth, we have a GT statement:
Zamasu got a friend to translate it for him and it says:
Goku: あれ？ あの世にしては変なとこに来ちまったぞ｡
Huh? I've come to a strange place in Otherworld.
Pan: そこは 時空のはざまで 外からじゃ誰にも助けられないんですって！
That place is between space-times, no one can help you from the outside.
Another clear as day statement, as the space Goku is in is between the universe and otherworld.
Those are several spacetime statements so I think that’s more that enough evidence that U7 in DBZ, GT, Xenoverse and Heroes, is 2-C.
THE SCALING:
Due to the heaven statement, the 3-Cs would likely get upgraded with an updated calc.
Omega Shenron is 3-A for his universal statements. With the evidence provided, Omega and SSJ4 Gogeta would be 2-C.
If this gets accepted:
1.Toeiverse U7 would be 2-C
2. Omega, Gogeta, and SSJ4 Goku with Dragon Fist would be 2-C
NOTE:. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THREAD THAT WAS REDONE, JUST CLICK ABOVE THE LINK TO ZAMASU CHAN'S CRT, YOU WILL SEE THIS CRT BUT WITH BUUHAN'S FEATS.
Edit: however I will leave his thread here, again:
However, as Zamasu said there are clearly indicators as of why Toei cosmolgy is too different from Canon.
I will be using his arguments again, MINUS Buuhan's Universal feat, since it's been already argued a lot and it doesn't seem to get the pass.....
Anyways.......let's see how it goes:
1)
Here Popo states that all of the past present and future are created in this room. The other realms, such as the afterlife, weren’t established yet and the other universes don’t seem to exist, so this statement does seem to imply the past present and future of the living universe.
2)
It says "Separated by time and space, the harsh trials that the sleeping father and son must face continue on and on." Goku is in the afterlife and Gohan is on earth. The Narrator says they’re both separated by time and space. That's a super blatant statement that heavily implies that the universe and afterlife are two different spacetime continuums.
3)
Here Shin straight up calls the living universe "the temporal world", which is another straight forward statement.
4)
This was rejected because "Heaven revolves around a sun" or "a planet can't be universe sized", but mainly because of these two photos. Pixel scaling these specific images gives heaven a volume of 264405000000m^3 which is the size of a mountain. This makes no sense because all mortals in the universe are supposed to fit on heaven. We also know in DB that not everything is drawn to scale all the time.
Fifth, we have a GT statement:
Zamasu got a friend to translate it for him and it says:
Goku: あれ？ あの世にしては変なとこに来ちまったぞ｡
Huh? I've come to a strange place in Otherworld.
Pan: そこは 時空のはざまで 外からじゃ誰にも助けられないんですって！
That place is between space-times, no one can help you from the outside.
Another clear as day statement, as the space Goku is in is between the universe and otherworld.
Those are several spacetime statements so I think that’s more that enough evidence that U7 in DBZ, GT, Xenoverse and Heroes, is 2-C.
THE SCALING:
Due to the heaven statement, the 3-Cs would likely get upgraded with an updated calc.
Omega Shenron is 3-A for his universal statements. With the evidence provided, Omega and SSJ4 Gogeta would be 2-C.
If this gets accepted:
1.Toeiverse U7 would be 2-C
2. Omega, Gogeta, and SSJ4 Goku with Dragon Fist would be 2-C
NOTE:. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THREAD THAT WAS REDONE, JUST CLICK ABOVE THE LINK TO ZAMASU CHAN'S CRT, YOU WILL SEE THIS CRT BUT WITH BUUHAN'S FEATS.
Edit: however I will leave his thread here, again:
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