Dragon Ball Super - Jiren and Co. Upgrade via Void Scaling

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Btw, is this possibly viable as some minor supporting evidence/consistency for the >>GoDs scaling?

The Grand Priest clearly feared the Spirit Bomb (which various ToP god tiers scale to) doing far more collateral damage than what was considered from the GoDs fighting.

wasn't it amped by people like beerus and whis?

 

[Shadyboi0]

wasn't it amped by people like beerus and whis?

Where did this come from?

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Where did this come from?

to power the genkidama they used beerus and whis iirc

 

[SSJGeminiJJ]

wasn't it amped by people like beerus and whis?

No, it was Goku and the whole U7 team minus Vegeta.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

No, it was Goku and the whole U7 team minus Vegeta.

ok thx for clarifying

 

[KLOL506]

@DarkDragonMedeus Can you unlock the profiles so that the edits can be carried out and the references applied with the reference scrollbox?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Which page list? I can do that if I have the full list. Goku, Jiren, Vegeta, Toppo, and Broly?

 

[LordTracer]

Which page list? I can do that if I have the full list. Goku, Jiren, Vegeta, Toppo, and Broly?

Goku
Vegeta
Piccolo
Frieza
Android 17
Beerus
Champa
All the Angels
Kefla
Anilaza
Toppo
Gogeta
Broly
Jiren
Gamma 2
Cell Max
Likely Belmod

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I unlocked all the ones that were locked.

 

[Sus]

this is a certified massive L, but one day salvation will come when dbs gets confirmed 3-A

Well, goku will be 2C until that day comes

 

[Sus]

I want to make sure. Are you guys ok with these two having possible/likely 2-C ratings?

Belmod is stated to be stronger than beerus, so yes (i know its a wrestling match, but a likely is ok)

But beerus scales to what?

 

[Sus]

Its just a inconsistency. We see plp like broly,moro,goku,granola ect go all out and the universe is not destroyed

7. *******. Pages.
And people are STILL using the SAME argument, just stop

 

[LordTracer]

I’ve applied the changes, the pages can be re-locked now.

 

[Sus]

Yeah, even Marcarita herself as well was worried for Jiren after feeling its power, despite it being common knowledge to them Jiren>>>Belmod and the GoDs.

So there’s that too, which should give further credibility to Grand Priest’s Spirit Bomb>> clashing GoDs notion.

Sorry that i made too many posts but can this be taken into account too? The spirit bomb (and ss1 kefla) should scale too

 

[Aachintya31]

Sorry that i made too many posts but can this be taken into account too? The spirit bomb (and ss1 kefla) should scale too

We dont have a page for genkidama.

 

[LordTracer]

Sorry that i made too many posts but can this be taken into account too? The spirit bomb (and ss1 kefla) should scale too

Preferably, that should get its own CRT.

 

[Aachintya31]

Preferably, that should get its own CRT.

Wait before closing why did you put all God of destruction to 2-C , that's what not the OP proposed.

 

[Sus]

We dont have a page for genkidama.

Why do we even need a page? Just put "2C with the spirit bomb" in a key in goku's profile

Preferably, that should get its own CRT.

Okay

 

[LordTracer]

Wait before closing why did you put all God of destruction to 2-C , that's what not the OP proposed.

I didn’t…?

 

[Aachintya31]

I didn’t…?

Ok maybe somebody else did it, but to me it's showing 2-C on their profiles.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Should I close the thread now the changes have been applied?

 

[LordTracer]

Ok maybe somebody else did it, but to me it's showing 2-C on their profiles.

I just checked, every GoD other than Beerus, Champa and Belmod are still Low 2-C.

 

[LordTracer]

Should I close the thread now the changes have been applied?

I would wait until the pages are re-locked. I’ll go ask the all-purpose request thread to lock them.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I would wait until the pages are re-locked. I’ll go ask the all-purpose request thread to lock them.

K

 

[Aachintya31]

So what are the overall changes to scaling?

GoD = At least Low 2-C ( placeholder for being able to contribute half the power of a 2-C feat )

2 GoDs = 2-C

WoV shaking treshold > 3 GoDs = > 2-C

UI 1 Goku / Supressed Jiren > At least Low 2-C ( the two of them together shook the WoV )

UI 2 Goku / SS2 Kefla >> At least Low 2-C

SSB Goku ( Post UI2) / SSB Vegeta >> At least Low 2-C

SSB Kaiolel Goku / SSBE Vegeta / Toppo = 2-C thanks to linear 20x boosts and Toppos Hakai

UI 3/ MUI /Jiren / full power Jiren / limits broken Jiren = 2-C

What about Broly and Gogeta?

@LordTracer this is what OP agreed upon so beerus and champa should be At least low 2-C and belmod and genee should get possible/likely 2-C

 

[LordTracer]

@LordTracer this is what OP agreed upon so beerus and champa should be At least low 2-C and belmod and genee should get possible/likely 2-C

No, actually, this is what the OP agreed upon, and he agreed to leave Geene out of the scaling later.

 

[Aachintya31]

No, actually, this is what the OP agreed upon, and he agreed to leave Geene out of the scaling later.

Ok but what makes beerus and champa scale suddenly out of nowhere.?
If they become 2-C why are others still Atleast Low 2-C instead of being 2-C or unknown

 

[LordTracer]

Ok but what makes beerus and champa scale suddenly out of nowhere.?

The fact that they’re stronger than current Goku and Vegeta, who were upgraded by this…

 

[Sus]

Goku only surpassed beerus with third ultra instinct omen, beerus scales above current SSBKK20 goku, i think

 

[Aachintya31]

The fact that they’re stronger than current Goku and Vegeta, who were upgraded by this…

Goku and vegeta were upscaled by the combined feat. I guess there is no indication beerus and champa are stronger than ToP 2-C characters in the anime continuity.

 

[LordTracer]

If they become 2-C why are others still Atleast Low 2-C instead of being 2-C or unknown

Cause the other GoDs don’t scale to them and there’s no reason for them to scale to them. They just scale to “two GoD can destroy two universes” thing.

 

[Aachintya31]

What a scam for Beerus and Champa LMAO

 

[LordTracer]

Anyway, the pages have been re-locked, so I will close this.

 

[AKM sama]

What says Arak and the other GoDs were fighting seriously? Seems like a very high leap in logic if we just assume they were using all their power without any clear cut statement.

 

[AKM sama]

I mean, just looking at the video linked in the OP, you can see that none of the GoDs fighting were even out of breath let alone had a scratch. I'm surprised so many people agreed to it.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Came in late, but didn't Whis said there's only one mortal who is stronger than a GoD? And he was clearly talking about Jiren

And Whis doesn't say stronger than Beerus, or Belmod, just a GoD in general

 

[LordTracer]

What says Arak and the other GoDs were fighting seriously? Seems like a very high leap in logic if we just assume they were using all their power without any clear cut statement.

This was already explained several pages before. They were supposed to test the durability of the stage, it would be illogical for them to hold back when they’re trying to test its durability.

Also Liquiir says to “reffirm our superiority over all the participating universes”. Holding back their strength would defeat that purpose as well.

 

[LordTracer]

Came in late, but didn't Whis said there's only one mortal who is stronger than a GoD? And he was clearly talking about Jiren

He said that before the ToP (and he didn’t say only one, he just said that a mortal that strong exists). Every mortal 2-C other than Jiren only got that stronger after the ToP.

 

[Aachintya31]

I mean, just looking at the video linked in the OP, you can see that none of the GoDs fighting were even out of breath let alone had a scratch. I'm surprised so many people agreed to it.

Yeah even during the baseball match, beerus and champa became all bruised and bloody nothing seemed to have happened to the universe. So it's really not the fact that two fighting destroyers could destroy 2 universes even after fighting for a significant time.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

He said that before the ToP (and he didn’t say only one, he just said that a mortal that strong exists). Every mortal 2-C other than Jiren only got that stronger after the ToP.

He said also in the ToP, and he was clearly only referring to Jiren regarding his full strength being above the GoDs