Well, my thread was locked for no reason so I am going to continue my reply to @AKM Sama here.
Posting a massive wall of text isn't debunking. Argumentum ad nauseum and verbosium isn't debunking. I already addressed all of the same points in my earlier comment and if you're hellbent on being wilfully ignorant and stubborn then I can't repeat the same things again and again.
Yeah of course not. But debunking your arguments, is in fact debunking your arguments.Obviously just saying a lot of stuff is not debunking your argument, but I had to post the entire dialogue, which makes much longer, because you kept lying about it. I mean, your entire argument is based on things that are simply factually untrue:
-You claim that Beerus had, previously in the fight, had explicitly questioned Goku's limits, so him raging out only at the end would be nonsensical. This is false, because the dialogue I posted proves that
the only time he questioned Goku's limits was in the final scene. So, this was just based on a lie.
-You claim that the final scene mirrored previous scenes, where Goku says "Not yet!" then immedaitely becomes stronger. This is false, Goku says "Not yet!" and then nothing happens, AND THEN Beerus questions his limits, and ONLY THEN does Goku overpower the SoD. It distinctly contrasts previous scenes, not mirrors them.
-That the scene has him smiling while he explains this to Beerus. This is false, when he delivers the line he is clearly stern and serious/mad/irritated, hence the crinkled eyebrows/eyes.
At this point, it isn't even a matter of interpretation, you're just not correct about the details of the scene.
Yes very convenient. Let's keep ignoring the fact that
Goku was smiling before and
after that line . Let's ignore that he had a calm tone throughout the dialogue and also ignore the blatantly obvious fact that he was struggling to speak properly because of the
physical pai that made his eyebrows like that, even
after he was smiling when he finished his dialogue
Did I ever dispute that he smiled? No, I did not. Did you even read my post that you're responding to? He smiled, after proving Beerus wrong, and then explains why he is angry in the scene. That's the literal presentation of the scene. It could not be more clear, with the zoom-in sequence, the ways his eyes and eyebrow crinkled,
emphasizing that when he delivered the line he was clearly irritated/angry.
Yeah he was obviously in pain, which is exactly why he fell asleep after he finished talking. It truly shows how poor your argument is, that you claim the framing of the scene is to emphasize that he was hurt. It's obvious he was hurt, why the **** would that be given so much emphasis? Is that a compelling plot point?? The sequence was emphasizing that he was angry, explaining why he was so enraged just moments prior. He got enraged, and then the conversation was simply explaining WHY he was so angry, with the choreography being used to emphasize this. Not, in some convoluted way, emphasizing that....he was hurt when he was making casual conversation with Beerus for no particular reason, "politely."
And hence, Base Goku "absorbing SSG into Base" and being stronger than BoG SSG going forward from BoG is false.
