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Is there any character in DB that in character will just go for the kill immediately?
Cause goddamn Sans soloing DBZ is crazy
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Serlock_Holmes
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Why would he fair any different?
try that junk again bone head
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try that junk again bone head
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Because he isn't Canon goku. He doesn't play and actually has haxes
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Yeah, Freeza. Or any other villain. But for some reason everyone thinks DB Villains will waste their time torturing any random bozo for no reason.Is there any character in DB that in character will just go for the kill immediately?
Cause goddamn Sans soloing DBZ is crazy
Serlock_Holmes
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But...but torture.
Sans still has his moves which will kill goku if hit and Sans has first attack. There is a thread on whether he can disable flight.
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Xeno Goku quite literally Negs the entire Undertale Verse and he resists 4D soul hax so San‘s attacks wouldn’t do anything
I’m not aware of any move that Sans has that would kill Xeno Goku specifically but if youre referring to dbs goku then yeah
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Sans isn't hitting goku, not when he can make himself hundreds of times faster while also having DD. The moment the match starts the moment sans sees grandpa gohan chilling with raditz.
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But nothing. I can only see that happening with some DB villains like King Piccolo and Tao Pai Pai. Freeza, Gero, Cell, Buu, Hit, Jiren and Moro have all shown they will instantly slaughter any random jobber they come across. They only screw around with their food when it's someone they have personal beef with or want to test their abilities against.
Nullflowerblush
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Why is Gohan in Hell?
Serlock_Holmes
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Hit and Jiren won due to that.
Serlock_Holmes
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What the frick why is he in hell.
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War crimes.
Serlock_Holmes
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Also the argument was that Sans would still avoid the attacks via teleport and just danmaku them. Mean the ones that actually fight. That's why only hit and Jiren won with Jiren being due to eyes and Hit time-stop.
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Yeah I found that to be BS because nearly every DB character can create massive explosions. Freeza blew up a city with a tiny Death Beam in RoF for example. No one has ever given an example of Sans being able to avoid city-size explosions. All it takes is being hit by even an inch and he'll die. Hell, I don't recall anyone explaining how Sans can avoid telekinesis which Freeza and Cell both have.
Serlock_Holmes
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That they would die before being able to use it.
Nullflowerblush
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Danmaku when I
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No they wouldn't. That implies Sans' attacks are inherently faster than them which is nonsense. Especially since Ki attacks regularly scale above the user. Not to mention Dragon Ball characters create Afterimages by temporarily amplifying their speed further. Every single Dragon Ball fighter can augment their speed, meaning even in an equalised match they can still have superior speed. To add further, his Durability negation is based off KARMA which isn't instant and DB characters don't have '1 HP' souls when we see they can resist their entire existence being erased.
Hell, I don't believe anyone has ever even successfully argued that Sans' attacks can't just be destroyed. What stops Cell from erasing his bones? Or destroying his Gaster Blasters? I certainly don't see anything on his page arguing that they somehow can't be interacted with.
At the absolute most you're getting an inconclusive result if you argue Sans' attack can one shot them and reach them at the same time that their blast explodes him.
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Why do some people act like Sans' danmaku is some unavoidable touhou gameplay shit
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Pretty sure Xeno Goku has passive abilities. Any decently haxed Heroes character kills him without lifting a finger from hax alone.
Also, he has soul destruction resistance. As does DBS Anime Goku. As does DBS Anime Vegeta and Frieza, and anyone who resists hakai. Sans also gets murdered without speed equalisation.
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The only loss Sans got was against Toei Broly, since he's really the only character that actually starts fights with an explosive wave
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Straight up resists soul manipulation for resisting the abilities of Shroom the literal grim reaper
Serlock_Holmes
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You should maybe have said that in the thread which was a stomp in favour of Sans.
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Apparently resisting soul destruction isn't enough. Fair
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Probably because of the reputation his boss fight has. Which is funny because a human child with enough time can adapt to his patterns and exhaust him. And characters like Goku have shown extreme adaptability that lets them defeat opponents with thousands of years of experience.
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Tbf the experience doesn't matter too much
Regardless Sans' danmaku shouldn't be anything more than light work to adapt to
And the attacks can be destroyed
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What Sir Marvelous said. Plus none of the characters who fought him had that.
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he doesn't have resistance to Sans' method of soul destruction, besides Sans' hax foes beyond just affecting the soul
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I believe the experience matters because Goku has shown he is more than capable of adapting to a wide variety of attack patterns on the fly and can outdo thousands of years of training and experience within a single battle. The idea he can't adapt to Sans' Danmaku is absurd as a result.
How many times does Chara/Frisk take to beat Sans canonically? Who knows. I doubt it's more than a thousand attempts in Toby Fox's head though. So if a child can adapt to Sans in 1000 attempts then I'm pretty sure the super genius martial artist who can overcome fighters many times more experienced than him in just a single fight can adapt to Sans in just one fight.
Which makes it even more ridiculous because Freeza vaporised hundreds of Moon-level soldiers simply by powering up with his aura. Sans realistically shouldn't even be able to bypass any of these characters with his attacks if they project their aura.
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He still gets passive haxed I'm pretty sure.
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Heck, Jiren, a recent example, stopped Base Goku's Kamehameha by... existing.
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by Xeno Goku he is, the others like Freeza he isn't
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Dude straight up glares a Spirit Bomb back at Goku.
Serlock_Holmes
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Still dies to a tier 9 skeleton.
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IIRC it can happen up to 10 times
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Jiren is one of two mentioned exceptions to the Dragon Ball vs Sans flamebait
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the entire point was that he would die before adapting
you know, using the fact that someone is a child doesn't really tell much about their experience
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far more actually, we don't have a solid number tho
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And we just talked about the premise of why that is wrong
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