Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Sir_Marvulous]

you said that they had to hit someone with a Soul, you never said that they need to hit a person only, but for that i ask, where did you get that limitation from?

If a status effect inducing attack gets blocked by a barrier it's not gonna induce the status effect

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

not accepted in the profiles currently

release ki

9-B attacks destroyed

 

[Omegabronic]

If a status effect inducing attack gets blocked it's not gonna induce the status effect

.....you are still getting hit when you block something, it inflicts the stat by simply touching any of the attacks

release ki

9-B attacks destroyed

.....still can't see this "aura passively attacks all that comes into it, therefore weaker attacks are destroyed" thing in the profiles

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

.....you are still getting hit when you block something, it inflicts the stat by simply touching any of the attacks

barrier

.....still can't see this "aura passively attacks all that comes into it, therefore weaker attacks are destroyed" thing in the profiles

he didn't say shit about anything being passive he said "flexes aura" that is an action

 

[Fezzih_007]

Sans is just about as a monster as any alien, or animal people, or mummy, ghosts, etc, that Goku has encountered, he is nowhere threatening enough in his appearence,

And Goku Go to the kill against this, yeah.
And Sans is evil anyway, so Goku would Go for the kill.

have you not read any of OG db?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

you said that they had to hit someone with a Soul, you never said that they need to hit a person only, but for that i ask, where did you get that limitation from?


not accepted in the profiles currently


also not accepted in the profiles currently


i still need scans of that being a thing that their aura do passively


true, but would any of them even try to dodge at first against 9-B attacks?


why would goku use after images in the very begining of the fight?


why is everyone assuming that goku will take Sans seriously enough to try and predict his attacks to dodge everything that he trows in the begining? He can feel that Sans is 9-B, in his mind sans is just some fodder who can do nothing against him


since when is every death beam that he trows that big?

If goku senses that sans is fodder then he'll throw a blast at him and boom.
Also, Why would ki destroying weaker attacks needs to be accepted? it's literally just an energy feat that anynone with higher AP can do...

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

And Goku Go to the kill against this, yeah.
And Sans is evil anyway, so Goku would Go for the kill.

Might wanna reword that to "Goku can sense his killing intent"

 

[Fezzih_007]

Might wanna reword that to "Goku can sense his killing intent"

That too.

 

[Omegabronic]

barrier

yeah.......i said in reference to that

he didn't say shit about anything being passive he said "flexes aura" that is an action

so his aura existing does make the effect, he has to actually "flex it"? still, can't see reference to this in the profiles still

And Goku Go to the kill against this, yeah.

proof? he is very well acostumed against weird looking people

And Sans is evil anyway, so Goku would Go for the kill.

Sans is not evil tho

don't look too much into it, it was supposed to be a joke, i shouldn't practice it more

If goku senses that sans is fodder then he'll throw a blast at him and boom.

goku instantly kill people that are fodder to him? he didn't do that against the robbers that tried to rob him

Also, Why would ki destroying weaker attacks needs to be accepted?

not the ki, the ki that is not launched as an attack but only as the aura around them, that needs

it's literally just an energy feat that anynone with higher AP can do...

they can project the ki in an offenssive manner through it yeah, but it doesn't do that passively with the aura alone

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

yeah.......i said in reference to that

Explain how KARMA is gonna come into effect if an attack is stopped by a barrier

and don't even say dura neg again because I've pointed out for the life of me that the dura neg is that KARMA is applied when the attack hits a person

 

[Fezzih_007]

Sans is not evil tho

Well, he did say he would kill Frisk If he din't make that promise to Toriel, so i think he is evil because of that.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Well, he did say he would kill Frisk If he din't make that promise to Toriel, so i think he is evil because of that.

does not necessarily mean evil

 

[TheGreatBanana]

yeah.......i said in reference to that


so his aura existing does make the effect, he has to actually "flex it"? still, can't see reference to this in the profiles still


proof? he is very well acostumed against weird looking people


Sans is not evil tho

don't look too much into it, it was supposed to be a joke, i shouldn't practice it more


goku instantly kill people that are fodder to him? he didn't do against the robbers that tried to rob him


not the ki, the ki that is not launched as an attack but only as the aura around them, that needs


they can project the ki in an offenssive manner through it yeah, but it doesn't do that passively with the aura alone

Uh...when did i say its a passive thing? I'm pretty sure i said goku needs to just flex his ki. Not that it's passive.

 

[Omegabronic]

Uh...when did i say its a passive thing? I'm pretty sure i said goku needs to just flex his ki. Not that it's passive.

From the way some people said i thought that it is a passive thing witg the auras, pardon me on that part then

Explain how KARMA is gonna come into effect if an attack is stopped by a barrier

and don't even say dura neg again because I've pointed out for the life of me that the dura neg is that KARMA is applied when the attack hits a person

Yeah.....it would apply to tge barrier itself, that is what i said

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Goku is fighting with the intent to kill.

 

[Fezzih_007]

does not necessarily mean evil

In my perspective, It does.

Killing a random child.

 

[Dragonite007]

Goku is fighting with the intent to kill.

"State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle."

 

[Omegabronic]

In my perspective, It does.

Killing a random child.

A child that has they kay to free his entire race and that he knows could be the anomaly that is making his life have no meaning since it resets everything all the time

 

[Dragonite007]

You all are arguing about Sans and 2-C DB

When we can do Goku vs Kris

 

[Omegabronic]

You all are arguing about Sans and 2-C DB

When we can do Goku vs Kris

......i foresee danger approaching

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

You all are arguing about Sans and 2-C DB

When we can do Goku vs Kris

How about db vs a new verse? Or someone tier 2 as well

 

[Dragonite007]

How about db vs a new verse? Or someone tier 2 as well

Goku vs Tanjiro

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle."

In character, when attempting to kill, Goku does not hold back.

 

[Dragonite007]

In character, when attempting to kill, Goku does not hold back.

attempting to win =/= attempting to kill

 

[CryoTheMayo]

no it isn't, enforcing it into other people is what he does in the game

I don't even need to waste my time on anything else. Prove that Sans can enforce Undertale rules onto other characters from other verses.

 

[Fezzih_007]

A child that has they kay to free his entire race

Which he don't particually care in doing so

and that he knows could be the anomaly that is making his life have no meaning since it resets everything all the time

He just met them, how he would know that?

Stillz the justification don't mean much, because is Sans willing to kill a child, that still evil.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

attempting to win =/= attempting to kill

Yakon.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I don't even need to waste my time on anything else. Prove that Sans can enforce Undertale rules onto other characters from other verses.

He can't, he can still use the hax he uses to affect the battle system in UT in other versers, but he don't enforce the Undertale rules.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

attempting to win =/= attempting to kill

Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions.

When Goku has “fought” in Super it’s usually winning the fight by making them give up this is how you win with SBA in character when he has to actually beat them opponent like in the Buu Saga:

Yakon

 

[CryoTheMayo]

He can't, he can still use the hax he uses to affect the battle system in UT in other versers, but he don't enforce the Undertale rules.

This sounds incredibly confusing for practical use. How does his 'limited Law Manipulation' hax apply to other verses if other verses don't even adhere to the laws that Sans follows? So if Sans can't enforce those laws onto others, he's the only one following them. His ability to ignore (some of) the laws of his own verse are irrelevant to other verses.

Frankly I don't see how that has any practical use against a Dragon Ball character.

 

[Omegabronic]

Which he don't particually care in doing so

if it wasn't for the same kid reseting time all the time, he would, which gives even more of a reasoning

besides, someone keeping a promise to a person they didn't even knew the name seens like a good person's quality to me, you can't put people at "good and bad" like it is a duality

He just met them, how he would know that?

because of the reports and studies he did, which is how he knows about resets in the first place

Stillz the justification don't mean much, because is Sans willing to kill a child, that still evil.

is Asgore evil? Is Undyne evil? Is Mettaton Evil? is every monster we ever fight in Undertale evil?

I don't even need to waste my time on anything else. Prove that Sans can enforce Undertale rules onto other characters from other verses.

he has shown to enforce the laws of how fighting works on someone else, if there is no reason or statement for it to be limited to his own universe, then we won't assume that it is

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

he has shown to enforce the laws of how fighting works on someone else, if there is no reason or statement for it to be limited to his own universe, then we won't assume that it is

NLF

 

[CryoTheMayo]

he has shown to enforce the laws of how fighting works on someone else, if there is no reason or statement for it to be limited to his own universe, then we won't assume that it is

Within the confines of Undertale game mechanics within the Undertale verse. And even there he didn't make or enforce the battle system in Undertale. He has just shown a (limited) ability to ignore some of the rules within that system.

Where is it stated that Sans has the power to make other people follow the laws of his verse?

 

[Omegabronic]

NLF

there is limits, he can't manipulate all laws, he can manipulate the laws in the way that he has shown to manipulate as the profile notes, aka since it has a limitation, it can't be NLF

 

[CryoTheMayo]

there is limits, he can't manipulate all laws, he can manipulate the laws in the way that he has shown to manipulate as the profile notes, aka since it has a limitation, it can't be NLF

Incredible. So where in his profile does it state that he can make other characters follow this system that he doesn't even have full control over?

 

[Omegabronic]

Within the confines of Undertale game mechanics within the Undertale verse.

are the laws in Undertale's reality fundamentatly different then the laws in any other verse?

And even there he didn't make or enforce the battle system in Undertale. He has just shown a (limited) ability to ignore some of the rules within that system.

he did tho, hence why Frisk/Chara could also abuse that to attack him in the last blow of the fight

Where is it stated that Sans has the power to make other people follow the laws of his verse?

they are not following the laws of his verse, they are following the laws/rules he imposed to Frisk in their battle

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

are the laws in Undertale's reality fundamentatly different then the laws in any other verse?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe the turn-based battle system?

 

[Dragonite007]

The match already was removed from the profiles, why you are discussing about this?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

The match already was removed from the profiles, why you are discussing about this?

This is currently a discussion about Sans' limited law hax

 

[CryoTheMayo]

are the laws in Undertale's reality fundamentatly different then the laws in any other verse?

Given that Dragon Ball isn't a video game and doesn't operate on a turn-based system...yes. I would say given the complete and utter lack of such 'Laws' that Dragon Ball (and every other verse that doesn't adhere to a turn-based game system) is fundamentally different.

he did tho, hence why Frisk/Chara could also abuse that to attack him in the last blow of the fight

He didn't make the system. Nor did he enforce the laws in that fight. He chose to not continue his turn, by adhering to the logic of the system. He didn't make that up. YOU can do that whenever you want in the game. It's 'game logic'.

they are not following the laws of his verse, they are following the laws/rules he imposed to Frisk in their battle

Where is it stated that Sans 'imposed' the laws onto them.