Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Sir_Marvulous]

Actually I think GT can straight up just get revised with this, not much work has to be done for that specifically

All we'd have to do is add infinite speed to the five profiles that scale

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Bruh if we make an entirely new thread we have to wait 48 hours and Planack said the scaling was pretty straight forward we just have to change the tiers and Link my blog

But wouldn't that just be the 2-C of the universe?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Bruh if we make an entirely new thread we have to wait 48 hours and Planack said the scaling was pretty straight forward we just have to change the tiers and Link my blog

^^^
Let's NOT make a new thread. Our blogs use accepted scans from the threads that upgraded the Dragon Ball cosmology, so we have literally no reason to wait another 48 hours

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Actually I think GT can straight up just get revised with this, not much work has to be done for that specifically

All we'd have to do is add infinite speed to the five profiles that scale

Worse

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

^^^
Let's NOT make a new thread. Our blogs use accepted scans from the threads that upgraded the Dragon Ball cosmology, so we have literally no reason to wait another 48 hours

Exactly

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

GT has a measly 5 profiles that scale to this. We don't need to be elaborate about how we revise that set of profiles

 

[Omegabronic]

Actually I think GT can straight up just get revised with this, not much work has to be done for that specifically

All we'd have to do is add infinite speed to the five profiles that scale

Well not really, for the same reasons super needed a scaling blog, so would the toei continuity, it doesn't seem complicated tho, just change the calc from goku and paikuhan to infinite and put the multipliers, seems simole enough

 

[Omegabronic]

GT has a measly 5 profiles that scale to this. We don't need to be elaborate about how we revise that set of profiles

You are forgeting the toei continuity, the buu saga of it gets all affected by the infinite universe thing in speed

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

There's still the manga blog and speed on another blog

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Well don't ask me to do it because I don't know Toei scaling that elaborately

 

[Omegabronic]

There's still the manga blog and speed on another blog

No need, they don't have scaling to the infinite speed feat in the manga

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

No need, they don't have scaling to the infinite speed feat in the manga

The super manga and not dbz manga

 

[Omegabronic]

The super manga and not dbz manga

Yeah, that is what i said

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Well for Toie, The ones that have infinite speed and high 3-A/2-C feats are: Pikkon, goku(Z, movie and gt), Gogeta(movie amd gt), Buus, Broly, Syn/Omega shenron, vegito(?), janemba, pan(gt). Those are the ones at the top of my head for now

 

[Omegabronic]

Well for Toie, The ones that have infinite speed and high 3-A/2-C feats are: Pikkon, goku(Z, movie and gt), Gogeta(movie amd gt), Buus, Broly, Syn/Omega shenron, vegito(?), janemba, pan(gt). Those are the ones at the top of my head for now

everyone in the buu saga has infinite speed, and above baseline

 

[TheGreatBanana]

everyone in the buu saga has infinite speed, and above baseline

Well yeah, since they scale off base goku and pikkon. I just listed the characters with the feats.

 

[Padaruyos]

Infinite Speed =< Base Goku <(50x) SS Goku < SS2 Goku < Fat Buu < SS3 Goku < Super Buu =< SS3 Gotenks < Ultimate Gohan < Buutenks < Buuhan < Kid Buu = SS3 Goku (Post Vegito) < General Rilldo < Baby < Base GT Goten <(50x) SS GT Goten < Base GT Gohan <(50x) SS GT Gohan < Base GT Goku <(50x) SS GT Goku < SS2 GT Goku < SS3 GT Goku < Baby Vegeta < Super Baby Vegeta < Super Baby Vegeta 2 < Golden Oozaru GT Goku < Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta < SS4 GT Goku < SFPSS4 GT Goku.

So bare minimum that's 6.250.000x over Baseline Infinite speed, along with a long ass scaling chain that isn't even complete yet for SFPSS4 GT Goku.

 

[AguilaR202]

Thoughts on this video?

Infinite Speed =< Base Goku <(50x) SS Goku < SS2 Goku < Fat Buu < SS3 Goku < Super Buu =< SS3 Gotenks < Ultimate Gohan < Buutenks < Buuhan < Kid Buu = SS3 Goku (Post Vegito) < General Rilldo < Baby < Base GT Goten <(50x) SS GT Goten < Base GT Gohan <(50x) SS GT Gohan < Base GT Goku <(50x) SS GT Goku < SS2 GT Goku < SS3 GT Goku < Baby Vegeta < Super Baby Vegeta < Super Baby Vegeta 2 < Golden Oozaru GT Goku < Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta < SS4 GT Goku < SFPSS4 GT Goku.

So bare minimum that's 6.250.000x over Baseline Infinite speed, along with a long ass scaling chain that isn't even complete yet for SFPSS4 GT Goku.

End of shadow Dragon Arc base Goku is an additional 50x at least as his base form was taking in on the power of 3 super saiyans on Majuubs level at the very least.

Could be another 50x considering how Majuub and the Saiyans performed against Super 17, with Oob being surprised that base Gohans Kamehameha couldn’t do anything, meaning he expected his KHH to be above his own level of power which had previously failed to damage super 17.

 

[TiltedFN]

Hey sir marvulous, i have a better translation for the scan with the guru picture on it, rather than infinitely expanding, here is a better translation. Heres the RAW: 無限に広がる宇宙を、それぞれの界王達が管理をしているおもに方角によって決められ、界王が管理している場所は大界王が統括して監督し、さらに東西南北の界王神が宇宙を管理.最終的に大界王神が全世界を監督していることになっている. Now here's the translation: Illumination of infinite spacetime and galaxies tens of thousands of light years... Billions of light years... Beyond the stars where not even light can reach... unknown aliens... unimaginable monsters... myriad inhabitants... i think it would be better to update it with this translation. Another translation: Between the infinite expanse and the illumination of galaxies, tens of thousands of light-years... hundreds of millions of light-years... there are countless unimaginable monsters of unknown aliens on the other side of the stars that cannot even be traced by light.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Guys, I think you are also forgetting about Xenoverse, they should also get upgraded to Infinite speed, and their results would be far greater than Canon DB, given the fact they are like a composite version of DB made of GT/Toei and Super

 

[TiltedFN]

which ever interpretation you want to go with tbh, just whichever is the most consistent,

 

[TiltedFN]

Guys, I think you are also forgetting about Xenoverse, they should also get upgraded to Infinite speed, and their results would be far greater than Canon DB, given the fact they are like a composite version of DB made of GT/Toei and Super

could we potentially get 5d xenoverse/heroes with this cosmology upgrade?

 

[Padaruyos]

I thought Heroes is already using Toei cosmology from the beginning.

 

[TiltedFN]

i personally think the last translation makes the most sense.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

I thought Heroes is already using Toei cosmology from the beginning.

They use it.
Both Xenoverse and Heroes

 

[Padaruyos]

Off-topic. But how far high into 5-B Saiyan Saga Vegeta is?

 

[Padaruyos]

could we potentially get 5d xenoverse/heroes with this cosmology upgrade?

I doubt it, since cosmology is the same from Toei since the beginning. As for speed, anyone from DBH already has Immeasurable, so anyone that doesn't will get Infinite I think.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Off-topic. But how far high into 5-B Saiyan Saga Vegeta is?

He's baseline

 

[Padaruyos]

Oh. Well. I just made a Saiyan Saga Vegeta vs Boruto Era Gaara thread a few hours ago. Genuinely thought Vegeta is above baseline 5-B

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

could we potentially get 5d xenoverse/heroes with this cosmology upgrade?

No bro, go create a rule about DBH, wait for us to have enough proof.

 

[BlastX]

Oh. Well. I just made a Saiyan Saga Vegeta vs Boruto Era Gaara thread a few hours ago. Genuinely thought Vegeta is above baseline 5-B

Dude, Vegeta is where they get their 5-B rating.

You can use Great Ape Vegeta, but for that the Oozaru CRT I made should be accepted.

 

[Padaruyos]

Does that mean Gaara AP stomps? I'll try to find out how high Gaara's sand scales.

 

[Padaruyos]

Gaara is 150ish ZT. Vegeta if baseline scales to 60 ZT. Not an AP stomp I suppose, but, Gaara's sand would basically be about as powerful as a theoretical Kaioken X7.5 Saiyan Saga Goku.

 

[GroundX1]

No need, they don't have scaling to the infinite speed feat in the manga

Manga will still be 2-C and Infinite Speed, I think a Blog would still be necessary, the one above used 3 gods of destruction facing each other, right? In the manga everyone faces each other, Jiren is scaled above Belmont who almost killed some gods in the fight, this needs to be analyzed

 

[GroundX1]

And the mention of Kid Buu being able to destroy the Universe in the Manga?

 

[SSJGeminiJJ]

I think that just makes more sense as high 3-A AP for Buu rather than infinite speed. Pretty sure having one isn’t mutually inclusive with the other. Inf speed ratings should start at the BoG anime (idk when or if for the DBS manga).

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I think that just makes more sense as high 3-A AP for Buu rather than infinite speed. Pretty sure having one isn’t mutually inclusive with the other. Inf speed ratings should start at the BoG anime (idk when or if for the DBS manga).

I agree

 

[Padaruyos]

Buu being able to destroy the universe, which is Infinite in size. Would either require infinite speed or high 3-A AP. Not necessarily both, and there's no proof of infinite speed Manga buu saga yet. So agree.

 

[Omegabronic]

Manga will still be 2-C and Infinite Speed, I think a Blog would still be necessary, the one above used 3 gods of destruction facing each other, right? In the manga everyone faces each other, Jiren is scaled above Belmont who almost killed some gods in the fight, this needs to be analyzed

2-C? Yes, infinite speed? No, there is no infinite speed feat that they scale

 

[GroundX1]

Buu being able to destroy the universe, which is Infinite in size. Would either require infinite speed or high 3-A AP. Not necessarily both, and there's no proof of infinite speed Manga buu saga yet. So agree.

Genki Dama didn't have all the energy of the other world?