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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Adem_Warlock69 said:
Piccolo did think 4th Zenkai Vegeta could blow up Namek,
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Namek has to have similar gravity to earth otherwise how the hell is bulma alive on there
 
Chariot190 said:
I'd pick a panel we actually see all 3 suns in, that way we know at least one of them is parallel or in the foreground.
Picking a panel with only 1-2 suns means both could be in the background, and as such, treating it like they're both at the same dept won't work.
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Something like this?

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Also Crim wanted me to ask if it needed angsizing (he’s the one who pixel scaled this)
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Piccolo did think 4th Zenkai Vegeta could blow up Namek,
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That literally costed 100% of Vegeta's energy, drained that mf dry. At best, it's a one off attack, the only issue is that mf Frieza deflecting it with a ******* kick, but it looks like he actually put in the effort at least, bro was like ah shit, but he's also sandbagging still so uh oh 🗿
what if piccolo doesnt know, kinda weird that 50% Frieza, even while holding back, did less than baby fodder vegeta, because he thought tanking it would hurt like a bitch, also piccolo did say "try". well we'll cross this bridge when we get there ig, maybe worth something idk
 
TheGodOfICE777 said:
Something like this?

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Also Crim wanted me to ask if it needed angsizing (he’s the one who pixel scaled this)
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Is that bottom one meant to be a sun?
I can't stress enough all 3 need to be on panel, and from that, pick the biggest one as that'd be, by process of elimination, the sun facing the front side.

Although I have noticed, that the 3 suns are nearly always drawn in the same shape, two close together, one farther back, like a long triangle, the angle might change, bu the actual formation is almost always the same.

If that isn't a sun, I'd go with this panel, or the SB panel, tho the latter has the suns drawn tiny compared to most shots so it'd inflate it despite being the widest panel, would recommend it only as a last resort if no panel can be used.
omegabronic said:
Now, why did Freeza seemed concerned about the planet blowing up?
Sub-planet Freeza GG
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i mean if that shit is as big as a star, and he had to tank his own attack, i mean yeah it'd prob hurt. he even says at 100%, if he's caught in the blast he'd at least lose even more strength
 
Chariot190 said:
Is that bottom one meant to be a sun?
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it could also be the colored manga being weird tbf, it's not exactly the most accurate

the farther one in the panel Ice showed seems to be the same as the one in the original calc, and the anime depicts it as being a sun (manga | anime), it'd probably be better to either use that one and angsize with the new panel or use the page you sent.
 
StekFence said:
Couldn’t the others just be reallly far away as opposed to being smaller?
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Exactly, the biggest drawn one would likely be the sun in the foreground, the front side of the planet, and the smaller one's would be the suns further back. This is also the safest assumption too, instead of assuming the bigger suns actually just giga huge suns and in the back and a super tiny sun is the foreground one.

This is also why all 3 must be on panel, if only 1-2 drawn, we don't know if either in the foreground, they could both be behind the planet, but if all 3 are drawn, one must be in front.
 
Chariot190 said:
Exactly, the biggest drawn one would likely be the sun in the foreground, the front side of the planet, and the smaller one's would be the suns further back. This is also the safest assumption too, instead of assuming the bigger suns actually just giga huge suns and in the back and a super tiny sun is the foreground one.

This is also why all 3 must be on panel, if only 1-2 drawn, we don't know if either in the foreground, they could both be behind the planet, but if all 3 are drawn, one must be in front.
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how's this?
 
Chariot190 said:
He held back, but that doesnt mean if he didnt the planet would have instantly popped either. I just went through the arc, the best we got is Goku saying if Frieza wanted, he could have attacked the planet again and destroyed it, but that was after it had aready been destabilized by the core shit.
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Even Vegeta had enough power to pop the planet,
Chariot190 said:
that would make them sublight dog, SF is a lightspeed attack
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I mean, it's as fast as the user's combat speed
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Piccolo did think 4th Zenkai Vegeta could blow up Namek,
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Ninja'd

Chariot190 said:
Exactly, the biggest drawn one would likely be the sun in the foreground, the front side of the planet, and the smaller one's would be the suns further back. This is also the safest assumption too, instead of assuming the bigger suns actually just giga huge suns and in the back and a super tiny sun is the foreground one.

This is also why all 3 must be on panel, if only 1-2 drawn, we don't know if either in the foreground, they could both be behind the planet, but if all 3 are drawn, one must be in front.
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What of the scan where Gohan saves Vegeta from recoome? All three suns are shown right?
 
So all three sun must be in the panel.
Hmm 🤔.
I will try to find them
 
Is it necessary for the planet to be fully displayed on the panel?
Or some of the planet with all three sins?
 
For the love of God I beg you to fix the Toeiverse profiles, because some of the scale from Broly and some do not.

Reason? This CRT:

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Fixing the inconsistencies of Dragon Ball Games

There is a lot of stuff that is just weird for this Wiki on these profiles. Demigra and Chronoa shouldn't have Environmental Destruction Let's see again why Demigra has that rating in the 1st place: far higher through Environmental Destruction (From destroying the Time Vault, a place where...
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Nullflowerblush said:
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Planet curvature based off of the size of the explosion, perhaps? 💀
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Would be horizon based on elevation. The curvature wouldn't be that of the planet's, at least, normally, we'd assume that especially with the islands being drawn that big, when they ain't even visible from orbit in literally any panel, but, they do say it warped the planet so maybe, it wouldn't be as high as you think tho, 5-A max, and not even that high given no GBE fuckery is involved. Less than what they are right now.
Jaakor48 said:
Not this one, the one where the explosion is seen from the planet's view

Edit: This one
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Yes, but that's also by far the most extreme shot, most shots the suns drawn about 1/5th the size, not 1/20th, case and point, we've got 3 rough calcs all in the same ballpark.
 
I think its pretty clear that Freeza held back too much:

Chapter: 320 (DBZ 126), P9.2

Freeza: "Chih…! Did I suppress my power too much…?!"
Goku: "It's because you were afraid of getting caught up in the planet's explosion yourself…You screwed up. Though thanks to that, I survived…"


Chapter: 320 (DBZ 126), P10.1-4

Freeza: "Though we've avoided having the planet instantly explode, its core has been destroyed…Do you know what that means? Even if left alone, after 5 minutes this time there will definitely be a huge explosion, and Planet Namek will become space dust…"
 
ScalingRandomVerse said:
How else you do it, for other series?
(If there is no mention of size.)
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No, I am simply referring to how difficult Namek's size and position in its ternary star system is making it difficult to find

Chariot190 said:
Yes, but that's also by far the most extreme shot, most shots the suns drawn about 1/5th the size, not 1/20th, case and point, we've got 3 rough calcs all in the same ballpark.
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But namek should, at minimum, be larger than the suns around it, right? Or is there a chance it's actually smaller?
 
I tried to find the kanzebann edition of dragon ball in which the sun were sorta drawn weird. It's seem to be the case in that too.
 
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Jaakor48 said:
But namek should, at minimum, be larger than the suns around it, right? Or is there a chance it's actually smaller?
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We've already went through this, it's not possible, at least one must be in front, or parallel with it.
ScalingRandomVerse said:
I tried to find the kanzebann edition of dragon ball in which the sun were sorta drawn weird. It's seem to be the case in that too.
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Dead link.
 
ScalingRandomVerse said:
I tried to find the kanzebann edition of dragon ball in which the sun were sorta drawn weird. It's seem to be the case in that too.
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That's to be expected, they primarily use black/red inking due to cost, usually only one is done in the proper color, then it's toned back, and sometimes not even one,



Case and point, this ch, yellow Trunks into bootleg SSJG.
 
StrymULTRA said:
For the love of God I beg you to fix the Toeiverse profiles, because some of the scale from Broly and some do not.
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No actual Toei Anime character scales to Broly, only game (Since they have the everything is canon thing) and Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans characters (Broly is mentioned) scale to Broly.
 
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