Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[LuffyRuffy46307]

We haven't had a fully Toriyama script for a while. Toriyama provides notes and for the Manga he edits Toyotaro's art and dialogue where appropriate.

We still have a lot of his notes for the future left so Toriyama's presence will remain. It'll just be reduced due to his unfortunate demise.

Akira Toriyama, who wrote the entire manga script for Toyotaro, Bro

In his interviews included in the series’ first, second, and fourth tankōbon, Toyotarō discusses the rough process of creating the manga series for the initial, TV-adjacent story arcs. To begin, Toriyama provides a written plot of the general story that Toyotarō then expands upon, adding in his own ideas and events between Toriyama’s established main story elements. The story is then broken out into chapters and Toyotarō draws a rough draft of that month’s chapter, and via his editor, submits it to Toriyama for review and comment. Toyotarō then draws and inks the final draft based on any of the notes or corrections provided. This process continued to evolve as the series continued onward into its post-television, original story arcs, with Toriyama notably contributing an outline for the story of the “Galactic Patrol Prisoner” arc.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

as long as it is being published by the owners of the IP, it will be the same canon following the story being told

Omega, could you please stop answering me?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Omega, could you please stop answering me?

lol

 

[Huesito88]

Omega, could you please stop answering me?

He has to live up to his name your the Alpha he's the Omega (the first and the last)

 

[Tyranno223]

Akira Toriyama, who wrote the entire manga script for Toyotaro, Bro

Yes, Toriyama has his notes
Toyotaro then makes a draft
Toriyama then edits it.
That has always been the way.

Points 1 and 2 remain. Point 3 is lost to us.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

That'd break the internet

Something that Gear 5 wouldnt lol

 

[Huesito88]

Something that Gear 5 wouldnt lol

If Oda writes it maybe we can get toonforce Goku again?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

He has to live up to his name your the Alpha he's the Omega (the first and the last)

AND?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

If Oda writes it maybe we can get toonforce Goku again?

Honestly, i want that Daima Goku get the Toonforce, not Adult Goku

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

He has to live up to his name your the Alpha he's the Omega (the first and the last)

Omega is Luffy's boogeyman, no cap. Everywhere he goes, Omega's in the shadows and waiting to terrorize Luffy with whatever schemes and tricks he has brewing in his malicious mind...I'd pay to see that become sort of comedy show

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Oda is very busy with One piece, preparing for the final arc, doubt he has time for Dragon Ball.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

There is no more Akira script, now the script will be from the Dragon Ball company that created it, now we no longer have a solid roadmap, so maybe the Dragon Ball Super manga won't come back

For example, the manga, the script was worked on by Akira, but now they will have to take over the script and the manga, another person, then we will have another canon

As far as I know, Toriyama only wrote the entire script in specific cases (Broly from what I remember and Daima).

In the manga, I thought that Toyoraro's routine was to draft the manga alone and show it to Toriyama so he could say "ok" and Toyotaro would continue.

Imagine if Oda or Kishimoto or Kubo started writing the new DBS.

Kishimoto and Kubo?

Speaking of which, I find it very funny how the Naruto fandom and beyond were super happy when it was said that Kishimoto would be more present in the Boruto manga.

I don't know why they thought the work would improve a lot, considering how Naruto developed and how Samurai 8 ended up cancelled.

as long as it is being published by the owners of the IP, it will be the same canon following the story being told

One thing that will change will be what we will consider canonical from now on, in the sense of external content.

For example in the crt for Kakarot to have canonical elements, a big focus in elaborating this was Akira's involvement in several things in the game, with the conclusion being:

This just further cements the point. We can take information from DBZ: Kakarot, as they are part of Toriyama's setting, much like we do with the anime and game interpretations of the cosmology.

How are we now going to consider whether new guides, games, etc. have canonical information?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Omega is Luffy's boogeyman, no cap. Everywhere he goes, Omega's in the shadows and waiting to terrorize Luffy with whatever schemes and tricks he has brewing in his malicious mind...I'd pay to see that become sort of comedy show

I'm not amused by your dull jokes

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

How are we now going to consider whether new guides, games, etc. have canonical information?

We consider everything canon (minus DBH of course)

 

[Killerdrone123]

Fake+miss info+Noooooo

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Fake+miss info+Noooooo

I wish it was, unfortunately, Goku is no longer soloing, not even his own son.

 

[Tipper17]

It's seems you are still young boy. The whole point of agenda wars is to limit your IQ and reading comprehension to 1/100 of its actual value and jump the gun to make stupid interpretation

OP Agenda Wars summed up

 

[Tipper17]

Imagine if Oda or Kishimoto or Kubo started writing the new DBS.

Nah no thank you
Kishi would be terrible
Oda busy with OP
Kubo doesn't fit DB style

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I dunno about any canon split. There WILL be a Hiatus (at least one month, but it was worded as indefinite, so potentially much longer), but I saw nothing about anything interfering with the canon.

Well the most we can do now is to simply wait for more information to come out from Shueisha and CC Tokyo in regards to Dragon Ball's future now that Toriyama is no longer with us, but there are two possible routes that I see Dragon Ball as a franchise going down after Daima comes out in the fall:

Either the anime and the manga could become more closely intertwined with one another, starting off with Super's anime continuing and adapting Moro and Granolah so that whatever the next arc for Super is they can remain consistent with both continuities. Or, and this is what I see happening the most, Toyotaro ends up being the author of Super from now on and CC Tokyo makes a brand new anime story that is not apart of Super and possibly even being completely original.

Mind you this all my speculation on the matter, but it's fun to think about you know?

 

[Nierre]

too much Kishimoto slander in this thread for my liking

 

[Omegabronic]

too much Kishimoto slander in this thread for my liking

people who like 1 must hate the other, these my friends, are the old everlasting laws of the internet

 

[Omegabronic]

Omega, could you please stop answering me?

No

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

too much Kishimoto slander in this thread for my liking

If Kishimoto takes over Dragon Ball the first thing he will do is kill Goku ( so when he returned to the Boruto manga and killed Kurama and gouged out Sasuke's eyes )

We would literally all have dead characters if he took over, i wanted the Takao Koyama assume ( he is a great friend of Akira and has already written the script for Dragon Ball Z and Kai )

 

[Nierre]

If Kishimoto takes over Dragon Ball the first thing he will do is kill Goku

wouldn't be the first time he's died

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

wouldn't be the first time he's died

This time it would be definitive, Kishimoto loves killing characters, i'm still obsessed with Kurama to this day.

 

[Nierre]

i'm still obsessed with Kurama to this day.

if you've seen the leaks for the next chapter, he might come back.. the antagonists sensed Kurama in his daughter

 

[Fezzih_007]

I don't think Kishi would kill Goku, like i doubt people would let that happen.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

if you've seen the leaks for the next chapter, he might come back.. the antagonists sensed Kurama in his daughter

I remember it having great power in it, but is it real???? Man if he does that i will revere the creator of Naruto a thousand times.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Broly will solo Gohan only in presence

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Broly showing Gohan the potential of a true Legendary Super Saiyan

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Broly showing Gohan the potential of a true Legendary Super Saiyan

Man, this is going to give you nostalgia, see Broly dragging Gohan's face on the floor and almost breaking your arms

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Man, this is going to give you nostalgia, see Broly dragging Gohan's face on the floor and almost breaking your arms

Bro really got mad after seeing Gohan whopping Goku´s ass

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Bro really got mad after seeing Gohan whopping Goku´s ass

Broly loves Goku, i think Broly is going to beat up Gohan and you ?

 

[Roun12]

Oh YUH, Broly is fully in control and about to go IN!

 

[Quantu]

Whoever is updating renders on the DB profiles is a legend

 

[Tipper17]

Broly loves Goku, i think Broly is going to beat up Gohan and you ?

Put the copium down

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Some scans are out in Japanese, i believe we already have the chapter translated by monday

 

[BlackeJan]

This is... quite the take.

How ya feel about it?

 

[BlackeJan]

Also just clicked to me but current Goku in DBS manga current full power is CUI meaning that he could had possibly learned to add his emotions with it