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Yeah, they need Dragon ball super hero keysManga needs an upgrade thread
Goku with superior instinct is so fast, his speed is able to teleport behind Gohan
I saw this, Gohan was so cool that when he reached high speeds he was able to create lightning around him.Only until Gohan's rage boosted him up until he outpaced the speed of Ultra Instinct.
Gohan has the lightning around him constantly, now. Such as when he first kicked Ultra Instinct Goku in the first page.I saw this, Gohan was so cool that when he reached high speeds he was able to create lightning around him.
https://ragnarokscanlation.net/ it isn't official but good enoughCan we make a mang Gohan profile after this chapter comes out officially
Yes, this effect is very beautifulGohan has the lightning around him constantly, now. Such as when he first kicked Ultra Instinct Goku in the first page.
Gohan says it's "different" not stronger, but he doesn't get any more specific than that, so unclear.
That said, I imagine that it's a Controlled version of his INITIAL Super Saiyan from the Broly movie, not his Legendary Super Saiyan form.
Because, as much as I hate to say it, Legendary Super Saiyan doens't exist in modern canon as an actual official form. Kale's is called SSJ (Berserk), Broly's is Super Saiyan (Full Power). Hell, we're even talking now about how Ikari seems to kinda sorta be involved in his version of SSJ. And unlike Z Broly, who could transform and moderate his forms at will (See Second Coming, the SSJ Form he used when he was given a Control Crown, etc.), these new generation LSSJs can't transform at will and have none of the traits the original one had outside of green hair (which wasn't even intended in DBS Broly and actually added in after, DBS Broly was just going to have an abnormally strong SSJ form, which you can see in basically every colored page of the DBS Manga with SSJ Broly in it-Yellow hair instead of just green), and an ever evolving power.
It's very likely, to me, that the term LSSJ was phased out in favor of maintaining the allure of Goku becoming the Legend on Namek, and Broly as some freak of nature (fitting his new Tarzan like backstory), that has nothing at all to do with the Mythos of the Saiyans. ESPECIALLY when you realize that apparently the Original Super Saiyan (Yamoshi) then became a wandering Spirit to find the Super Saiyan God (Goku). Meaning Greenie doesn't exist in any of the "Super" Saiyan Tales and Folklore compared to Toei/GT.
Looked like normal ssj to me not the green versionWas Broly's SSJ yellow or green? I'm not sure about the manga, especially since they don't differentiate SSJ from Broly to others (there's no such thing as Legendary SSJ, just SSJ)
Yes, he can restore universes, this ins´t Low 1-CWhy can't Super Shenron manipulate reality on a 1-C scale? In the anime it is mentioned that he can bring back all the Universes, and we already know that Zeno can erase a timeline completely, while Super Shenron is capable of restoring all 12 Universes,
No limits fallacyit is said by Zeno that his potential for manipulating reality there is no limit to what he can do.
The timeline is made up of these 12 Universes, if he manages to restore these 12 Universes, he's restoring a timeline.Yes, he can restore universes, this ins´t Low 1-C
No, it's not, it's said several times in the anime and mangá, it would only be fallacious if there were a contradiction.No limits fallacy
It was considered SSJ Full Power, in these (1) promos (2). This fact is doubled down on in their games, like Dragon Ball Legends, (something continued in XV2 and Dokkan {as an active skill}), their action figures, (directly sourced by Bandai as “Bandai Hobby”), it’s even outright labeled such by Shintani in standard conversation. It’s not called LSSJ by anyone but the audience and those who have the meta contextual knowledge that it’s LSSJ (green hair, big muscles, unlimited power), with a new, worse name.
No? He is just restoring the normal universes, not the higher time dimension that encompass themThe timeline is made up of these 12 Universes, if he manages to restore these 12 Universes, he's restoring a timeline.
That´s not how a fallacy works, Super Shenron was stated to "not have limits" and, according to our fallacies page:No, it's not, it's said several times in the book, it would only be fallacious if there were a contradiction.
He is quoted as being able to restore everything at once, there is not even a limit for himNo? He is just restoring the normal universes, not the higher time dimension that encompass them
Fallacies being cited several times in the work?That´s not how a fallacy works, Super Shenron was stated to "not have limits" and, according to our fallacies page:
"No limits Fallacy is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits, then it has none"
Scan?He is quoted as being able to restore everything at once, there is not even a limit for him
No, this one of the few cases, don´t try to make yourself the victimFallacies being cited several times in the work?
Full Power Super Saiyan*, I never denied the fact that Broly’s green haired form is called Full Power Super Saiyan, but I was merely sending a scan showing that it has been called “Legendary Super Saiyan” along “with Full Power Super Saiyan“ in promotional material. So that it was still valid to call the form either name.It was considered SSJ Full Power, in these (1) promos (2). This fact is doubled down on in their games, like Dragon Ball Legends, (something continued in XV2 and Dokkan {as an active skill}), their action figures, (directly sourced by Bandai as “Bandai Hobby”), it’s even outright labeled such by Shintani in standard conversation. It’s not called LSSJ by anyone but the audience and those who have the meta contextual knowledge that it’s LSSJ (green hair, big muscles, unlimited power), with a new, worse name.
Of course, that's when it's been confirmed several times that it's capable of fulfilling any wish in the multiverse, but let's limit it because it is.Scan?
No, this one of the few cases, don´t try to make yourself the victim
Of course, that's when it's been confirmed several times that it's capable of fulfilling any wish in the multiverse, but let's limit it because it is.
It's us affirmed by the existence that knows the multiverse best, Zeno
It's even confirmed by the Daishinkan
It is affirmed by the Zuno that he is omniscient and can fulfill any wish
How is that fallacious?
It's one of the few times where DB used a fallacy, don't try to victimize yourself²Now the work has become Greek mythology that loves hyperbole and fallacies
Of course, that's when it's been confirmed several times that it's capable of fulfilling any wish in the multiverse, but let's limit it because it is.
It's us affirmed by the existence that knows the multiverse best, Zeno
It's even confirmed by the Daishinkan
It is affirmed by the Zuno that he is omniscient and can fulfill any wish
How is that fallacious?
It's one of the few times where DB used a fallacy, don't try to victimize yourself²
2 if you really want to go to the boat about him "being able to do anything" then why stop at tier 1? make him tier 0 as he can do "anything"
Everything is already in the plans, I'm just heating up the grill.I think the argument Luffy's trying to make is that Super Shenron should scale to Zeno's level since even Zeno believes Super Shenron to be capable of granting any wish. It's not terrible reasoning for him to be Low 1-C. I'm not personally opposed to it, but you'll probably need something stronger than Zeno's word to get that through a CRT here.
Low-1c the **** I missedIs the current manga chapter enough to upgrade Gohan to low 1-C?
Yeah the panel where the shockwave of his punch destroyed a 6th dimensional structure should be enough.Is the current manga chapter enough to upgrade Gohan to low 1-C?
Shockwaves from Gohan punches destroyed my house.Low-1c the **** I missed
Over ultimate at least, depends on if you see ultimate Gohan being equal to sssb, he was around the gamma level as ultimateDoes that mean UI / Beast /UE are barely 50x multipliers over SSB ?
Do you have scans? I would like to use them in my CRTShockwaves from Gohan punches destroyed my house.
Sure, here is what happened to my house. Oh wait- I think it's more than just my house...Do you have scans? I would like to use them in my CRT
This is what my home city looks like after his punch.
HAHAHAHAHHAHASure, here is what happened to my house. Oh wait- I think it's more than just my house...
Well of course. I’m not saying it’s never been called LSSJ before—But the best we get is like, a few times in promos, and often not the more reputable ones. And yeah it is called Legendary Super Saiyan sometimes, but that’s not what it is in story. For example, in the (Subbed) DBS Anime, Vegeta {when talking about LSSJ Kale} suggests that it’s simply “A Saiyan’s True Form.” I don’t recall Broly ever being mentioned to potentially be the Legend in film, but even if it was by like, Vegeta (who as established on Namek has no idea what one actually is), he’d be wrong.Full Power Super Saiyan*, I never denied the fact that Broly’s green haired form is called Full Power Super Saiyan, but I was merely sending a scan showing that it has been called “Legendary Super Saiyan” along “with Full Power Super Saiyan“ in promotional material. So that it was still valid to call the form either name.
Either way, it’s stated that Broly and Kale could be the Legendary Super Saiyan in the movie and manga respectfully even if you don’t wanna call the form that.