Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Maxnumb231]

well this new leak seems like beerus was barely trying and have his hands on his back when he stomped vegeta. considering that vegeta was stronger than Omen in moro arc and still got ******* on, shows the scaling so far. Basing from the panels, it seems that vegeta beatdown was felt by goku and made him "sweat" after he trashed vegeta

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Vegeta somehow got stomped worse than last time based on spoilers, and he got 2 power-ups since then

Shame we never got Goku vs Beerus but I am srsly starting to doubt Jiren was any close to Beeru's power

It was technically never really stated that Jiren was stronger than Beerus in particular, just Belmod iirc.

 

[ZERO7772]

But Guys! Jiren is stronger than all of the GoDs I swear!
Here! I wrote two lines about it in a magazine!

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Exactly, just a line in a magazine meant to hype Jiren and the ToP. We weren't supposed to take it seriously in the first place since it wasn't stated or shown in the series proper. At least that's how I view it IMHO.

 

[Maxnumb231]

TOP characters went to fodder real quick... its crazy

 

[Ovrhide]

poor Jiren. Still one of my favorite characters.

UI Goku still seems superior In my books.

I guess this technique isn’t meant to have beerus above Goku, but have him on par with him. Still don’t know what the hell it is supposed to be.

 

[Maxnumb231]

we don't know the definitive scaling compared to goku but this fight alone based on feats puts him ATLEAST moro 73 level (although its been 2 months since moro arc and for sure vegeta even got stronger since)

 

[VinnyXD]

LMAO I remember how scared people were that this was going to happen because it would destroy their scaling. Shouldn't be surprised either the way Beerus is treated and DB handles it's power hierarchy

 

[ZERO7772]

No amount of low effort transformation will make you beat the shield known as "plot armor"

 

[VinnyXD]

So who's better at holding back Beerus or Frieza? Lol

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

So who's better at holding back Beerus or Frieza? Lol

Definitely Beerus lmao. The guy has always been using like -∞ of his power or something.

 

[ZERO7772]

Beerus doesn't need shitty forms and is always using below 0.1% ~

 

[YukaSama4]

Beerus is likely Moro 73 level with the new chapter, who was stated by Goku to be tougher than Jiren and Broly

 

[Maxnumb231]

yeah that too... he's atleast at that level based on the fight alone

 

[VinnyXD]

Beerus doesn't need shitty forms and is always using below 0.1% ~

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Beerus has something like Jiren has which isn't a form but more of a awaken power/state. Also Frieza forms are cool besides Gold.

 

[Maxnumb231]

Spoiler

="Apparently according to some translations from the leaks, it seems what beerus did to vegeta is just a small part although its confirmed its the technique of the gods. So basically the small part of this technique>>>> SSBE vegeta"

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Honestly, I'm really disappointed in this technique so far. I was hoping for some interesting hax or martial arts technique akin to UI, but it turns out it'll probably be another standard power up. Very disappointing for me.

 

[VinnyXD]

I mean even if we got a new move some how they would nerf it when it really matters. Example Moro and Vegeta

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

As if Vegeta's power ups don't get quickly nerfed? Lmao

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I'm not too surprised that this technique appears to be a power up of sorts, because I've learned from watching Super that honestly a lot of these forms are introduced to either hype up us fans or sell new toys and merchandise. Does it annoy me that there wasn't any creativity, especially since we know not a lot about how GoDs function? Yes, a 100% but I've learned about to expect to be disappointed

 

[ZERO7772]

New forms literally only exist to sell toys and add new Gacha cards to the game.
UI Omen was fine, but then Blanco form happens because without a different hair color we can't sell toys

Like, can anyone tell me what: SSB, SSR, SSRage, SSBerserk, SSBE, SSBKK amounted to the story or the characters?

 

[VinnyXD]

SSRage has to be one of the dumbest SS transformation. And I still think UI should just been a fighting style or technique

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

SSRage has to be one of the dumbest SS transformation. And I still think UI should just been a fighting style or technique

It is a technique technically, but for some reason it also powers up Goku significantly.

 

[ZERO7772]

Was there really a reason to introduce Complete UI all the way back in ToP now I think about it? There's really not much sense behind Goku training for 6 months just to achieve the incomplete version, yet in the ToP he pulls the full version on a whim.

It was already ridiculous that he got basically 2 new forms in one arc, couldn't they sit on their ass for this one?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Who knows? I can't pretend to know what makes Toei and Toyotaro tick, though I can imagine that they both are on the same brain pattern of thinking

 

[Vietthai96]

So no one gonna talk about the Discount Dragon that Granolah summoned??

 

[Dominodalek]

What is there really to say about it? It's just another wish-granting dragon.

 

[RippleW]

So no one gonna talk about the Discount Dragon that Granolah summoned??

it seems like you only need two dragon balls to wish for something
also granolahs wish is pretty mad if he becomes strongest like that

 

[ZERO7772]

Well obviously this dragon won't be able to grant his wish, he will probably have to hunt for the Super dragons balls if he wish to become the strongest in the universe probably.

 

[Tipper17]

New forms literally only exist to sell toys and add new Gacha cards to the game.
UI Omen was fine, but then Blanco form happens because without a different hair color we can't sell toys

Like, can anyone tell me what: SSB, SSR, SSRage, SSBerserk, SSBE, SSBKK amounted to the story or the characters?

To job to the new Big bad of the arc

 

[Tipper17]

Also why are folks acting Vegeta surpassed jiren or some shit

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Ngl the design of this new dragon looks kinda neat, makes him look like a sea serpant of some kind.

 

[VinnyXD]

It is a technique technically, but for some reason it also powers up Goku significantly.

And changes he's hair/eye color and attitude. Full on transformation

 

[Vietthai96]

i swear the new dragon look like a trial edition

And changes he's hair/eye color and attitude. Full on transformation

well it is tranformation, it grant him increase in stats, but at the same time, allow him to access UI technique

 

[ZERO7772]

Also why are folks acting Vegeta surpassed jiren or some shit

He possibly did

 

[Dragomer]

im probably not even going to look back at the ToP the same again.

Lol, Manga TOP was absolute garbage anyway.

 

[RippleW]

I think beerus new technique going just be hakai but different versions

 

[Ovrhide]

According to translations, Goku remembers beerus frightening strength after he hakai Vegeta.

this puts things differently. Seems like Broly will Still be scaling to beerus if that’s the case.
I just thought they were gonna pull a “beerus is that strong?” Type of thing.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

So it's like Beerus is using a variation of Hakai or another technique.
oh thank the lord, I thought I wwould've had to joke about Beerus being the real Zeno due to his power.

 

[Tipper17]

According to translations, Goku remembers beerus frightening strength after he hakai Vegeta.

this puts things differently. Seems like Broly and Vegito will Still be scaling to beerus if that’s the case.
I just thought they were gonna pull a “beerus is that strong?” Type of thing.

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