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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Kaido vs 23rd Budokai Z Fighters
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The 23rd Tournament Gets Raided By Beasts: Round 1

23rd Budokai But before the tournament starts, there are screams of terror. Heaven covering clouds form over Papaya Island, and lightning strikes the arena, destroying the stands. 3 Fighters circle one man. Jack The Drought. Queen The Plague. King The Conflagration. And in the center, a fighter...
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TiltedFN said:
It's still crazy how goku is able to literally predict hit while he's moving into the future. I feel like overlook that, how does it even work? Goku reacts to hit while he's moving through time??
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Not gonna lie sometimes people underestimate goku's skills like literally in kaido vs z warriors thread people were literally saying luffy skills were on par with goku and z warriors
 
Killerdrone123 said:
Not gonna lie sometimes people underestimate goku's skills like literally in kaido vs z warriors thread people were literally saying luffy skills were on par with goku and z warriors
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DBS skills aren't comparable to 23rd Budokai skills at all 💀.

DBS Goku has trained under a ******* angel.
 
TiltedFN said:
It's still crazy how goku is able to literally predict hit while he's moving into the future. I feel like overlook that, how does it even work? Goku reacts to hit while he's moving through time??
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Episode 43

King Kai
"The Kaio-Ken wasn't your only gamble. That fight with Hit, when you were predicting his moves, you weren't just guessing. You were forcing your way into the future for an advantage, weren't you?"

Goku
"Yeah, so?"

King Kai
"So you're pushing yourself to the very limit of what a mortal being can do! If you keep straining yourself, the connections of your body, mind, and energy will unravel and you won't be able to fight at all. You won't get any stronger. "

I'm pretty sure those quotes are only referring to Goku 'forcing his way into the future'. Meaning him doing that was causing disassociation between his body, mind and energy. Given it's about him predicting Hit's moves, it was probably his mind forcing its way 'into the future'. Either that's flowery language for Goku just thinking so hard his mind was disconnecting from his body or his consciousness was literally forcing itself into the future while his body remained in the present.

Someone might bring up Goku countering Hit mid-Time Skip with Kaio-Ken but in that instance his mind, body and energy were clearly together. So I don't see that making sense. King Kai was highlighting Goku predicting Hit causing it.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
Episode 43

King Kai
"The Kaio-Ken wasn't your only gamble. That fight with Hit, when you were predicting his moves, you weren't just guessing. You were forcing your way into the future for an advantage, weren't you?"

Goku
"Yeah, so?"

King Kai
"So you're pushing yourself to the very limit of what a mortal being can do! If you keep straining yourself, the connections of your body, mind, and energy will unravel and you won't be able to fight at all. You won't get any stronger. "

I'm pretty sure those quotes are only referring to Goku 'forcing his way into the future'. Meaning him doing that was causing disassociation between his body, mind and energy. Given it's about him predicting Hit's moves, it was probably his mind forcing its way 'into the future'. Either that's flowery language for Goku just thinking so hard his mind was disconnecting from his body or his consciousness was literally forcing itself into the future while his body remained in the present.

Someone might bring up Goku countering Hit mid-Time Skip with Kaio-Ken but in that instance his mind, body and energy were clearly together. So I don't see that making sense. King Kai was highlighting Goku predicting Hit causing it.
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I could be wrong, but apparently the "forcing yourself into the future" stuff was a mistranslation. Idk tho
 
CryoTheMayo said:
Not finding anything on this. I would appreciate it if someone could get a translator to take a look at the scene and verify.
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It said predicting when the episode updated, could be wrong though, if it is true that it said Goku is forcing himself to the future. That's a blatant immeasurable speed feat.
 
TiltedFN said:
I don't see how it's anything other than that tbh, outlier, but still. The whole concept of predict someone like hit makes no sense unless you yourself attacks through time.
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I mean, going by VSBW logic, it can't truly be immeasurable.

Kaio-Ken x10 is a 10x amp in all, including speed. If Kaio-Ken x10 is immeasurable, then by said logic Goku Blue would also be immeasurable... yet Goku Blue couldn't perform said feat.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since afaik that's exclusive from dub
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
I mean, going by VSBW logic, it can't truly be immeasurable.

Kaio-Ken x10 is a 10x amp in all, including speed. If Kaio-Ken x10 is immeasurable, then by said logic Goku Blue would also be immeasurable... yet Goku Blue couldn't perform said feat.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since afaik that's exclusive from dub
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By that logic we should downscale every one in canon dbz to low multi cause the multiplier wont be infinite
 
Jaakor48 said:
For some absurd reason, despite the plethora of anime references, anime only events and characters and even events that follow the anime route and ignore the manga one, this site doesn't consider the anime canon to super
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Why is that? That's dumb
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
I mean, going by VSBW logic, it can't truly be immeasurable.

Kaio-Ken x10 is a 10x amp in all, including speed. If Kaio-Ken x10 is immeasurable, then by said logic Goku Blue would also be immeasurable... yet Goku Blue couldn't perform said feat.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since afaik that's exclusive from dub
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Vsbttles just being herself lol
 
I highly doubt any of you can achieve immeasurable speed for Goku, I bet you will invent everything to deny this, as hyperbole, translation error, if they had even at the immeasurable speed It didn't take long for them to finish a fight, it would be practically instantaneous, besides them saying that DB is too simple to have things like this (I have to admit these things have been said hundreds of times )
 
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