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iirc, Akira and Toei never that care about Anime and Manga canonically like our wiki except Movies and GTif the wiki just accepted that the super anime is a continuation of the z anime this problem would not persist
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iirc, Akira and Toei never that care about Anime and Manga canonically like our wiki except Movies and GTif the wiki just accepted that the super anime is a continuation of the z anime this problem would not persist
On the other hand, Toei places the Super anime on a timeline with the previous three anime... which includes GT for some reason-
Original Japanese | English Translation (DeepL) |
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アニメーションシリーズの「Z」と「GT」の間、つまり、原作517話で魔人ブウとの戦いが終わった後、518話までの空白の10年の間に起こったエピソードが初めて描かれる。 | For the first time, episodes that took place during the gap of 10 years between "Z" and "GT" of the animation series, that is, after the battle with Majin Buu ended in episode 517 of the original story, until episode 518, will be depicted. |
Interesting, this all looks really good. But I am neutral, I can't say I agree or disagree.Both Viz and Toei have continued their respective works to be separate from each other.
Viz considers the Super manga to be the canonical continuation of Toriyama's work and places it on a timeline alongside the original story.
Furthermore, Toriyama, Toyotaro, and Viz speak of the manga as though it really is just an extension of the original.
On the other hand, Toei places the Super anime on a timeline with the previous three anime... which includes GT for some reason-
Along with that, the Super anime was consistently referred to as "the first anime in eighteen years", with Dragon Ball GT having ended in 1997 (remember, the anime started in 2015), and is considered the direct continuation of the anime series that ended sometime ago.
Original Japanese English Translation (DeepL)アニメーションシリーズの「Z」と「GT」の間、つまり、原作517話で魔人ブウとの戦いが終わった後、518話までの空白の10年の間に起こったエピソードが初めて描かれる。 For the first time, episodes that took place during the gap of 10 years between "Z" and "GT" of the animation series, that is, after the battle with Majin Buu ended in episode 517 of the original story, until episode 518, will be depicted.
Also, when Toriyama talks about the Super anime, he also references the other anime series as though they were related.
The counterargument the Wiki currently employs is that, "Both the anime and the manga are based on Toriyama's draft, meaning they are both continuations of the manga", but that means little to nothing. This draft is Super and was adapted by two different teams into two separate stories based off of two separate continuities.
Besides, the anime makes numerous references to the original anime and the Z anime with varying sizes and significance. For example:
I would make a CRT for this topic, but I need to gather up more stuff from the Super anime. But, the manga and the anime are constantly portrayed as and considered distinct continuities, with one taking after the original manga, and the other taking after the original anime.
- After Ginyu-Tagoma finished telling his story to Frieza, detailing how he was converted into a frog and what he did after being transported to Earth by the Dragon Ball, Bulma angrily voices comments on the Ginyu-Frog and is flustered when Goten and Trunks ask her about it, a very obvious callback to the time when Ginyu-Frog body-swapped with Bulma on Planet Namek -- anime-exclusive.
- In Future Trunks' flashback about his Gohan's death, he transforms into a Super Saiyan for the first time upon coming across Gohan's body in the rain, events that are nearly a shot-for-shot reaction of those in the TV special, but not the manga version of events in which Trunks had already achieved Super Saiyan prior to Gohan’s death and did not transform after finding his body. Also, another thing to note is that Gohan tricked Trunks into looking away from him before striking the boy, whereas in the TV special and the reanimated flashback, Gohan agreed to fight with Trunks and struck him in the neck while he prepared to fly off.
- All of the flashbacks to Gohan's battle with Cell as a Super Saiyan 2 reuse anime footage, and they also reuse scenes that were not included in the manga, such as Cell unsuccessfully launching Destructo Discs at him, and Gohan toying with Semi-Perfect Cell before he decides to self-destruct.
- Goku and Vegeta play Rock Paper Scissors in order to determine who gets to fight Goku Black the second time around, and Vegeta wins, beating Goku’s scissors with rock and declaring that he will not fall for such cheap tricks anymore, a callback to Goku and Vegeta playing Rock Paper Scissors in the Buu Saga in order to determine who gets to fight Kid Buu first, with Goku beating Vegeta’s scissors with rock.
Wait wtf, It’s not???if the wiki just accepted that the super anime is a continuation of the z anime this problem would not persist
The wiki accepts super anime as a continuation of the dragon ball manga.Wait wtf, It’s not???
I'm here worried about when are we gonna finally have an answer for lifting strength
Just wait until anime UI Goku starts pulling on planet moro.
I LOVE THISBoth Viz and Toei have continued their respective works to be separate from each other.
Viz considers the Super manga to be the canonical continuation of Toriyama's work and places it on a timeline alongside the original story.
Furthermore, Toriyama, Toyotaro, and Viz speak of the manga as though it really is just an extension of the original.
On the other hand, Toei places the Super anime on a timeline with the previous three anime... which includes GT for some reason-
Along with that, the Super anime was consistently referred to as "the first anime in eighteen years", with Dragon Ball GT having ended in 1997 (remember, the anime started in 2015), and is considered the direct continuation of the anime series that ended sometime ago.
Original Japanese English Translation (DeepL)アニメーションシリーズの「Z」と「GT」の間、つまり、原作517話で魔人ブウとの戦いが終わった後、518話までの空白の10年の間に起こったエピソードが初めて描かれる。 For the first time, episodes that took place during the gap of 10 years between "Z" and "GT" of the animation series, that is, after the battle with Majin Buu ended in episode 517 of the original story, until episode 518, will be depicted.
Also, when Toriyama talks about the Super anime, he also references the other anime series as though they were related.
The counterargument the Wiki currently employs is that, "Both the anime and the manga are based on Toriyama's draft, meaning they are both continuations of the manga", but that means little to nothing. This draft is Super and was adapted by two different teams into two separate stories based off of two separate continuities.
Besides, the anime makes numerous references to the original anime and the Z anime with varying sizes and significance. For example:
I would make a CRT for this topic, but I need to gather up more stuff from the Super anime. But, the manga and the anime are constantly portrayed as and considered distinct continuities, with one taking after the original manga, and the other taking after the original anime.
- After Ginyu-Tagoma finished telling his story to Frieza, detailing how he was converted into a frog and what he did after being transported to Earth by the Dragon Ball, Bulma angrily voices comments on the Ginyu-Frog and is flustered when Goten and Trunks ask her about it, a very obvious callback to the time when Ginyu-Frog body-swapped with Bulma on Planet Namek -- anime-exclusive.
- In Future Trunks' flashback about his Gohan's death, he transforms into a Super Saiyan for the first time upon coming across Gohan's body in the rain, events that are nearly a shot-for-shot reaction of those in the TV special, but not the manga version of events in which Trunks had already achieved Super Saiyan prior to Gohan’s death and did not transform after finding his body. Also, another thing to note is that Gohan tricked Trunks into looking away from him before striking the boy, whereas in the TV special and the reanimated flashback, Gohan agreed to fight with Trunks and struck him in the neck while he prepared to fly off.
- All of the flashbacks to Gohan's battle with Cell as a Super Saiyan 2 reuse anime footage, and they also reuse scenes that were not included in the manga, such as Cell unsuccessfully launching Destructo Discs at him, and Gohan toying with Semi-Perfect Cell before he decides to self-destruct.
- Goku and Vegeta play Rock Paper Scissors in order to determine who gets to fight Goku Black the second time around, and Vegeta wins, beating Goku’s scissors with rock and declaring that he will not fall for such cheap tricks anymore, a callback to Goku and Vegeta playing Rock Paper Scissors in the Buu Saga in order to determine who gets to fight Kid Buu first, with Goku beating Vegeta’s scissors with rock.
It would actually be better to scale them from the other world feat because the scaling chain and multipliers are far longer.That's kinda huge. Actually...does this mean the Otherworld speed feat can be applied to Super? I mean they hardly need it honestly, considering how fast they already are.
Can you provide the evidence to said claim instead of the usualWe've had several discussions on it. In different interviews, both the manga and anime are said to be a continuation of the original work. Nothing is going to change, that's all old info.
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Yeah, Frieza's betrayal of Goku's trust has an amazing line in Kai. I'll fully quote it."Or better still....to die....in disgrace AT THE HANDS OF YOUR MASTER!”
- Frieza
Chris Ayers best Frieza line
One of my favorite was when he unveiled his true form and killed Dende:
"I promised you, didn't I? That I'd show you a nightmare beyond the horrors of Hell?
Of course I had hoped to include all of you. But from the looks of things, it seems the little one (Dende) won't be joining us. Such a shame don't you think? When you see him in the next world, I suppose you'll have to tell him what he missed."
We knowthe manga sucks