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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

for a sonic fan it seems like you're not that fast
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Sonic has immeasurable speed dude of course he’d lose.
....not combat aplicable in a way that would matter, also that was before that was implemented

I think I know what your talking about it’s some match from 2018. Sonic was 2-C in his super form and Goku was Low 2-C in MUI. Like he’d obviously lose.
Nope

Everyone knows that Sonic with some colored stones can beat Goku and Sonic has a monstrous power level.
it was base Sonic tho
 
lol DB is easily one of the fastest MFTL+ verses on the wiki, it was faster than saint seiya in the MFTL+ tier
Actually no it wasn't (back when they were MFTL+, now they aren't and I'm talking about common Gold speed scaling, when I mean they aren't)

"I will give this scene 5 seconds because Shaka already explained the various realms to Ikki when he used the same technique once before on Ikki. So, everything happened at a much faster pace when it was used the 2nd time.

1.0e+65 km / 5 seconds = 2e64 km/s ( or 2e68 m/s) ||| How many times the speed of light is that? Take that number divided by the speed of light in meters per second.

2e68 / 299792458 = 6.6712819e59 times the speed of light

six novemdecillion six hundred and seventy-one ocodecillion two hundred and eighty-one septendecillion nine hundred sexdecillion || Times the speed of light."
 
Actually no it wasn't (back when they were MFTL+, now they aren't and I'm talking about common Gold speed scaling, when I mean they aren't)

"I will give this scene 5 seconds because Shaka already explained the various realms to Ikki when he used the same technique once before on Ikki. So, everything happened at a much faster pace when it was used the 2nd time.

1.0e+65 km / 5 seconds = 2e64 km/s ( or 2e68 m/s) ||| How many times the speed of light is that? Take that number divided by the speed of light in meters per second.

2e68 / 299792458 = 6.6712819e59 times the speed of light

six novemdecillion six hundred and seventy-one ocodecillion two hundred and eighty-one septendecillion nine hundred sexdecillion || Times the speed of light."
Are you talking about that illusion created by Shaka? Ikki barely moved, that shouldn't count as speed
 
Actually no it wasn't (back when they were MFTL+, now they aren't and I'm talking about common Gold speed scaling, when I mean they aren't)

"I will give this scene 5 seconds because Shaka already explained the various realms to Ikki when he used the same technique once before on Ikki. So, everything happened at a much faster pace when it was used the 2nd time.

1.0e+65 km / 5 seconds = 2e64 km/s ( or 2e68 m/s) ||| How many times the speed of light is that? Take that number divided by the speed of light in meters per second.

2e68 / 299792458 = 6.6712819e59 times the speed of light

six novemdecillion six hundred and seventy-one ocodecillion two hundred and eighty-one septendecillion nine hundred sexdecillion || Times the speed of light."
.....that's literally an illusion, it wasnt even used for that reason. pretty sure the wiki used shura's big bang speed feat for gold saints which is slower than DB's old speed ratings.

see here, Goku is above Seiya in speed according to speed ratings from 2021:
 
.....that's literally an illusion, it wasnt even used for that reason. pretty sure the wiki used shura's big bang speed feat for gold saints which is slower than DB's old speed ratings.

see here, Goku is above Seiya in speed according to speed ratings from 2021:
that Invisible Dragon is ******* crazy
 
.....that's literally an illusion, it wasnt even used for that reason. pretty sure the wiki used shura's big bang speed feat for gold saints which is slower than DB's old speed ratings.

see here, Goku is above Seiya in speed according to speed ratings from 2021:
Invisible dragon, TF.

Light novels love going crazy
 
also reading the "gohan isn't 2x SPC"
while i disagree with the core proposal
i kinda agree goku shouldn't be thousands of times weaker than perfect cell, but meh we don't know how much power was cell was holding so it's gonna he guesswork
 
if we assume buu is 4A, who would scale?
goku, vegito, gohan and gotenks for fighting buu

would vegeta scale? considering he fought Goku before he trained yet again with the kais
 
Well, i asked people to do a calculation, let's see what will happen.

 
Does Infinite Zamasu scale to his timeline or just the universe and why? He was affecting the future and past of his timeline, right?
Also, can Goku just negate hax of any opponent, like Gojo's infinity by deafult, because he has more AP than him and etc, or is it just something with inverse?
 
Does Infinite Zamasu scale to his timeline or just the universe and why? He was affecting the future and past of his timeline, right?
He only scales to the main Universe

Infinite Zamasu was reaching other timelines, but this is range and himself only showed to fuse with the universe

Also, can Goku just negate hax of any opponent, like Gojo's infinity by deafult, because he has more AP than him and etc, or is it just something with inverse?
There were several times where being stronger than someone in DB didn´t make you immune to the opponent's hax, Hit's abilities are pretty much an exception
 
Does Infinite Zamasu scale to his timeline or just the universe and why? He was affecting the future and past of his timeline, right?
Just the universe, but he has low ic inter dimensional range, which makes him pretty hard to kill
Also, can Goku just negate hax of any opponent, like Gojo's infinity by deafult, because he has more AP than him and etc, or is it just something with inverse?
Only the abilities shown to be resisted this way, not any ability, that's a NLF
 
Does Infinite Zamasu scale to his timeline or just the universe and why? He was affecting the future and past of his timeline, right?
Also, can Goku just negate hax of any opponent, like Gojo's infinity by deafult, because he has more AP than him and etc, or is it just something with inverse?
About the infinite Gojo thing he cheats through space-time distortion and 2-C range from what i remember in the battle here
 
Only the abilities shown to be resisted this way, not any ability, that's a NLF
But it's stated in DB that's the case because if you are stronger than your opponent, you negate their hax, so if you're stronger than a character, can't you negate the hax of somebody? If it was something abstract like a wall level character with fate manipulation, understandable maybe (I doubt), but what if it's just spatial manipulation or whatever. Shouldn't it work?
 
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