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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Fezzih_007
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The match as made when he din't have infinite speed, with his speed being MFTL+ like Goku, and he still won.
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I think I know what your talking about it’s some match from 2018. Sonic was 2-C in his super form and Goku was Low 2-C in MUI. Like he’d obviously lose.
The match as made when he din't have infinite speed, with his speed being MFTL+ like Goku, and he still won.
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Everyone knows that Sonic with some colored stones can beat Goku and Sonic has a monstrous power level.
The match as made when he din't have infinite speed, with his speed being MFTL+ like Goku, and he still won.
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Basically this
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....not combat aplicable in a way that would matter, also that was before that was implemented
Nope
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Spinoirr
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No it was base sonic vs Goku
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lol DB is easily one of the fastest MFTL+ verses on the wiki, it was faster than saint seiya in the MFTL+ tier
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Actually no it wasn't (back when they were MFTL+, now they aren't and I'm talking about common Gold speed scaling, when I mean they aren't)
"I will give this scene 5 seconds because Shaka already explained the various realms to Ikki when he used the same technique once before on Ikki. So, everything happened at a much faster pace when it was used the 2nd time.
1.0e+65 km / 5 seconds = 2e64 km/s ( or 2e68 m/s) ||| How many times the speed of light is that? Take that number divided by the speed of light in meters per second.
2e68 / 299792458 = 6.6712819e59 times the speed of light
six novemdecillion six hundred and seventy-one ocodecillion two hundred and eighty-one septendecillion nine hundred sexdecillion || Times the speed of light."
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Are you talking about that illusion created by Shaka? Ikki barely moved, that shouldn't count as speed
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.....that's literally an illusion, it wasnt even used for that reason. pretty sure the wiki used shura's big bang speed feat for gold saints which is slower than DB's old speed ratings.
see here, Goku is above Seiya in speed according to speed ratings from 2021:
TOP 15 FASTEST CHARACTERS
Pretty much the title Only Finite speed characters should be used (No infinite, Immeasurable or Irrelevant Speed Characters) I think there were few Threads about this but they were old & I want to find the current scenario of 15 fastest characters RANKS 1- Invisible Dragon...
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(now they aren't and I'm talking about common Gold speed scaling, when I mean they aren't)
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Bro, using an illusion to give speed to the characters is very wrong, the guy barely left the place (dark times in Saint Seiya)
Now it seems correct i think
Vietthai96
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that Invisible Dragon is ******* crazy.....that's literally an illusion, it wasnt even used for that reason. pretty sure the wiki used shura's big bang speed feat for gold saints which is slower than DB's old speed ratings.
see here, Goku is above Seiya in speed according to speed ratings from 2021:
TOP 15 FASTEST CHARACTERS
Pretty much the title Only Finite speed characters should be used (No infinite, Immeasurable or Irrelevant Speed Characters) I think there were few Threads about this but they were old & I want to find the current scenario of 15 fastest characters RANKS 1- Invisible Dragon...vsbattles.com
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Yeah
RoninSlayer200
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change invisible dragon's name to fast dragon because wtf is that speed
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this isn't an argument or a reason
Eden_Warlock99
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Daima could get DBZ to 4-A with a Buu flashback
Killerdrone123
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Invisible dragon, TF......that's literally an illusion, it wasnt even used for that reason. pretty sure the wiki used shura's big bang speed feat for gold saints which is slower than DB's old speed ratings.
see here, Goku is above Seiya in speed according to speed ratings from 2021:
TOP 15 FASTEST CHARACTERS
Pretty much the title Only Finite speed characters should be used (No infinite, Immeasurable or Irrelevant Speed Characters) I think there were few Threads about this but they were old & I want to find the current scenario of 15 fastest characters RANKS 1- Invisible Dragon...
Light novels love going crazy
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true. Buu should be low 2-C
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Majin Buu Saga should be 3-A
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i think he should be whatever "overtime universal destruction" is
which seems to be at least 4A
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Well, i asked people to do a calculation, let's see what will happen.
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Energy gathered throughout the Universe
How the genkidama that gathers energy from all beings works The manga Z took a retcon, where the energy now able to absorb all the energy from the universe and afterlife This goes for the super manga as well which contains quotes about receiving energy from the Universe. The official...
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Does Infinite Zamasu scale to his timeline or just the universe and why? He was affecting the future and past of his timeline, right?
Also, can Goku just negate hax of any opponent, like Gojo's infinity by deafult, because he has more AP than him and etc, or is it just something with inverse?
Also, can Goku just negate hax of any opponent, like Gojo's infinity by deafult, because he has more AP than him and etc, or is it just something with inverse?
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He only scales to the main Universe
Infinite Zamasu was reaching other timelines, but this is range and himself only showed to fuse with the universe
There were several times where being stronger than someone in DB didn´t make you immune to the opponent's hax, Hit's abilities are pretty much an exception
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it isn't even a thing inverse
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Just the universe, but he has low ic inter dimensional range, which makes him pretty hard to kill
Only the abilities shown to be resisted this way, not any ability, that's a NLF
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About the infinite Gojo thing he cheats through space-time distortion and 2-C range from what i remember in the battle here
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What about the fact he affected the past and future?
Like?
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But it's stated in DB that's the case because if you are stronger than your opponent, you negate their hax, so if you're stronger than a character, can't you negate the hax of somebody? If it was something abstract like a wall level character with fate manipulation, understandable maybe (I doubt), but what if it's just spatial manipulation or whatever. Shouldn't it work?
RoninSlayer200
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stated where? this has never been stated in both anime and manga
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Monster Carrot, Buu, Babidi, Ginyu for example all had hax that worked on stronger opponents
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