Spinoirr
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This one that my mutual is in?
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Nullflowerblush
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THAT'S YOUR MUTUAL?
Spinoirr
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Yeah Aiho
Dust_Collector
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Grade 4 actually has greater power than Grade 3, trust me bro I haven't read the manga
Eden_Warlock99
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Gamma 2 be ded
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so original and funny, i stand by my opinionJarvis, pull up that “Dragon Ball fans don’t read their manga” meme
reviving is ass, if ur gonna do it, at least limit it to once (which was true at the start but wtv)
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don't benefit from what? death having a consequence?
well, for me it just ruins the moment, piccolo saving gohan in a dramatic sad moment, just for him to get revived in the next saga
krillin dies and goku gets mad and awakens the super saiyan and fullfils the prophecy, gets revived not a long time after
don't let me start on how they revived freeza
yeah death having a consequence in a timeline that we don't see much from outside 2 sagas, we are obviously talking about the main stuff
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doesn't really matter to my points at all, sure death had a consequence in that saga
still, the repetitive reviving is annoying for me, if ur gonna revive a character, might as well just.. not kill them
Fezzih_007
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Yes.
Writting that in the story is pointless, since dying in Dragon Ball just serves one porpuse, which is, give someone else a powerboost, and nothing more. That one that doesn't, just due for chockvalue.
What I trying to say is, I doubt the writters can actually do a good story with that, so might as well not do so.
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that's kind of half my point yeah
if u can't incorporate death into the story why even have it? u can always give characters powerboosts without killing characters
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My boy Yujiro gets shredded against UI. He and base Goku are samiliar in many aspects but the difference is the character. Base Goku is more of a combat athlete while Yujiro is just a straight up warrior and thats why he would beat base Goku.
Goku has a better scaling chain when it comes to "master of every martial arts", Sayjans trait is just much better, more talented and UI.
Yujiros height or better size in general gets overrated. Someone of his size is tailor made for bodyshots = stamina goes brrr.
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.... LMAO
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Demons brain is the only thing that could make it a bit interesting but my man found his master.
Honestly size advantage gets overrated in a stats equal fight when you are up against the wrong guy. Its mostly useless without a strength advanatge. Height gives Yujiro the advantage of negating most punches since most of the stabilization goes to the shoulder (simply put). Long arms gives him a better feeling for the distance and control. Weight makes the generated force easier to transfer.
Combine it with Yujiros own skills and being a master of every martial art ... hes a pain in the ass.
Sounds cool and dandy but it aint much of a problem for Goku. For every step Yujrio makes, he has to sacrfice more stamina due the weight. Them long arms aint doin shit once Goku close the gap and destroys him from the inside. Yujiros big body is tailor made for getting wrecked via bodyshots and while Goku is smaller, it means hes more agile and much more tricky like a low center of gravity etc
Goku got the same statements, counters the x-ray vision, comperable skills and UIs scaling chain.
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I don't know why people complain about death in DB having this reliving thing.
It's basically the same thing as "No one dies" that people complain about in general battle shounens (of course there are exceptions), only better.
With death you don't get that thing of "why didn't the villain kill the guy?", in DB when the antagonist wants to kill, and you know he's strong enough to kill, he kills.
And I think DB uses the Dragon Balls revive thing well.
I think something like the boo saga where everyone dies by the villain and then are revived by something already established is much better than, I don't know, the final war arc of Fairy Tail (original manga)
That shit, every fight has a super mega dramatic death scene of some protagonist so that in the end it's fake, every damn fight. Consecutively mega dramatic scenes for fake deaths. This irritated me to an unimaginable level.
It's basically the same thing as "No one dies" that people complain about in general battle shounens (of course there are exceptions), only better.
With death you don't get that thing of "why didn't the villain kill the guy?", in DB when the antagonist wants to kill, and you know he's strong enough to kill, he kills.
And I think DB uses the Dragon Balls revive thing well.
I think something like the boo saga where everyone dies by the villain and then are revived by something already established is much better than, I don't know, the final war arc of Fairy Tail (original manga)
That shit, every fight has a super mega dramatic death scene of some protagonist so that in the end it's fake, every damn fight. Consecutively mega dramatic scenes for fake deaths. This irritated me to an unimaginable level.
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it's definitely better than some other stories honestly, but again it really ruins the intense of the moment
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Speaking of Gohan.
Cool clip. With sick impact frames.
Cool clip. With sick impact frames.
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Super Shenron: The Dragon Who Said 'Nah' to 5D Erasure
Alright, so here's the deal. We all know Zeno's no slouch when it comes to wiping things out, right? I mean, the guy erased a whole hypertimeline like it was nothing. Putting him comfortably at Low 1-C with that sweet 5D existence erasure. But what happens when someone undoes all that...
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If you erase someone with history level existence erasure, wouldn’t everyone who isn’t acausal forget about that person’s existence too?
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I think it'd depend on the verse
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Concept, Information, History, and probably Narrative level erasure should naturally entail that (especially history erasure since the whole point is that they’re disappearing as if they’d never existed), but most verses don’t consistently adhere to that.
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I might get a bit of negative press for this one, but I prefer Toyo’s approach to Jackie Chun here over Toriyama’s. Though it’s not really a fair comparison, because the goals of each piece and what they’re used for is totally different (Weekly Manga Vs Single Page Manga Promo), so it’s like trying to use a sprinting trial to a marathon. Not to mention the fact Toyo has the advantage of hindsight over 40 years of Dragon Ball, whereas Toriyama was literally coming up with the stuff as he went along.
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I'm not going to lie: I've always been spilt when it came to Toyotaro's art, but this is pretty spot on to the OG manga and in some cases looks slicker and cleaner.
It's not necessarily, and I don't want them to EVER do it, but the idea of redrawing Dragon Ball with the modern look is kinda cool to speculate on.
It's not necessarily, and I don't want them to EVER do it, but the idea of redrawing Dragon Ball with the modern look is kinda cool to speculate on.
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I want more scenery destruction in DB and more quality in the drawings (i wanted something around OPM or Dragon Ball Kakumei), DB art is very simple, we've been doing this for almost 30 years.
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Just one piece of art from Dr.Slump solos Toyoweirdos whole career.
If we add the Artbooks, Toyotaro gets erased from existence and across history.
On top of that, Toriyamas art has soo much more personality.
OPM got a big team and webtoon artist have much more freeroom and can get away with more stuff compared to mangakas.
Kakumei is just utter trash.
If we add the Artbooks, Toyotaro gets erased from existence and across history.
On top of that, Toriyamas art has soo much more personality.
OPM got a big team and webtoon artist have much more freeroom and can get away with more stuff compared to mangakas.
Kakumei is just utter trash.
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