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he meant ui omen
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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This is the first time speed has been mentioned in DBZ.
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Supersonic Saiyan Saga
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I didn't understand the meme
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I’m ngl, that is an insane take
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Okay I got two things I wanna bring up:
- Beerus's AP justification says that it's stated that Broly Saga Goku and Vegeta are still desperately catching up to him. This is false. I can't access it for some reason, but you can see it in the scan used for Broly Saga Final Form Frieza's justification. What it actually says is that Goku is close to becoming a god, and Vegeta is desperately trying to catch up to him
- I know there's a massive scaling chain from a Dead Zone Class P feat for the Toei continuity. Wouldn't this be a clear anti-feat?
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There are MANY anti-feats for LS against it to the point it's not even funny.
Like:
- The whole x10 Gravity thing happened after in the Saiyan Saga
- Them constantly using Gravity Increases in the hundreds for training
- A Yamcha who is far stronger than that Gohan ALMOST DYING from x300 Gravity
- The infamous 40 tons scene
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The gravity stuff will never not be funny lol. Even in Super.
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That was through TK so it doesn't count.
However funnily enough Tao Pai-Pai's stuff would be an outlier.
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That Elephant was blatantly having Class Z LS.
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AND it got crushed on the dragon ball, so goku is elephant level and dragon ball level.
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This was part of the justification even before Super Hero came out
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So i think it's vandalism.
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Definitely not, it was probably just a misinterpretation of the text that got accepted
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There is also this thing that says that Jiren's level was the same as Goku and Vegeta, but the ki control was totally different from both of them.
And Whis confirms this indeed
And Whis confirms this indeed
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I understand
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Infinite Universe (Easy Route)
Toeiverse Universe So this thread is gonna be exclusively about the toei cosmology, since I don’t want to get into the controversy of Super right now. It runs through more smoothly if I focus on this one instead. Why should the Universe be considered infinite? There are a multitude of...
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It's a little hard for super, do you have a scan that can make the universe infinite?Infinite Universe (Easy Route)
Toeiverse Universe So this thread is gonna be exclusively about the toei cosmology, since I don’t want to get into the controversy of Super right now. It runs through more smoothly if I focus on this one instead. Why should the Universe be considered infinite? There are a multitude of...vsbattles.com
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I have no idea, maybe a timeline would have been created that zeno never destroyed this timeline
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I would think that Infinite Zamasu would rule the entire multiverse
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Can be made a good story from it imo
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I never like this
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Hmmmmm. I think I’ll start working on that revised GT Goku profile.
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I find crazy how jiren is more powerful than goku and vegeta with pure ki control, and he doesn't even have divine ki.
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Divine aura looks like something like divine ki. Vegeta get that aura just from trainings and get divine ki from that, why Jiren with that aura doesn't have god ki? He also can sense that ki. On Vegeta example just training and god ki sensing was enough to achieve this.
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Jiren can sense god ki? I dont remember that
BitestDust
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He was somehow judging Goku's strength and deciding whether to pay attention to him or not. All in all, not possessing a super advanced sense of Ki, standing up to MUI seems like an impossible task, because if you recall, back in the Freeza arc, Goku and Vegeta learnt how to amplify the Ki inside their bodies so that their opponents couldn't sense it. But then there was Freeza, who could do it, and Hit, whose skills at hiding and sensing Ki were much higher (by the way, Hit's attacks were also sensed by Jiren, even though he has at least a few layers of Ki hiding). In the end, he only paid attention to Goku when he started to show something special, before that he meditated with his eyes closed.
Also, the fact that Jiren's power was enough to bypass the Daishinkan's ban on flying (if it was a rule-based ban, he would have been disqualified like Frost, and since no one else was trying to use bokujutsu, it's likely that the ban was at the level of space) could be good evidence of his possession of Divine Ki, but that's speculation cuz we haven't statements about this.
And the best argument is that Vegeta himself said that Jiren's strength is almost no different from his and Goku's strength (this is not necessarily interpreted solely as the amount of strength, as the phrase itself is dual and can also speak to the nature of the strength).
Therefore, I think a divine aura is a sign of Godly Ki. Or it is a sign of a different, but to the same level developed Ki, because of which any power difference between these types of energy disappears. But at least divine aura is not present in owners of ordinary Ki, which is clearly seen in super saiyan and god forms.
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Curiously, I believe this dialogue from the Chouzenshuu is almost certainly derived from a line Paragus says in the original Broly film.
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