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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Does anyone have plans to take Infinite Zamasu to Low 1-C?

It doesn't make any sense that he only got range.
I remember it being tried on the same topic, but topics involving a lot of controversial things are generally more difficult.

Even though Zamasu's range basically extends, he kind of merges, doesn't he? So maybe there's an argument, although I doubt it will go ahead.
 
Ya'll remember how Goku in the Super manga noticed Black and Zamasu about to fuse and tried to stop that shit going "aw hell nah!"
 
To be more specific, Super Shenron can do anything , as well as any 'can do anything' is vague and usually riddled with hyperbole or used metaphorically to mean he can do many but not all things, which would still be vague. We'd need proof of extent of what they mean by it.

Now if they said absolutely anything that's an open and shut case considering what the term means is supercharging anything to it's maximum , but in fiction that's really never used to my knowledge (unless you're on Powerlisting Wiki)
 
Hyperbole is contradicted when it is said multiple times, Ss it is full of quotes that can do anything, even for Toei, work, there is no limitation to his requests.
 
Hyperbole is contradicted when it is said multiple times, Ss it is full of quotes that can do anything, even for Toei, work, there is no limitation to his requests.
Multiple times still doesn't confirm what they meant by it. Unless they affirm there is no limitations or exceptions to it and nothing contradicts it, there will always be wiggle room to imply a limitation or exception exists, especially with Zeno being a living roadblock to the idea.
 
we already assume he can effect all 18 macrocosms, despite him only effecting like 7 or something on screen

why that and not the entire timeline
 
So he defeat Zeno? Even though it is stated that "No one" can do so?
Of course, why not? Zeno mentions that he can do anything several times, this includes wiping Zeno himself off the face of the earth, we all know that Zeno is just a puppet of another superior being, where have you ever seen a weak God like Zeno who can't see the speed of other characters.


Confirmed by Champa that can accomplish anything without exception, Zeno, Daishinkan, Zuno.

Abilities: He can fulfill any wish made of him in the ancient language of the gods, without any restrictions, except for the fact that only one wish can be made at a time.

 
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Of course, why not? Zeno mentions that he can do anything several times, this includes wiping Zeno himself off the face of the earth, we all know that Zeno is just a puppet of another superior being, where have you ever seen a weak God like Zeno who can't see the speed of other characters.


Confirmed by Champa that can accomplish anything without exception, Zeno, Daishinkan, Zuno.
the grand priest scan is really good actually, he straight up says there's no wish beyond shenron
 
Multiple times still doesn't confirm what they meant by it. Unless they affirm there is no limitations or exceptions to it and nothing contradicts it, there will always be wiggle room to imply a limitation or exception exists, especially with Zeno being a living roadblock to the idea.
I don't see how it's hyperbole, since that's exactly what he can do, and saying it several times only reinforces his achievements even more, but it's said that there's no excess to his desires, it's even said by characters who have cosmic consciousness within DB, i don't see any refutation and saying it's hypnobabble doesn't help much.
 
Of course, why not? Zeno mentions that he can do anything several times, this includes wiping Zeno himself off the face of the earth, we all know that Zeno is just a puppet of another superior being, where have you ever seen a weak God like Zeno who can't see the speed of other characters.
Bro is reading too much DB fanfics

Confirmed by Champa that can accomplish anything without exception, Zeno, Daishinkan, Zuno.
Beerus and Whis talking about Zeno:
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zeno and the grand priest themselves say that shenron has no limit, they're more reliable than beerus and whis imo
and the statements aren't even contradictory


but this kinda diverged from my initial point
my point was, if we're gonna assume, why assume specifically "all universes without the timeline"? scaling him to his actual feat is a better option
Can SS wish someone else to be stronger then Zeno?
whether i say yes or no is all speculation, we don't know
 
I hate to admit it, but it's like OPM fans once told me, Zeno gets blitzed by characters and the only way for him to win a fight is to resort to his existential erasure, lol
that is true, but that's the point
he's an overly strong child, upset him and ur entire world gets erased
 
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