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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

that's game stuff i'm pretty sure

bullshit

proof?
The name is only game, the technique is shown in the anime many times. If he isn't than why not use his own speed rather than relying on the staff's speed? Beerus to Whis "Can you go any faster". Whis "this is fast as I can go" and Beerus stays in the white warp
 
When is Whis ever stated to not be allowed to use his full power / flight speed? The only restriction on Whis is that he can't take biased actions in conflicts.
I agree that Whis probably isn’t limited this way, but there is some minor implication. Merus using his Angel Powers to train Goku, for example, was considered broaching the line. This implies that there is also some level of power they can’t cross. That SAID, Whis is constantly training Goku and Vegeta with Ultra Instinct thanks to its passive status within his physiology, so I elect to believe it’s either Merus Specific (He’s in training and on a Mortal Life Leave), or proportional to the Angel in question.
 
The name is only game, the technique is shown in the anime many times
no the "technique" itself is only distinguished as a technique separate from his flight in games. in both the manga and anime its just Whis's flight speed, nothing more. the anime and manga dont make the distinction only the games do.
If he isn't than why not use his own speed rather than relying on the staff's speed?
cuz they're the same as I said. He IS relying on his own speed. the distinction only comes from the game. his staff's speed is never referred to as a separate "ability" in any canon media
Beerus to Whis "Can you go any faster". Whis "this is fast as I can go" and Beerus stays in the white warp
which is disproven when Whis comes from beerus's planet to earth in under a minute on screen and says he has never flown this fast before in the Arale episode.
 
Did you forget? When the universe was accepted as infinite, infinite speed was considered atypical.
In terms of speed, the only thing that would happen would be a downgrade since that calculation could no longer be used.
that's just bullshit lol. this proves that the problem isnt DB's speed having (too many) outliers the problem is the incredulity of a few people who have a strict headcanon as to what Dragon Ball should be
 
I agree that Whis probably isn’t limited this way, but there is some minor implication. Merus using his Angel Powers to train Goku, for example, was considered broaching the line. This implies that there is also some level of power they can’t cross. That SAID, Whis is constantly training Goku and Vegeta with Ultra Instinct thanks to its passive status within his physiology, so I elect to believe it’s either Merus Specific (He’s in training and on a Mortal Life Leave), or proportional to the Angel in question.
Granted Whis definitely isn't using his full power in sparring matches; he could knock out Beerus with a tap after all so he definitely isn't fighting at that level when training Goku and Vegeta. Doesn't mean he has to limit himself outside of that.
 
that's just bullshit lol. this proves that the problem isnt DB's speed having (too many) outliers the problem is the incredulity of a few people who have a strict canon as to what Dragon Ball should be
Well, at the time it was considered outlier. And well, I doubt anything has changed since that time.

Since there will still be the ToP problem and the lack of more similar feats.
 
Idk what everyone is arguing but whis isn't allowed to go full power otherwise he would get erased just like what happened to meerus so yes there is an extent till which whis could use his power otherwise it would breach the angel code
 
Granted Whis definitely isn't using his full power in sparring matches; he could knock out Beerus with a tap after all so he definitely isn't fighting at that level when training Goku and Vegeta. Doesn't mean he has to limit himself outside of that.
That’s what I mean by proportional. Merus using his Angel Power (Ultra Instinct and that general level), is a problem—But Whis at that level is fine because he’s not taking it seriously at all.
 
no the "technique" itself is only distinguished as a technique separate from his flight in games. in both the manga and anime its just Whis's flight speed, nothing more. the anime and manga dont make the distinction only the games do.

cuz they're the same as I said. He IS relying on his own speed. the distinction only comes from the game. his staff's speed is never referred to as a separate "ability" in any canon media

which is disproven when Whis comes from beerus's planet to earth in under a minute on screen and says he has never flown this fast before in the Arale episode.
False. We see Whis tap in space with the staff and than it creates a white warp. Clearly showing it's the staff ability.
 
False. We see Whis tap in space with the staff and than it creates a white warp. Clearly showing it's the staff ability.
nothing about that proves its a separate ability. and what warp? what is that? I've never heard that term in manga or anime so i have no idea what you're on about.
 
nothing about that proves its a separate ability. and what warp? what is that? I've never heard that term in manga or anime so i have no idea what you're on about.
He clearly uses the staff by taping it on the ground in ground or in space: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/d.../smart/width/386/height/259?cb=20190831033529



That white warp isn't Whis own aura. Also Whis staff has more technique such as: staff dimension and its not Whis own technique als. Yet it doesn't have a name either.
 
He clearly uses the staff by taping it on the ground in ground or in space: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/d.../smart/width/386/height/259?cb=20190831033529
dead link plus that link is about the temporal do-over. completely different thing.
That white warp isn't Whis own aura.
prove that. also makes no difference but try proving that
Also Whis staff has more technique such as: staff dimension and its not Whis own technique als. Yet it doesn't have a name either.
makes no difference.

Its clear what your goal here is you've been presenting every possible DB downplay argument you can possibly find in every possible trashcan that exists including sites like comicvine but it wont work here. continue being insufferable and you'll (hopefully) get thread banned again
 
why a blog? just put in the relevant Characters inteligence Section, in the others say "scales to x character" and be done with it
Other verses have skill blogs + the intelligence sections for the characters suck

Like anyone skill scaling from literally anyone from Grampa Gohan should have genius combat Intelligence

Also I ain't reading through a bunch of profiles to find out how skilled they are, a blog is much easier to read
 
dead link plus that link is about the temporal do-over. completely different thing.

prove that. also makes no difference but try proving that

makes no difference.

Its clear what your goal here is you've been presenting every possible DB downplay argument you can possibly find in every possible trashcan that exists including sites like comicvine but it wont work here. continue being insufferable and you'll (hopefully) get thread banned again
The Warp technique used by Whis in Dragon Ball Super is a form of teleportation, not a demonstration of his raw speed. When Whis uses the Warp technique, he taps his staff and a white sphere forms around him. This sphere is a protective field that allows him and anyone else within it to travel safely through space.

Now show me that the white warp is Whis aura
 
The Warp technique used by Whis in Dragon Ball Super is a form of teleportation, not a demonstration of his raw speed.
no such "technique" exists in the manga or anime. If there is then show me proof from either of those continuities that acknowledges it because I know for a fact you copied this from some Dragon ball wiki. and no its not teleportation either. the only forms of teleportation that exist in the verse are Instant Transmission and Kai-kai
irrelevant garbage
 
no such "technique" exists in the manga or anime. If there is then show me proof from either of those continuities that acknowledges it because I know for a fact you copied this from some Dragon ball wiki. and no its not teleportation either. the only forms of teleportation that exist in the verse are Instant Transmission and Kai-kai
It's a techniques. Why does Whis tap the ground creating a sphere with the staff?
 
prove it

i don't care why he does it, that doesn't prove anything. he doesn't do it in the Arale episode when he leaves Earth.
We also literally see a dimensional circle during flight when he uses warp. Also the tapping was off screen as it only showed them flying away. When Whis flies on his own the white warp is never shown, because its an transportation technique. So the staff being Whis own speed is head-canon and you dismissed it with "Nu, Uh!".
 
We also literally see a dimensional circle during flight when he uses warp.
what dimensional circle? it's just some light
Also the tapping was off screen as it only showed them flying away.
proof?
When Whis flies on his own the white warp is never shown,
and yet he can still blitz character who can react to attacks that would engulf the universe in seconds. you just debunked yourself 💀
because its an transportation technique.
transportation =/= teleportation. and transport who exactly? you still havent proven why its a technique.
So the staff being Whis own speed is head-canon and you dismissed it with "Nu, Uh!".
No you're the one bringing up headcanon and calling it a different ability by literally using evidence from games. don't play dumb with me. Either provide evidence from anime or manga that its a separate technique or piss off
 

my suspicion was right! Veronica IS a comicvine user 💀 💀. no wonder all her arguments are beyond gutter trash. and she repeatedly quotes the same guy from comicvine who's notorious for downplaying Dragon ball with bullshit like sub-FTL DBS and below universal Goku, it makes sense now. she gets all her arguments from comicvine
 

my suspicion was right! Veronica IS a comicvine user 💀 💀. no wonder all her arguments are beyond gutter trash. and she repeatedly quotes the same guy from comicvine who's notorious for downplaying Dragon ball with bullshit like sub-FTL DBS and below universal Goku, it makes sense now. she gets all her arguments from comicvine
None of mine arguments are from comicvine. SBG being retconned is literally shown and explained in RoF and U6 arc same with "combat" vs "travel" speed. So this whole SSG x SSG is fan-fiction garbage.
 
None of mine arguments are from comicvine. SBG being retconned is literally shown and explained in RoF and U6 arc same with "combat" vs "travel" speed
keep yapping lmao. No one takes you seriously. all your arguments are comicvine tier meme level bullshit with not a modicum of truth or original thought put into them. i honestly wish I had the kind of sheer misplaced confidence that you do in your own trashy takes
 
does it matter if it's a technique, it scales to Whis' reactions given he's done quick jerk, stops, pivots and even reacts to shit in a instant while doing it and Beerus has a feat where he was like 20% as quick as it by himself

my suspicion was right! Veronica IS a comicvine user 💀 💀. no wonder all her arguments are beyond gutter trash. and she repeatedly quotes the same guy from comicvine who's notorious for downplaying Dragon ball with bullshit like sub-FTL DBS and below universal Goku, it makes sense now. she gets all her arguments from comicvine
Don't start with or belittle other sites as a whole just because you have issue with an individual.
 
keep yapping lmao. No one takes you seriously. all your arguments are comicvine tier meme level bullshit with not a modicum of truth or original thought put into them. i honestly wish I had the kind of sheer misplaced confidence that you do in your own trashy takes
Except SBG being retconned is now known by the vast majority in Youtube, Reddit, Kazenshuu and many other vsbattle forums and it's growing. We can talk about it but you should calm down since its just fiction.
 
does it matter if it's a technique, it scales to Whis' reactions given he's done quick jerk, stops, pivots and even reacts to shit in a instant while doing it and Beerus has a feat where he was like 20% as quick as it by himself

Don't start with or belittle other sites as a whole just because you have issue with an individual.
oh no you would (and should) absolutely s**t on the gutter trash known as comicvine. I was just showing that my feeling wasnt just out of no where
 
Except SBG being retconned is now known by the vast majority in Youtube, Reddit, Kazenshuu and many other vsbattle forums and it's growing.
yeah maybe in your dreams cuz the exact opposite is happening as far as I know.
We can talk about it but you should calm down since its just fiction.
lol I have no intention of debating you. most of your arguments are copy-pasted nonsense
 
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