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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

yeah maybe in your dreams cuz the exact opposite is happening as far as I know.

lol I have no intention of debating you. most of your arguments are copy-pasted nonsense
Nope, look at the recent post in Ningen and DBS about SBG or read the comments with "SSG" as search. You will see almost everyone saying it got retconned since U6 and Kanzenshuu says the same thing. Also none of my arguments are from comicvine but from watching the show and information from movie.
 
Nope, look at the recent post in Ningen and DBS about SBG or read the comments with "SSG" as search. You will see almost everyone saying it got retconned since U6 and Kanzenshuu says the same thing. Also none of my arguments are from comicvine but from watching the show and information from movie.
none of that is happening, no one thinks it got retconned, at least not most of the scaling community. plus even if that was true that would just be an appeal to popularity fallacy
 
None of mine arguments are from comicvine. SBG being retconned is literally shown and explained in RoF and U6 arc same with "combat" vs "travel" speed. So this whole SSG x SSG is fan-fiction garbage.
Why are you not making a thread to make that accepted then?
 
none of that is happening, no one thinks it got retconned, at least not most of the scaling community. plus even if that was true that would just be an appeal to popularity fallacy
Here some evidence:

SSB is THE SSJ form with SSG
So going SSJ on SSG power is always SSB (SSJ)

Only SSB is beyond SSG power:

Again only SSB (SSJ) is beyond SSG
(Uhm, actually Goku, you could go SSJ3 and become 400 times beyond SSG power 🤓 ☝)

So yellow SSJ being 50x SSG is fan-fiction.
 
Here some evidence:

SSB is THE SSJ form with SSG
So going SSJ on SSG power is always SSB (SSJ)

Only SSB is beyond SSG power:

Again only SSB (SSJ) is beyond SSG
(Uhm, actually Goku, you could go SSJ3 and become 400 times beyond SSG power 🤓 ☝)

So yellow SSJ being 50x SSG is fan-fiction.
game screenshots arent canon. Only canon element from this game is the encyclopedia.
 
Here some evidence:

SSB is THE SSJ form with SSG
So going SSJ on SSG power is always SSB (SSJ)

Only SSB is beyond SSG power:

Again only SSB (SSJ) is beyond SSG
(Uhm, actually Goku, you could go SSJ3 and become 400 times beyond SSG power 🤓 ☝)

So yellow SSJ being 50x SSG is fan-fiction.
I'm tempted to not reply but here we go.
1-You do realize that base goku in G.o.G in base preformed a much better feat Tyan ssg, right?
1-You know that ssj preformed a much better feat than ssg, right?
3-You know that's its literally stated in the anime that goku absorbed SSG power in base? Aka, now in base he is as strong as ssg, right?
4-you know that ssb is literally going ssg, and then ssj ontop of it right? It's literally called super saiyan god super saiyan. Right?
5-And if you wanna use kakarot, I can also use dbh which has ssr3.
 
I'm tempted to not reply but here we go.
1-You do realize that base goku in G.o.G in base preformed a much better feat Tyan ssg, right?
1-You know that ssj preformed a much better feat than ssg, right?
3-You know that's its literally stated in the anime that goku absorbed SSG power in base? Aka, now in base he is as strong as ssg, right?
4-you know that ssb is literally going ssg, and then ssj ontop of it right? It's literally called super saiyan god super saiyan. Right?
5-And if you wanna use kakarot, I can also use dbh which has ssr3.
1. That's before U6 arc
2. That's also before U6 arc and SSG power grew stronger
3. True, but that's before the retcon
4. False in RoF his base is SSG, he doesn't go SSG. He stacks SSJ on his base SSG power and god-ki thus creating SSB.
5. DBZ Kakarot has canonical information while DBH is fan-fiction tier writing
 
Also Goku in BoG never stacked SSG power with regular SSJ1-3. Because he had to obtain god-ki/perfect ki control to multiplie SSG power by 50x with SSB (SSJ) as mentioned by Whis. Whis also stated before Goku had perfect Ki control that yellow SSJ form power increase is insignificant making it the deathblow. Because you NEED perfect Ki control multiply SSG power which requires SSB. Bruuuuh
 
1. That's before U6 arc
2. That's also before U6 arc and SSG power grew stronger
3. True, but that's before the retcon
4. False in RoF his base is SSG, he doesn't go SSG. He stacks SSJ on his base SSG power and god-ki thus creating SSB.
5. DBZ Kakarot has canonical information while DBH is fan-fiction tier writing
Okay—This actually consistently bothers me. What retcon? Where in the story is this stated? Where does Goku say “I’ve temporarily lost my powers because Eto Bleh.” Even when Saiyan Beyond God “was a thing,” Toriyama said he still could go SSJ2-3, but that he “rarely would” because it was just better to use regular SSJ. At no point is there a moment where the plot is, inexplicably, rewritten. Hell, even when Toriyama said Goku never needed to go SSG again, that’s all he said. Not that he COULDN’T—Just that it was unnecessary.
 
@Veronica I do have to say that it's getting quite repetitve; you're not winning any points by bringing up the same points over and over again on the general discussion thread.
But they can't refute it the evidence other than to bringing threats against me: "I'm going to report you!". So REFUTE the FACTS
 
@Veronica I do have to say that it's getting quite repetitve; you're not winning any points by bringing up the same points over and over again on the general discussion thread.
Can we do anything about it? She keeps mentioning it over and over and can't get better, i think getting a permanent ban from DB would be good.
 
Okay—This actually consistently bothers me. What retcon? Where in the story is this stated? Where does Goku say “I’ve temporarily lost my powers because Eto Bleh.” Even when Saiyan Beyond God “was a thing,” Toriyama said he still could go SSJ2-3, but that he “rarely would” because it was just better to use regular SSJ. At no point is there a moment where the plot is, inexplicably, rewritten. Hell, even when Toriyama said Goku never needed to go SSG again, that’s all he said. Not that he COULDN’T—Just that it was unnecessary.
Because Goku going SSJ is always SSB in RoF. Frieza says go "SSJ" and Goku says "I don't need to go SSJ" and what do see its SSB, because at that time SSB is THE SSJ form. Also in DBZ Kakarot just calls it "SSJ" because Akira vision was base=SSG and SSB is the new regular SSJ form but U6 shows yellow SSJ again.
 
Okay—This actually consistently bothers me. What retcon? Where in the story is this stated? Where does Goku say “I’ve temporarily lost my powers because Eto Bleh.” Even when Saiyan Beyond God “was a thing,” Toriyama said he still could go SSJ2-3, but that he “rarely would” because it was just better to use regular SSJ. At no point is there a moment where the plot is, inexplicably, rewritten. Hell, even when Toriyama said Goku never needed to go SSG again, that’s all he said. Not that he COULDN’T—Just that it was unnecessary.
To be fair I don't think that's what is meant by a retcon here; I think they're referring to it being phased out / no longer mentioned / dropped. Not someone explicitly acknowledging it in-universe and saying they can no longer do it.
 
Because Goku going SSJ is always SSB in RoF. Frieza says go "SSJ" and Goku says "I don't need to go SSJ" and what do see its SSB, because at that time SSB is THE SSJ form. Also in DBZ Kakarot just calls it "SSJ" because Akira vision was base=SSG and SSB is the new regular SSJ form but U6 shows yellow SSJ again.
Goku not needing to use it dosen't equal it not existing anymore
 
1. That's before U6 arc
2. That's also before U6 arc and SSG power grew stronger
3. True, but that's before the retcon
4. False in RoF his base is SSG, he doesn't go SSG. He stacks SSJ on his base SSG power and god-ki thus creating SSB.
5. DBZ Kakarot has canonical information while DBH is fan-fiction tier writing
1-"That's before U6" stfu, buu safa was also before U6, does that mean it's retconed? No. You can't just say "Before U6" and expect people to agree with your dumb ass argument.
2-Same as 1, and so what if ssg power grew stronger...? Goku grows stronger all the time tf.
4-....his base isn't ssg, his base is literally his dark normal hair form, you can't be serious. Also contradicted by the fact that he can go ssj1-3 normally so your argument isn't just stupid, I literally makes zero sense. He literally stacks ssj ontop of ssg, not ontop of base form. Because if he did, he wouldn't be able to turn into ssj. Like bro, he literally goes to ssj, ssg, and then ssb.
5- idgaf, bring up arguments from the Canon.
 
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