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That's literally what you believe
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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No it dosen't
The statements you provided don't do that
Goku saying he dosen't need SSJ infact implies they are separate transformations
Fezzih_007
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And it gets "contradicted" literally by...the next ******* arc, and the next ******* arc, the next ******* arc, the next ******* movie, the next ******* movie
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They don't even say that /: idk how she's getting that interpretation
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What we believe is that goku got as strong as ssg in his base form via : Absorbing ssg power and preforming same/better feat than ssg.That's literally what you believe
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Can we do something? Like, i am very sure they were warned beforehand for spamming the general discussion thread with this topic before
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Than he goes SSJ when Frieza asked him and what do we see? SSJ version of SSG not (SSB) not yellow SSJ.
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Yes, he had that power in base in RoF. Explain to me how Goku has two SSG power when the source of power is the same?
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That's because it got retconned in U6 arc. SSB is there shown as a seperate transformation than as regular SSJ.
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In that case then…like…why would that matter? Even if it’s phased out OOC, that doesn’t affect Canon. Like, it’s not even a valid way to go over powerscaling material. Especially since the method being questioned is the one that is explicitly noted to a permanent change to their base power level (without affecting you in any other conceivable way).
Also, I want to point out that even in the Anime, they use the RoF explanation verbatim in the Copy Vegeta Arc. So it’s straight up just not dropped-At least not until then.
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Again. No one liked this and it wa sclowned on for months when it came up
But it's true, and just has to be accepted
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Copy Vegeta arc is based on RoF abandoned concept of SSG power in base.
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I see no evidence they were ever the same form. You really haven't shown anything other then goku using a better transformation then what frezia asked form
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I'm neutral on the topic (especially since it's not even a CRT), just wanted to point out that point.
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Frieza has no clue what the Hell a SSB is. He literally just expected Goku to go blonde. Goku’s response to that you can interpret however, but Frieza is absolutely NOT a valid source.
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It's not a better transformation it's GOING SSJ ON TOP OF BASE SSG ALWAYS CREATING Blue. Meaning YELLOW SSJ Isn't 50x SSG because IT WILL ALWAYS TURN BLUE.
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I'll explain it in the most simple way possible.
Goku has super saiyan, and super saiyan form is 50x stronger than base form.
Goku trained to be stronger by 50x, now goku in base as strong as he was super saiyan. Does that mean goku can't use super saiyan? Obviously no.
That's what ssb and ssg entire situation is.
Goku got as strong as super saiyan god in base, and now he can use also super saiyan god multiplier ontop of base.
I don't know how much simpler can I explain it.
And ssb is literally a saiyan with the power of super saiyan god as a super saiyan. Hence the funking name of "Super saiyan god Super saiyan." He literally stated on screen.
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Man, you can say anything about Veronica, but you can't deny she atleast follow Goku ways of never giving up.
No matter time she is shot down, she keeps getting up to fight, what a anime protagonist!
No matter time she is shot down, she keeps getting up to fight, what a anime protagonist!
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That's because SSB is just called SSJ it's later called SSB. So when he goes SSJ its "SSB" in later understanding when in RoF it's just regular SSJ
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Ulike goku, she gets a reverse Zenkai
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also has the same level of intelligence as DBS Goku and I’m not talking combat intelligence
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Probably because of this tbf lol.
- Do not attempt to downgrade Goku from 2-C with the argument that he didn't maintain the power of Super Saiyan God; the evidence makes clear that he did, and downgrade attempts have been repeatedly rejected.
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You believe in fan-fiction nonsense not me.
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oh no that didn’t stop her from making 4 different threads on it and then making a thread on the rule itself lmao
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Because it's factualy wrong. You have to correct fan-fiction nonsense like that.
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Sometimes I wonder if even you know what are you even arguing about.
Please tell me what am about to say is correct or not, and think carefully.
1-Goku can use ssg, which makes him thousands of times stronger.
2-Goku in B.o.G got thousands of times stronger to the point that he was as strong as when he first used ssg. Thus, if he turns ssg he'll get stronger.
3-SSB is just using ssj ontop of ssg.
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You’re using evidence from games you donut don’t kid yourself
Also all of your CRTs failed you get clowned on every time you run your mouth.
seriously where do you get this kind of confidence in your own incompetence?
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I don't see what evidence your using to say that.
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She's like Mr.satan, believing in her own hype.You’re using evidence from games you donut don’t kid yourself
Also your CRTs failed you get clowned on every time you run your mouth.
seriously where do you get this kind of confidence in your own incompetence?
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You know if the argument is that DBZ Kakarot has canonical information, doesn't that also retroactively canonize Xenoverse and Heroes? Mira and Towa appear post Kid Buu fight in DBZ Kakarot and you even fight the former before they flee, and it's made clear that it's the same Towa and Mira from after Xenoverse 1 but before Xenoverse 2 which would therefore mean that DBZ Kakarot is a timeline in the Heroes/Xenoverse multiverse.
And given that there are other pieces of evidence which state that Super and Heroes are canon to each other, just being separated worlds/timelines per various sources of information, then Heroes and Xenoverse should be canon like Kakarot is. But that's just my two cents anyway, I really don't understand how shit can be going on for pages at a time over ONE single argument
And given that there are other pieces of evidence which state that Super and Heroes are canon to each other, just being separated worlds/timelines per various sources of information, then Heroes and Xenoverse should be canon like Kakarot is. But that's just my two cents anyway, I really don't understand how shit can be going on for pages at a time over ONE single argument
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O ya it's gona be exciting
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SSB is just going SSJ on SSG with perfect ki control and he lost base SSG power, because he has yellow SSJ
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At least satan knows he’s a fraud. she genuinely thinks after getting clowned on by literally everyone here for her sh**ty arguments that she’s still right
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You know nothing about DBS don't tag me anymore
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I still don't see what your using to support that conclusion
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No as long as your talking in this thread I'll feel free to reply
