Dragon Ball Heroes/Xenoverse Revision (2-A)

[Sevestus]

^

That was meant for Julian's response lmao.

 

[Ionliosite]

Xenoverse actually has a 2-A statement

Which one? Because the one on the OP is literally just more of the "Many World Theory" stuff, which is 2-B.

 

[Clovus]

Oof

 

[Giygas3]

This sums up everything.

I do agree with the upgrades though.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Which one? Because the one on the OP is literally just more of the "Many World Theory" stuff, which is 2-B.

The English statement is a mistranslation. And no , the japanese one is a 2-A statement. It says "limitless/infinite branches (there's the Mugen Kanji)" or "Infinitely branched" (which doesn't mean infinitely branching)

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Pretty much what Ottavio said. The multiverse is infnitely branched out, not infinitely branching continuously, as we previously believed.

 

[Ionliosite]

Which one? Because the one on the OP is literally just more of the "Many World Theory" stuff, which is 2-B.

The English statement is a mistranslation. And no , the japanese one is a 2-A statement. It says "limitless/infinite branches (there's the Mugen Kanji)" or "Infinitely branched" (which doesn't mean infinitely branching)

Again, that's Many Worlds Theory, worlds that branch ad infinitum, which is 2-B.

 

[Antvasima]

This thread is getting spammed with too many posts.

Since the suggestion has been accepted, all that really needs to be done is for Kepekley23 to copy-paste his first post into a blog, the staff members here to mention in it that they accept the revision, and for Kep to apply the changes to the Xeno characters.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I guess that makes sense.

 

[Sevestus]

Sounds good.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Which one? Because the one on the OP is literally just more of the "Many World Theory" stuff, which is 2-B.

The English statement is a mistranslation. And no , the japanese one is a 2-A statement. It says "limitless/infinite branches (there's the Mugen Kanji)" or "Infinitely branched" (which doesn't mean infinitely branching)
Again, that's Many Worlds Theory, worlds that branch ad infinitum, which is 2-B.
Branching ad infinitum means "infinitely branching", aka a multiverse that is continuosly branching aka where its worlds are continuosly created. This is 2-B

Branched ad infinitum means "Infinitely branched", aka a multiverse that is already branched into infinite worlds. This is 2-A

Xenoverse/Heroes is both. A multiverse that is already branched into infinite worlds and that is also continuosly branching. Aka still 2-A

 

[Eganergo]

Does the Japanese even uses tenses?

 

[Ionliosite]

Does the Japanese even uses tenses?

Actually, yes, but they're not like the English ones.

 

[Giygas3]

@Ionliosite

It's referred to as the MWI, not Multiple World Theory. And, to be noted, they're not even branches going off. In MWI, the Wave Function is the reality, and well, they're only one wave function, and it doesn't split. When people refer to as different, "worlds", at least, the 'appearence' of which, they mean that you're picking out particular terms in the wave function in some chosen basis.

What Dragon ball has going on isn't really that, and isn't contained in any way to it. Thus, it certainly allowed for Infinite Amount of worlds, because well, it quite literally states that they're an infinite amount of alternative Universes.

 

[Starsprite53]

My 2-A boi goku is happening? btw

 

[Everything12]

That picture is wrong in that instead of playing along with Xeno Goku, Archie Sonic will instead be stomping him

 

[Badrimoine2019]

Strange because if this was true than Ben 10 cosmology would already be 2-A

 

[Sevestus]

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Everything12"]
That picture is wrong in that instead of playing along with Xeno Goku, Archie Sonic will instead be stomping him

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Why is everyone focusing on Xeno Goku though? We still have some pretty strong ass characters like Fu and Mechikabura. Also I'm pretty sure FateHax is getting removed from Archie Sonic sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

 

[Starsprite53]

That picture is wrong in that instead of playing along with Xeno Goku, Archie Sonic will instead be stomping him

I can argue that Arceus and Mario Outhax xeno goku

 

[Planck69]

Strange because if this was true than Ben 10 cosmology would already be 2-A

Drop it. That was already discussed to death and is nowhere near as blatant as this.

 

[Everything12]

Not hard to argue, 2-A doesn't suddenly let them hit a Abstract Existence Type 1 or resist Resistance Negating Power Absorption

Also what's this about the Fate Hax being removed? I might not like it either but I read the Comics and the way Mogul talked about Sonic wins it seemed to be a clear cut thing that exists.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Also I'm pretty sure FateHax is getting removed from Archie Sonic sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Pretty sure that was rejected.

 

[Elizhaa]

Pretty sure that was rejected.

No, it is not; the thread didn't get concluded. This topic is best save for another thread.

 

[Antvasima]

I would appreciate if people could stop spamming here. That is the reason for why these types of controversial revisions should preferably be staff only.

 

[AKM sama]

Stay on topic. Don't fill the thread with stuff that's not relevant to this revision.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Ant

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Pretty sure that was rejected.

No, it is not; the thread didn't get concluded. This topic is best save for another thread.
I'm pretty sure that the OP of that thread request to leave it opened. The thread was supposed to be closed.

Edit: Alright, I'm sorry. I'll stop.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Actually yeah, infinitely branched would imply it is already done. Yeah seems fine.

 

[GyroNutz]

2-A + scaling chain without "At least" can be fine.

This sums up my opinion.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Okay. Now the only thing to do is posting this on a blog post, right?

@Antvasima Would it be better if an admin posts this on a blog post?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Safe to say I agree with Ant and AKM. I know you guys are excited and all, but keep these types of conversations for later.

@Ottavio

I think Ant wanted Kep to post the blog.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

"Branched out" is past tense so it's 2-A yes.

 

[Kepekley23]

I don't disagree i just want to ask about something:

History is infinitely branched out

Why did you use this as evidence for 2-A? If something is branched out infinitely it just means it...well....keeps on branching to no end. So it just keeps on growing endlessly. That is just 2-B.

Boi, read the OP more closely. I already explained why it isn't 2-B. That statement suggests there are infinite possible paths that history can take, and then another character confirms that there is a timeline for every possibility. If there are infinite possibilities and you have a timeline for each one of them, that's 2-A by default.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

infinitely branched would imply it is already done.
"Branched out" is past tense so it's 2-A
"infinitely branching", aka a multiverse that is continuosly branching aka where its worlds are continuosly created. This is 2-B

"Infinitely branched out", aka a multiverse that is already branched into infinite worlds. This is 2-A

Xenoverse/Heroes is both. A multiverse that is already branched into infinite worlds and that is also continuosly branching. Aka still 2-A

 

[Kepekley23]

It's two statements; one to scale Heroes and the other to scale Xenoverse

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

^^

The Xenoverse one also scales to Heroes (that doesn't negate the Heroes one btw)

Xenoverse is canon to Heroes

 

[Antvasima]

Are you willing to post this as a blog and apply the changes to the Xeno DB profiles Kep?

 

[Kepekley23]

Yeah, I'll write up a blog.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So does this means that anyone who currently scale to 2-B would become 2-A now?