Dragon Ball Heroes hit 2-A!

[AKM sama]

Anyway, this thread reminds me of "DB will never get out of solar system level" and "multiverse level is too complex for DB" arguments back before Super.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yeah, lol.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

.... @AKM .... Whelp are you willing to make a CRT based on that premise ?

 

[MYHERO]

Anyway, this thread reminds me of "DB will never get out of solar system level" and "multiverse level is too complex for DB" arguments back before Super.

Again, I never understood why people said that. It seems really plausible for that to happen.

 

[AKM sama]

.... @AKM .... Whelp are you willing to make a CRT based on that premise ?

Brought it up a few times on that revision thread but got no answer. Neither care enough nor have the time to get involved in a storm right now.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

People either generally or they think we're _wanking_ them just because it's Dragon Ball. Whether you have a different opinion, different view, or even many different ways to scale a character, you're still a wanker amirite.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Literally in world mission they used history and existence as one in the same in the same sentence.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I agree. Even in XV history refers to the totality of everything so that shouldn't be an argument if you played the games or at least are aware of the lore of the verse.

 

[Ss3micah]

The INCREDIBLE power of Xeno Goku

 

[Ss3micah]

The INCREDIBLE power of Xeno Goku

this video not just shows and explains why goku showed definately be at tier 2A but should most likely be beyond it

that is unless anyone can produce any contradictory argument

 

[MYHERO]

It has been discussed time and time again, and was rejected by Vs Battle Wiki. Go to the Son Goku (Xeno) categories if you want to catch up on those CRTs.

 

[Ss3micah]

It has been discussed time and time again, and was rejected by Vs Battle Wiki. Go to the Son Goku (Xeno) categories if you want to catch up on those CRTs.

REJECTED

YOU CANT BE SERIOUS

 

[MYHERO]

Yup. Sorry pal.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

What is their argument for disputing 2-A's?

 

[MYHERO]

Yes

 

[MYHERO]

Sorry I thought you asked "Wait their is argument for disputing 2-A's?"

Go check the category for Xeno Goku and you will see the CRTs. It might take some time digging. But no pain no gain.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It comes from the "history can end up taking an infinite number of paths" quote.

This however only implies that infinite possibilities can be created, not that they already exist. Finite but expanding endlessly is 2-B since it will never truly reach infinity.

 

[MYHERO]

GER negs Goku for ever reaching 2-A

 

[DragonEmperor23]

It didn't work for 2-B, 2-C, Low 2-C, High 3-A, or 3-A.

 

[MYHERO]

That was before the anime adapation you fool

 

[DragonEmperor23]

So what you're saying is, DBH anime will make them jump four tiers?

 

[MYHERO]

I think we are on separate wave lengths here, because I was referring to Part 5

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I concur.

 

[MYHERO]

That is everyone's reaction to this thread someway or another tbh ^

 

[SSBXeno573]

As someone who speaks Spanish as their native language, I've played the DB games in Spanish. As for BT3, the narrator states that Goku only went to one possible world and that there exist infinite. This is further proven by the japanese version's use of the word þäíÚÖÉ (Mugen) which directly translates to infinite.

In Xenoverse, Fu states that History is formed from a vast network of infinite events"

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

While I do see budokai as legitimate, I'm not sure if infinite events correlates to infinite timelines.

 

[SSBXeno573]

I brought up the Xenoverse thing since we currently use Many-Worlds interpretation for DBX. As a result, infinite events should correlate to infinite timelines on the basis of Many World theory.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Hmm.... Okay.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

bump

 

[Asdsaaaaaadasdq]

Hmm.... Okay.

why don't they change xeno goku to 2-A

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3725016

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

The reason is because its explicitly stated that new timelines are born from changes in history, meaning that there will never be infinite amounts of realities. Something like Fate has an infinite amount of realities for every moment.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

@The Causality Which I would still contest as Dialga can just turn Goku into an old man and Goku wouldn't multiverse bust in-character.

Xeno Goku in character can kill his enemies if necessary like vegeta which is why in his fight with CC Goku he immediately went to SSJ4 and launched a Kamehameha. Xeno Goku does not like wasting time.

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

btw why aren't their any Xeno Fusions profiles?

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

why aren't there more Xeno profiles?

 

[AwkguyDB]

I agree there should be more profiles

Xeno Trunks

Xeno Gogeta and Xeno Vegito

Possibly CC Goku and Vegeta due to scaling to their Xeno selves.

DBH Cooler

Beat

to name a few at least

 

[AwkguyDB]

Some of these characters scale higher into 2-B than many of the current DB 2-Bs we have.

 

[Ionliosite]

I made Xeno Dabura profile, but it got deleted and I was never told why.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

World Mission SSB Beat for example in a whole different level than SSJ4 Xeno Goku

 

[DragonEmperor23]

The Dabura profile probably got deleted for just being a higher tiered version of Dabura, but a Beat profile and ones for any other DBH original characters would be a good idea.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Beat and Xeno Trunks I'm shocked to not see have their own profile.