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I will summarize why xeno goku is above 2-B
extra dimensional hum
Theory of World Quantum Mechanics, where "many different futures are created in the smallest things."
https://imgur.com/a/0FNKN
also based on the theory of the universe in bubbles that say the universes spread infinitely
If you have ever played Xenoverse 2, you know that at the end of the game it is revealed to the player that the Bardock and Mira fight has broken every timeline ... if you don't know there are endless timelines and every single line. of time there are universes. This feat does anything in Dragon Ball Super, a child's play.
https://pm1.narvii.com/6771/d881abd5a2b8d800b7c8ebc3371677e3f88d036dv2_hq.jpg
as we know demigran destroys the dragonball multiverse and more
https://i.imgur.com/kn71C7h.png
https://i.imgur.com/SCneV73.png
https://i.imgur.com/3a7NZ8i.png
https://i.imgur.com/OLmE8pW.png
https://i.imgur.com/Yx2RRzM.png
https://i.imgur.com/bsxVmVL.jpg
overcoming time / space again and controlling it
The Kingdom of Demons is out of time
https://imgur.com/a/0nxM2
Not part of the story
The kingdom of demons is out of the flow of time
let's get started let's start with the knowledge of Dragon Ball cosmology
the universe 7 macrocosm is a (low) multiverse size structure.
Multi-Universe = (low) Multiverse
The difference is a general space-time continuum contained in a selection of space and time, which conditions itself as a universe. This is important because most fans overlook these fundamentals when talking about Dragonball.
Making this mistake is like stating that the DC Universe has only 52 universes.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/f7d8459cd5fc6ad45396d9c8a6271a3fa18bf139r1-1024-776v2_hq.jpg
Macrocosm = Macro + Kosm from Latin.
Macro = Greater Kosm = Cosmos
For starters, we have 2 universes larger than the observables.
Living World = Universe (Our World)
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/016efd0c098f32c579cc12f34881baeb1045c717r1-875-1024v2_hq.jpg
Note that it is part of the world of the living.
Hmmm, infinitely? Is it really endless?
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/cd0fad7ee16be9bd7dcd99ae3709be6766e3d643r1-1024-413v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/944737190e16d8516be5c136da41ffdee131b437r1-1024-488v2_hq.jpg
yes
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/20eef67a2dd62cc5ceb0d74e45fcf373d2842cb1r1-1665-260v2_hq.jpg
This is described as the living world with its four cardinal quadrants.
These two universes / dimensions with universal size are like the ends of another coin. They are like two subfolders within a Larger Folder called "The Living World" where the creatures live.
The living world
õ©û Òü« õ©û / konoyo
Translation: this world (in contrast to "this world", the afterlife)
"The world of the living is the lower half of the macrocosm. In contrast to the transparent crystalline dome that covers the afterlife. The upper half is the universe, overseen by the Kaio and Kaioshin." , and works according to science (or what happens in the world of DB). The bottom half is the Demon Kingdom, where magic has more influence than science and where the evil Makaio and Makaioshin are gods. "
The universe is like ours, and the world of demons is opposite in its own dimension.
There are 2 Universes in a World so far - some may argue that it has the same timeline and only separates space walls, being only the Universe + or the High Universal.
LIFE AFTER DEATH
Where people die and rise.
"According to Goku, time does not exist in the afterlife."
(Does not flow the same way)
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/8fb88d4558c3ec68231203388f83a90117793ef9r1-1546-258v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/a8a0c36b03fa7ed1388783439eb3d86aeac116b0r1-515-545v2_hq.jpg
But is there more evidence that it has its own spacetime?
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/670a3e70003a8e1e526df95f3d90a643c5d20a43r1-1545-205v2_hq.jpg
Yes! Because only teleportation or special abilities can travel there.
Toriyama even confirms that After life is separated:
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/58c443a9615036dda0d44fdda6c0db72d9fc21ddr1-837-191v2_hq.jpg
"The big central ball has" worlds "called the living world and the afterlife, and Kaioshin oversees them from the outside."
POST-LIFE SIZE?
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/f9abe50625053b60f2b7a5195e2fb2c65708e410r1-1024-743v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/4af4ec8cff20f9c7d6bd088887fd33e745efb573r1-1024-453v2_hq.jpg
Important! The sky may be universal and have a multi-galactic planet + star size, but remember ... The central kingdom of Daioh Palace is not to scale, but HELL being the bottom of the sphere probably equals the size of the planet. heaven:
"The sections of the afterlife
Daizenshuu 7 divides the afterlife into three difficult areas, plus the Kaioshin kingdom: the bottom third is hell, ruled by Enma Daio. The middle third is Enma's Kingdom, also ruled by Enma, and consists of Enma's Palace, Serpent Road and Afterlife Airport. So the upper third is the Kaio Kingdom, ruled by the Dai-Kaio, and consists of the 4 Kaios plants, the Sky and the Dai-Kaio planet. Finally, there is the Kaioshin kingdom, ruled by the Dai-Kaioshin, which is located outside the macrocosm. "
Verdict for the afterlife
It's a big independent multi-universal construct, but still probably just under Universe +, although hell has an invisible wall:
in the mortal universe there are infinite galaxies https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1127170
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/6a0f3aedb22eb45ff354e2dd6e5ff3787d3a50ebr1-1026-768v2_hq.jpg
This means if Universe + Demon World + Afterlife (Heaven + Hell), In raw Size the realm is likely 4/40 or 0.4x the size of the universe.
Rebuttal: Claiming "NOT QUANTIFIABLE SIZE", is a fallacy as we already know Heaven, Universe, and Demon world are all universal in size, and thus we still have two constructs that are separated via time flow/space-time and therefore quantifies as:
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Clarifying 2 Feats:
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/cbe822a2ccf3b23892fdaa304ab636981a655b9dr1-989-567v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/a013078270f2ee5167c2d1365f0ea396864a0d56r1-1024-577v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/46e6950ddf32906080836ef3c74cb49f363024bfr1-600-343v2_hq.jpg
This proves that the "HAX" of Buuhan's rage was enough to be quantified as a Low-Multiversal level attack through chain reaction.
Now I'm not going to quantify the 5-dimensional axis between Universes (As the Afterlife doesn't have time)
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f43f3f7d5a941ae5966b06412a37bdaa2d9797c3r1-400-67v2_hq.jpg
From the Vs Battle Wiki
Also, destructive capability = / = range of motion = / = being dimensional.
A BEING
An example of a 4th dimensional being / that does not have a three-dimensional body but an abstract 4th dimensional existence across the entire timeline + sp
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/16d77dabc29202c418c47836d22edab0d735c362r1-455-323v2_hq.jpg
B. Destructive Capacity
Destroying all three dimensional matter and fourth dimensional spatial motio
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/3e7814c9ce3841619c913d710099b3ffe38d8877r1-480-360v2_hq.jpg
C. Range of Motion
Being able to move on a temporal axis even though your physical body exists on a three dimensional plane. Goku and Vegeta survived out of time - but still
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/e691e1484da36f02d9342a70641e44cd8d36a19cr1-853-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/88403c2291a73bbf25b0c01c762a7d170390caa1r1-800-450v2_hq.jpg
There are 12 other macrocosms
As we all know, they don't all share the same spacetime: timeline ...
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/94c19f851dedd6bf0d53718773503d1f9f174f0ar1-515-545v2_hq.jpg
they share the same timeline.
Timeline = / = 4th dimension for some fictions, especially Dragon Ball. History itself exists as a parallel world. But we'll get into that later.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/6c0a1c6bac61f5340d7fd856c9463cbb8c0486cdr1-1409-793v2_hq.jpg
The space between the universes; not as described by the world of Zeno.
The space between universes is on a 5-D axis.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/67fe115d757d2558d804564473de0b5df9a7e691r1-649-66v2_hq.jpg
This is crucial to understanding the later layers of the series.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/fd9babe1303de22ac206dd55b166ac29618f668ar1-649-109v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/8923ca840847c1635d09cb34f83517a90f481892r1-1200-675v2_hq.jpg
As seen in the zeno world, universes are viewed from another perspective. This world is possibly infinitely larger than the previous macrocosm
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/587c15670a57aa44bc3a1a624626f7e6eb936068r1-1366-768v2_hq.jpg
It exists outside the multiverse and contains no time or space - but for space it is likely to refer to general 3D space / matter. At least before the high priest implemented matter within the kingdom before setting rules.
Not much to say but God Toppo destroy the kingdom; demonstrating its huge 3D spatial variety being infinite. But no one destroyed the kingdom itself.
SCHEDULE / HISTORY / PARALLEL WORLDS.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d0be3f83400c04f7724ee0c69caed66df349307ar1-400-221v2_hq.jpg
This image shows that the space between the timelines would also exist on a different dimensional axis.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/02388cd8f25d7dbcbd3f5d8d8055d3c01ea115bfr1-402-308v2_hq.jpg
Pilaf is probably referring to temporal / spatial dimensions in this context.
The time machine does not travel in time but out of time in parallel worlds. The space between the timelines.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/00ee7b35fc0b3b58b05ac666a64c41435951c343r1-400-202v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/b4a8daa72ec7447cae3d40e6b158844c86c0454cr1-305-383v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/328ce6032eaf195fb697645e1947b8b2bbd2c3aar1-670-461v2_hq.jpg
Parallel worlds are schedules
Dragon Ball has what I like to call
SUPER TIME! Because they already have separate spacetime continuos, it's fiction and not everything aligns with the vs battle algorithm.
The story is endless
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/40a080a9a1045434834736e8396add0df65ce23ar1-640-360v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/c0853c3f032a0e72c2b28162e535ffe1f163163dr1-619-408v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/86abc295c8773ba1408e07c976e3e427ff1ee60br1-808-738v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/6692/abf5d609ad6ed007ac688e7ecb3b99ed521f9245_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/6692/154660bfdac1ecf343a5bd30d6f6684c018612b2_hq.jpg
Demigra can create and destroy infinite timelines, which can be of the 4th dimension. Trans-infinite, as time and history are infinite, and past, present, and future are infinite.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/0785303c2005f74156da3a22393eabd900cc82d8r1-732-215v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/4e2cd053ffd580cffd513dd6f58c55c50c5186bcr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f03a6baa8d3d843a5f7ea585769caaf0d1d3519dr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/487572d65dca9230e5668a8f985ad450800a1073r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/39730a90b65dd1be0f37045d02167812aff083e2r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
Crack of Time is another dimension / Reality - The real totality of the 5th dimension and the Multiverse.
As we know, the time machine cannot move through time.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d69e0470c8c6ab2982bd2fdadb2d95291224d74br1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/df8e967a2b0d93ef38fb15da40edfba039e39ef6r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/79eecd556a8f9a0f0cf470d62235a2454e45837dr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/e0c9a42edffa7fcd32e9a4b47ed7dfea49ad8d92r1-808-465v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f5361a0ba0032e4b3dcb48d65f20566e3727a11er1-741-160v2_hq.jpg
Hmmm ... infinite number of space time continuum in 5 dimensions?
Well, the time vault / nest is on a 5th dimension axis - and the Crack of time
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/3f76bbd65929c28c504809cae27ef51639da021ar1-1159-493v2_hq.jpg
Extra-Dimensional huh ...
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/4778da53ee7223ecaa1e5c74a1240bac9c598a7fr1-480-141v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d6a8cbdde105b13977480a5028503bbd538a8a27r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
how close is he to the 6th dimension?
Remember that Demigra can not only destroy infinite Super Timelines, but also Time Nest, Crack of Time, and recreate infinite history. How do we know?
Also, if there is an infinite "void world" for each historical piece separate from your SUPER TIME LINE. A fifth dimension building / continuum possible. Again, NO TIME ... NO SPACE, AS OUT OF TIME ... a plane that can theoretically fit Infinite 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D objects.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/55098339606f3e182190dd96bdd023e394b99dffr1-602-338v2_hq.jpg
After all, it is OUT of the Multiverse, and has no "time" or "MATTER" in its existence. "The Void World (Mu no Kai?) Is a realm without time and space."
The real world for those who haven't played the game yet is represented by "Beat". Most consider Hero to be a parallel world to the world of Dragon Ball, but the truth is that Dragon Ball Heros is just a card game. "Example, we three-dimensional beings see two-dimensional beings almost as fiction."
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/ce1c6f2b0e5ea5143e27eb7a30487a70116981fer1-1920-1080v2_hq.jpg
DBH exists, but is still separate from them.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/b62f89aa62c0985456d4b7d66f2ee83f769580c9r1-784-474v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/cd9447494d2ea022bc6b83d86153b7a3984f329cr1-1057-1518v2_hq.jpg
Not only threatened the real world, but the real world universe ...
Once again ... it's just a game for them-
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/16ed3173d7470ae291e9c31aba8da99c4a9ca346r1-1057-1518v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/31bf6b388e45fb10440a198206e479e44970584dr1-500-336v2_hq.jpg
Again, we always have the argument that Demigra is beyond all space - and all time. We know they can exist within space that doesn't exist, but again:
but not only that we also know that there are infinite Scroll of Eternity scrolls descriptio
This ... is the Scroll of Eternity. All the time ... the whole story. Everything ... Everything is listed here. But ... here, just take a look at it. As you can see ... if history ... is in any way altered or distorted ... it can change the world as we know it. We have no choice. We have to stop this ... We can't let history change. "
- Trunks: Xeno explaining the nature of time scrolls to the future warrior in Dragon Ball Xenoverse
If you are wondering why we use a time machine to enter Parallel Missions, but scroll to other missions, let me tell you. This is because the history of Parallel Missions is different from the history stored in Time Vault. It may be easier to understand if you think of it as a bunch of digressions and sidebars that came out of the main story. The long and short is that we can't access this story using the scrolls, using a time machine. "
- Namekian Time Patroller Skid explaining the difference between original and parallel timelines in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
In the saga of infinite history, it is revealed by Chronoa and Fu that the Time Cracks the Patrol is investigating are not connected to recorded history, so changing history within the slit timeline is technically safe and Chronoa itself comes close. to suggest that they could safely change history
are like umineko fragments
The Kingdom of Demons is out of time
https://imgur.com/a/0nxM2
Not part of the story
The kingdom of demons is out of the flow of time
Dragon Ball Heroes. It is explained that the Demon Kingdom exists apart from time, history and the flow of time. Demonic gods are born and live there.
that is beyond history so xeno goku can destroy buildings outside of history
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Scroll_of_Eternity
Chronoa says all possibilities are overflowing.
https://imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470313908281016320/609992000988643348/img.jpg
moved a space beyond time
https://imgur.com/a/6Vcla
"Dimensional Doors"
https://imgur.com/a/6Vcla
transcending into the real world, it is known as overcoming the barrier between
https://imgur.com/a/pmetAdV
https://imgur.com/gallery/CTC2f
Comparable to Demon God Salsa, who literally played Ultimate Mission X and sees it as mere fiction.
https://imgur.com/a/YETYxpq
when the number of worlds and existing possibilities has been indicated to be infinite on several occasions
https://imgur.com/a/3UUOU
https://imgur.com/8m0P6rp
https://imgur.com/P82loZ4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430466899957121025/563881657892077568/20190405_202357.jpg
demigram could
Larger Manipulation and Void Manipulation (Created a nonexistent castle and connected that castle to Crack of Time, which is a 4th dimensional space)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...06385664/Screenshot_2017-10-10-08-19-54-1.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...42921472/Screenshot_2017-10-22-10-21-24-1.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...38197282/Screenshot_2017-10-22-10-20-20-1.png
https://imgur.com/a/r5dEe
https://imgur.com/a/IFvoq
https://imgur.com/GA9ntLd
Heroes is actually a direct continuation of Xenoverse. This is because Demigra's death from Xenoverse is mentioned in Heroes. DBH also encompasses most, if not all other game franchises. Surprisingly, it also encompasses One Piece, Neko Majin and not surprisingly Doctor Slump. What's more intriguing, is that it is hinted the chrono trigger verse [Which Tori-Bot is the supreme being off] is also a small part of Dragon Ball Heroes as it appeared in Dr.Slump. This would mean that statements and lore can be taken from those games and applied to Heroes. Proof:
Dragon Ball 4D with God Broly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhjd1i6Zuk0
Dragon Ball Minus and other stuff
https://youtu.be/vl-TA84ijHg?t=83
https://imgur.com/a/Xi3O1
Dragon Ball Z Extreme Butoden (DBHUM2 is referring to SSJ4 Broly crossing from DBH to DBZEB)
https://imgur.com/a/ZYA6x
Dragon Ball Fusions
https://imgur.com/a/PpK21
Kuriza in DBH
https://imgur.com/a/k7Lqm
Neko Majin Z
https://youtu.be/8AqumRLIUdk?t=409
Dokkan in Xenoverse in Heroes
https://imgur.com/a/iDEfv
DBS Manga and Yamcha reincarnation spin off in DBH
https://imgur.com/a/FbHyp
DB Fighter Z part of Xenoverse which is part of heroes and Dokkan
https://imgur.com/a/QXPel
Limit Break x Survivor singer (one who sings the DBS theme)
https://imgur.com/a/yoRgG
Shin Budokai implied part of it (Babidi Buu is directly taken from Shin Budokai)
https://imgur.com/a/fZPzY
Chrono Trigger (It has appeared in Dr.Slump, which is in the DBH Multiverse)
So as you can see the Heroes multiverse is already massive. Now, what can we gain from knowing the games are connected. Well in Xenoverse:
https://imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
It is directly stated that History can take up an infinite number of paths or possibilities and you lose track of which the correct version is supposed to be Now, history actually refers to timelines.
https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/DqCgfUtHyC7
In fact, in Xenoverse, 16 implies that the possibilities already exist, by saying that the history they are in is 1 possibility, and the others have timelines:
https://imgur.com/a/pUqnM
https://imgur.com/a/0OaB3
As you can see here, even the next package is called the "Infinite Story Pack", which actually also goes back to the time when the story's statement of pattrolers is infinite.
https://imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
In Shin Budokai, Cell states that there are infinite worlds, which means timelines. The debunk is why Cell doesn't know what he's talking about. However, Cell is created with the goal of being the perfect being. He is incredibly intelligent and has traveled back in time. In Shin Budokai, your goal is to destroy parallel worlds. Why would he be so confident if he didn't know much? The game's producers wouldn't have made it say if it weren't true. And "He's not an authority figure" is as much as a takedown. "Oh. Cell just stated that it can destroy the Solar System, doesn't mean that it can."
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/DragonBallOnline
In Dragon Ball online, there are "infinite timelines semmingly", so .... yes.
https://imgur.com/a/0FNKN
In fact, even in the DBZ manga, there is an implication of infinite timelines by Trunks. This also looks very similar to the Xenoverse pattroler statement. The funny thing is that some people ... accept this as likely infinite timelines, but it was "Retconed" on Super, which didn't happen. In fact, it is proved when Beerus kills Zamasu.
Now we can go beyond infinite timelines to higher dimensions like the crack of time and the "real world"
https://imgur.com/a/GheOg
Crack of Time is said to be an enclosed space separate from the dimension of time.
https://imgur.com/a/Y7vLv
The "real world" is a different dimension / world (Multiverse)
https://imgur.com/gallery/znxtw
https://imgur.com/0cZ2Dpe
Demigra rules all the time and space. Once again, Multiversal +
Beerus can destroy the whole dimension of time, all history, everything
http://imgur.com/mw6WwOP
http://imgur.com/HQndtfE
http://i.imgur.com/7LxXCWp.png
http://i.imgur.com/ISqwcQ6.png
http://i.imgur.com/lGbUFVC.png
Low complex multiversal (if you accept that CoT is a higher dimension. Which is, but whatever)
https://imgur.com/gallery/CTC2f
https://imgur.com/a/lTx9p
Chamel gained power from Demigra, and only with his presence would the multiverse, the crack of time, and the "real world," once again a feat of low multiversal complex.
https://imgur.com/a/olzdU
If we summarize this as a 7th dimensional world, being infinitely taller than Dragon Ball Heroes World + One piece; But some argue Real World = 12 Spatial Dimensions / M-theory.
Establishing this is the real world.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/21ae62499d304c6afa9f4bf6cf46371db99dd7a7r1-1063-538v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/45fe75fc12b6826961fbb95a0a0c35a2e7c592bar1-400-225v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/a45dbe5e586e33b1fb99fdac7f8e8015edeaf702r1-1074-527v2_hq.jpg
Ok, but how impressive is that?
https://imgur.com/a/lhxYeiB
The idea is that God Broly was so strong that he required Son-Goku to completely break the fourth wall and interact with the audience. Since this is a live event, it means "You" + "Me" as in real viewers. (After all, he has no difficulty Broly just merging with the girl Similar to Como:
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/7b43d773928473adaf5335406e9bb1562595d372r1-739-229v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/7622d80f1cb873dcd747116836e3bf551dc6c779r1-681-1024v2_hq.jpg
extra dimensional hum
Theory of World Quantum Mechanics, where "many different futures are created in the smallest things."
https://imgur.com/a/0FNKN
also based on the theory of the universe in bubbles that say the universes spread infinitely
If you have ever played Xenoverse 2, you know that at the end of the game it is revealed to the player that the Bardock and Mira fight has broken every timeline ... if you don't know there are endless timelines and every single line. of time there are universes. This feat does anything in Dragon Ball Super, a child's play.
https://pm1.narvii.com/6771/d881abd5a2b8d800b7c8ebc3371677e3f88d036dv2_hq.jpg
as we know demigran destroys the dragonball multiverse and more
https://i.imgur.com/kn71C7h.png
https://i.imgur.com/SCneV73.png
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overcoming time / space again and controlling it
The Kingdom of Demons is out of time
https://imgur.com/a/0nxM2
Not part of the story
The kingdom of demons is out of the flow of time
let's get started let's start with the knowledge of Dragon Ball cosmology
the universe 7 macrocosm is a (low) multiverse size structure.
Multi-Universe = (low) Multiverse
The difference is a general space-time continuum contained in a selection of space and time, which conditions itself as a universe. This is important because most fans overlook these fundamentals when talking about Dragonball.
Making this mistake is like stating that the DC Universe has only 52 universes.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/f7d8459cd5fc6ad45396d9c8a6271a3fa18bf139r1-1024-776v2_hq.jpg
Macrocosm = Macro + Kosm from Latin.
Macro = Greater Kosm = Cosmos
For starters, we have 2 universes larger than the observables.
Living World = Universe (Our World)
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/016efd0c098f32c579cc12f34881baeb1045c717r1-875-1024v2_hq.jpg
Note that it is part of the world of the living.
Hmmm, infinitely? Is it really endless?
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/cd0fad7ee16be9bd7dcd99ae3709be6766e3d643r1-1024-413v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/944737190e16d8516be5c136da41ffdee131b437r1-1024-488v2_hq.jpg
yes
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/20eef67a2dd62cc5ceb0d74e45fcf373d2842cb1r1-1665-260v2_hq.jpg
This is described as the living world with its four cardinal quadrants.
These two universes / dimensions with universal size are like the ends of another coin. They are like two subfolders within a Larger Folder called "The Living World" where the creatures live.
The living world
õ©û Òü« õ©û / konoyo
Translation: this world (in contrast to "this world", the afterlife)
"The world of the living is the lower half of the macrocosm. In contrast to the transparent crystalline dome that covers the afterlife. The upper half is the universe, overseen by the Kaio and Kaioshin." , and works according to science (or what happens in the world of DB). The bottom half is the Demon Kingdom, where magic has more influence than science and where the evil Makaio and Makaioshin are gods. "
The universe is like ours, and the world of demons is opposite in its own dimension.
There are 2 Universes in a World so far - some may argue that it has the same timeline and only separates space walls, being only the Universe + or the High Universal.
LIFE AFTER DEATH
Where people die and rise.
"According to Goku, time does not exist in the afterlife."
(Does not flow the same way)
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/8fb88d4558c3ec68231203388f83a90117793ef9r1-1546-258v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/a8a0c36b03fa7ed1388783439eb3d86aeac116b0r1-515-545v2_hq.jpg
But is there more evidence that it has its own spacetime?
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/670a3e70003a8e1e526df95f3d90a643c5d20a43r1-1545-205v2_hq.jpg
Yes! Because only teleportation or special abilities can travel there.
Toriyama even confirms that After life is separated:
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/58c443a9615036dda0d44fdda6c0db72d9fc21ddr1-837-191v2_hq.jpg
"The big central ball has" worlds "called the living world and the afterlife, and Kaioshin oversees them from the outside."
POST-LIFE SIZE?
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/f9abe50625053b60f2b7a5195e2fb2c65708e410r1-1024-743v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/4af4ec8cff20f9c7d6bd088887fd33e745efb573r1-1024-453v2_hq.jpg
Important! The sky may be universal and have a multi-galactic planet + star size, but remember ... The central kingdom of Daioh Palace is not to scale, but HELL being the bottom of the sphere probably equals the size of the planet. heaven:
"The sections of the afterlife
Daizenshuu 7 divides the afterlife into three difficult areas, plus the Kaioshin kingdom: the bottom third is hell, ruled by Enma Daio. The middle third is Enma's Kingdom, also ruled by Enma, and consists of Enma's Palace, Serpent Road and Afterlife Airport. So the upper third is the Kaio Kingdom, ruled by the Dai-Kaio, and consists of the 4 Kaios plants, the Sky and the Dai-Kaio planet. Finally, there is the Kaioshin kingdom, ruled by the Dai-Kaioshin, which is located outside the macrocosm. "
Verdict for the afterlife
It's a big independent multi-universal construct, but still probably just under Universe +, although hell has an invisible wall:
in the mortal universe there are infinite galaxies https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1127170
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/6a0f3aedb22eb45ff354e2dd6e5ff3787d3a50ebr1-1026-768v2_hq.jpg
This means if Universe + Demon World + Afterlife (Heaven + Hell), In raw Size the realm is likely 4/40 or 0.4x the size of the universe.
Rebuttal: Claiming "NOT QUANTIFIABLE SIZE", is a fallacy as we already know Heaven, Universe, and Demon world are all universal in size, and thus we still have two constructs that are separated via time flow/space-time and therefore quantifies as:
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Clarifying 2 Feats:
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/cbe822a2ccf3b23892fdaa304ab636981a655b9dr1-989-567v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/a013078270f2ee5167c2d1365f0ea396864a0d56r1-1024-577v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7149/46e6950ddf32906080836ef3c74cb49f363024bfr1-600-343v2_hq.jpg
This proves that the "HAX" of Buuhan's rage was enough to be quantified as a Low-Multiversal level attack through chain reaction.
Now I'm not going to quantify the 5-dimensional axis between Universes (As the Afterlife doesn't have time)
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f43f3f7d5a941ae5966b06412a37bdaa2d9797c3r1-400-67v2_hq.jpg
From the Vs Battle Wiki
Also, destructive capability = / = range of motion = / = being dimensional.
A BEING
An example of a 4th dimensional being / that does not have a three-dimensional body but an abstract 4th dimensional existence across the entire timeline + sp
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/16d77dabc29202c418c47836d22edab0d735c362r1-455-323v2_hq.jpg
B. Destructive Capacity
Destroying all three dimensional matter and fourth dimensional spatial motio
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/3e7814c9ce3841619c913d710099b3ffe38d8877r1-480-360v2_hq.jpg
C. Range of Motion
Being able to move on a temporal axis even though your physical body exists on a three dimensional plane. Goku and Vegeta survived out of time - but still
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/e691e1484da36f02d9342a70641e44cd8d36a19cr1-853-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/88403c2291a73bbf25b0c01c762a7d170390caa1r1-800-450v2_hq.jpg
There are 12 other macrocosms
As we all know, they don't all share the same spacetime: timeline ...
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/94c19f851dedd6bf0d53718773503d1f9f174f0ar1-515-545v2_hq.jpg
they share the same timeline.
Timeline = / = 4th dimension for some fictions, especially Dragon Ball. History itself exists as a parallel world. But we'll get into that later.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/6c0a1c6bac61f5340d7fd856c9463cbb8c0486cdr1-1409-793v2_hq.jpg
The space between the universes; not as described by the world of Zeno.
The space between universes is on a 5-D axis.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/67fe115d757d2558d804564473de0b5df9a7e691r1-649-66v2_hq.jpg
This is crucial to understanding the later layers of the series.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/fd9babe1303de22ac206dd55b166ac29618f668ar1-649-109v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/8923ca840847c1635d09cb34f83517a90f481892r1-1200-675v2_hq.jpg
As seen in the zeno world, universes are viewed from another perspective. This world is possibly infinitely larger than the previous macrocosm
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/587c15670a57aa44bc3a1a624626f7e6eb936068r1-1366-768v2_hq.jpg
It exists outside the multiverse and contains no time or space - but for space it is likely to refer to general 3D space / matter. At least before the high priest implemented matter within the kingdom before setting rules.
Not much to say but God Toppo destroy the kingdom; demonstrating its huge 3D spatial variety being infinite. But no one destroyed the kingdom itself.
SCHEDULE / HISTORY / PARALLEL WORLDS.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d0be3f83400c04f7724ee0c69caed66df349307ar1-400-221v2_hq.jpg
This image shows that the space between the timelines would also exist on a different dimensional axis.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/02388cd8f25d7dbcbd3f5d8d8055d3c01ea115bfr1-402-308v2_hq.jpg
Pilaf is probably referring to temporal / spatial dimensions in this context.
The time machine does not travel in time but out of time in parallel worlds. The space between the timelines.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/00ee7b35fc0b3b58b05ac666a64c41435951c343r1-400-202v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/b4a8daa72ec7447cae3d40e6b158844c86c0454cr1-305-383v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/328ce6032eaf195fb697645e1947b8b2bbd2c3aar1-670-461v2_hq.jpg
Parallel worlds are schedules
Dragon Ball has what I like to call
SUPER TIME! Because they already have separate spacetime continuos, it's fiction and not everything aligns with the vs battle algorithm.
The story is endless
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/40a080a9a1045434834736e8396add0df65ce23ar1-640-360v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/c0853c3f032a0e72c2b28162e535ffe1f163163dr1-619-408v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/86abc295c8773ba1408e07c976e3e427ff1ee60br1-808-738v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/6692/abf5d609ad6ed007ac688e7ecb3b99ed521f9245_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/6692/154660bfdac1ecf343a5bd30d6f6684c018612b2_hq.jpg
Demigra can create and destroy infinite timelines, which can be of the 4th dimension. Trans-infinite, as time and history are infinite, and past, present, and future are infinite.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/0785303c2005f74156da3a22393eabd900cc82d8r1-732-215v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/4e2cd053ffd580cffd513dd6f58c55c50c5186bcr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f03a6baa8d3d843a5f7ea585769caaf0d1d3519dr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/487572d65dca9230e5668a8f985ad450800a1073r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/39730a90b65dd1be0f37045d02167812aff083e2r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
Crack of Time is another dimension / Reality - The real totality of the 5th dimension and the Multiverse.
As we know, the time machine cannot move through time.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d69e0470c8c6ab2982bd2fdadb2d95291224d74br1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/df8e967a2b0d93ef38fb15da40edfba039e39ef6r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/79eecd556a8f9a0f0cf470d62235a2454e45837dr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/e0c9a42edffa7fcd32e9a4b47ed7dfea49ad8d92r1-808-465v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f5361a0ba0032e4b3dcb48d65f20566e3727a11er1-741-160v2_hq.jpg
Hmmm ... infinite number of space time continuum in 5 dimensions?
Well, the time vault / nest is on a 5th dimension axis - and the Crack of time
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/3f76bbd65929c28c504809cae27ef51639da021ar1-1159-493v2_hq.jpg
Extra-Dimensional huh ...
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/4778da53ee7223ecaa1e5c74a1240bac9c598a7fr1-480-141v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d6a8cbdde105b13977480a5028503bbd538a8a27r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg
how close is he to the 6th dimension?
Remember that Demigra can not only destroy infinite Super Timelines, but also Time Nest, Crack of Time, and recreate infinite history. How do we know?
Also, if there is an infinite "void world" for each historical piece separate from your SUPER TIME LINE. A fifth dimension building / continuum possible. Again, NO TIME ... NO SPACE, AS OUT OF TIME ... a plane that can theoretically fit Infinite 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D objects.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/55098339606f3e182190dd96bdd023e394b99dffr1-602-338v2_hq.jpg
After all, it is OUT of the Multiverse, and has no "time" or "MATTER" in its existence. "The Void World (Mu no Kai?) Is a realm without time and space."
The real world for those who haven't played the game yet is represented by "Beat". Most consider Hero to be a parallel world to the world of Dragon Ball, but the truth is that Dragon Ball Heros is just a card game. "Example, we three-dimensional beings see two-dimensional beings almost as fiction."
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/ce1c6f2b0e5ea5143e27eb7a30487a70116981fer1-1920-1080v2_hq.jpg
DBH exists, but is still separate from them.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/b62f89aa62c0985456d4b7d66f2ee83f769580c9r1-784-474v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/cd9447494d2ea022bc6b83d86153b7a3984f329cr1-1057-1518v2_hq.jpg
Not only threatened the real world, but the real world universe ...
Once again ... it's just a game for them-
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/16ed3173d7470ae291e9c31aba8da99c4a9ca346r1-1057-1518v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/31bf6b388e45fb10440a198206e479e44970584dr1-500-336v2_hq.jpg
Again, we always have the argument that Demigra is beyond all space - and all time. We know they can exist within space that doesn't exist, but again:
but not only that we also know that there are infinite Scroll of Eternity scrolls descriptio
This ... is the Scroll of Eternity. All the time ... the whole story. Everything ... Everything is listed here. But ... here, just take a look at it. As you can see ... if history ... is in any way altered or distorted ... it can change the world as we know it. We have no choice. We have to stop this ... We can't let history change. "
- Trunks: Xeno explaining the nature of time scrolls to the future warrior in Dragon Ball Xenoverse
If you are wondering why we use a time machine to enter Parallel Missions, but scroll to other missions, let me tell you. This is because the history of Parallel Missions is different from the history stored in Time Vault. It may be easier to understand if you think of it as a bunch of digressions and sidebars that came out of the main story. The long and short is that we can't access this story using the scrolls, using a time machine. "
- Namekian Time Patroller Skid explaining the difference between original and parallel timelines in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
In the saga of infinite history, it is revealed by Chronoa and Fu that the Time Cracks the Patrol is investigating are not connected to recorded history, so changing history within the slit timeline is technically safe and Chronoa itself comes close. to suggest that they could safely change history
are like umineko fragments
The Kingdom of Demons is out of time
https://imgur.com/a/0nxM2
Not part of the story
The kingdom of demons is out of the flow of time
Dragon Ball Heroes. It is explained that the Demon Kingdom exists apart from time, history and the flow of time. Demonic gods are born and live there.
that is beyond history so xeno goku can destroy buildings outside of history
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Scroll_of_Eternity
Chronoa says all possibilities are overflowing.
https://imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470313908281016320/609992000988643348/img.jpg
moved a space beyond time
https://imgur.com/a/6Vcla
"Dimensional Doors"
https://imgur.com/a/6Vcla
transcending into the real world, it is known as overcoming the barrier between
https://imgur.com/a/pmetAdV
https://imgur.com/gallery/CTC2f
Comparable to Demon God Salsa, who literally played Ultimate Mission X and sees it as mere fiction.
https://imgur.com/a/YETYxpq
when the number of worlds and existing possibilities has been indicated to be infinite on several occasions
https://imgur.com/a/3UUOU
https://imgur.com/8m0P6rp
https://imgur.com/P82loZ4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430466899957121025/563881657892077568/20190405_202357.jpg
demigram could
Larger Manipulation and Void Manipulation (Created a nonexistent castle and connected that castle to Crack of Time, which is a 4th dimensional space)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...06385664/Screenshot_2017-10-10-08-19-54-1.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...42921472/Screenshot_2017-10-22-10-21-24-1.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...38197282/Screenshot_2017-10-22-10-20-20-1.png
https://imgur.com/a/r5dEe
https://imgur.com/a/IFvoq
https://imgur.com/GA9ntLd
Heroes is actually a direct continuation of Xenoverse. This is because Demigra's death from Xenoverse is mentioned in Heroes. DBH also encompasses most, if not all other game franchises. Surprisingly, it also encompasses One Piece, Neko Majin and not surprisingly Doctor Slump. What's more intriguing, is that it is hinted the chrono trigger verse [Which Tori-Bot is the supreme being off] is also a small part of Dragon Ball Heroes as it appeared in Dr.Slump. This would mean that statements and lore can be taken from those games and applied to Heroes. Proof:
Dragon Ball 4D with God Broly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhjd1i6Zuk0
Dragon Ball Minus and other stuff
https://youtu.be/vl-TA84ijHg?t=83
https://imgur.com/a/Xi3O1
Dragon Ball Z Extreme Butoden (DBHUM2 is referring to SSJ4 Broly crossing from DBH to DBZEB)
https://imgur.com/a/ZYA6x
Dragon Ball Fusions
https://imgur.com/a/PpK21
Kuriza in DBH
https://imgur.com/a/k7Lqm
Neko Majin Z
https://youtu.be/8AqumRLIUdk?t=409
Dokkan in Xenoverse in Heroes
https://imgur.com/a/iDEfv
DBS Manga and Yamcha reincarnation spin off in DBH
https://imgur.com/a/FbHyp
DB Fighter Z part of Xenoverse which is part of heroes and Dokkan
https://imgur.com/a/QXPel
Limit Break x Survivor singer (one who sings the DBS theme)
https://imgur.com/a/yoRgG
Shin Budokai implied part of it (Babidi Buu is directly taken from Shin Budokai)
https://imgur.com/a/fZPzY
Chrono Trigger (It has appeared in Dr.Slump, which is in the DBH Multiverse)
So as you can see the Heroes multiverse is already massive. Now, what can we gain from knowing the games are connected. Well in Xenoverse:
https://imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
It is directly stated that History can take up an infinite number of paths or possibilities and you lose track of which the correct version is supposed to be Now, history actually refers to timelines.
https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/DqCgfUtHyC7
In fact, in Xenoverse, 16 implies that the possibilities already exist, by saying that the history they are in is 1 possibility, and the others have timelines:
https://imgur.com/a/pUqnM
https://imgur.com/a/0OaB3
As you can see here, even the next package is called the "Infinite Story Pack", which actually also goes back to the time when the story's statement of pattrolers is infinite.
https://imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
In Shin Budokai, Cell states that there are infinite worlds, which means timelines. The debunk is why Cell doesn't know what he's talking about. However, Cell is created with the goal of being the perfect being. He is incredibly intelligent and has traveled back in time. In Shin Budokai, your goal is to destroy parallel worlds. Why would he be so confident if he didn't know much? The game's producers wouldn't have made it say if it weren't true. And "He's not an authority figure" is as much as a takedown. "Oh. Cell just stated that it can destroy the Solar System, doesn't mean that it can."
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/DragonBallOnline
In Dragon Ball online, there are "infinite timelines semmingly", so .... yes.
https://imgur.com/a/0FNKN
In fact, even in the DBZ manga, there is an implication of infinite timelines by Trunks. This also looks very similar to the Xenoverse pattroler statement. The funny thing is that some people ... accept this as likely infinite timelines, but it was "Retconed" on Super, which didn't happen. In fact, it is proved when Beerus kills Zamasu.
Now we can go beyond infinite timelines to higher dimensions like the crack of time and the "real world"
https://imgur.com/a/GheOg
Crack of Time is said to be an enclosed space separate from the dimension of time.
https://imgur.com/a/Y7vLv
The "real world" is a different dimension / world (Multiverse)
https://imgur.com/gallery/znxtw
https://imgur.com/0cZ2Dpe
Demigra rules all the time and space. Once again, Multiversal +
Beerus can destroy the whole dimension of time, all history, everything
http://imgur.com/mw6WwOP
http://imgur.com/HQndtfE
http://i.imgur.com/7LxXCWp.png
http://i.imgur.com/ISqwcQ6.png
http://i.imgur.com/lGbUFVC.png
Low complex multiversal (if you accept that CoT is a higher dimension. Which is, but whatever)
https://imgur.com/gallery/CTC2f
https://imgur.com/a/lTx9p
Chamel gained power from Demigra, and only with his presence would the multiverse, the crack of time, and the "real world," once again a feat of low multiversal complex.
https://imgur.com/a/olzdU
If we summarize this as a 7th dimensional world, being infinitely taller than Dragon Ball Heroes World + One piece; But some argue Real World = 12 Spatial Dimensions / M-theory.
Establishing this is the real world.
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/21ae62499d304c6afa9f4bf6cf46371db99dd7a7r1-1063-538v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/45fe75fc12b6826961fbb95a0a0c35a2e7c592bar1-400-225v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/a45dbe5e586e33b1fb99fdac7f8e8015edeaf702r1-1074-527v2_hq.jpg
Ok, but how impressive is that?
https://imgur.com/a/lhxYeiB
The idea is that God Broly was so strong that he required Son-Goku to completely break the fourth wall and interact with the audience. Since this is a live event, it means "You" + "Me" as in real viewers. (After all, he has no difficulty Broly just merging with the girl Similar to Como:
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/7b43d773928473adaf5335406e9bb1562595d372r1-739-229v2_hq.jpg
https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/7622d80f1cb873dcd747116836e3bf551dc6c779r1-681-1024v2_hq.jpg
