Dragon Ball Games - Discussion Rule about Low 1-C

[StrymULTRA]

Alright, so the last thread on Dragon Ball Xenoverse being Low 1-C was made around a bit before the last month, and was (obviously) rejected.

And this is not even the 1st time, as we got a fuckload of 5D attempts for Xenoverse and Heroes, like here, here, here, here, here and MANY MORE and this keeps going from since I was on this site.

As such, I'd like to put the following in the Discussion Rules:

" Do not attempt to upgrade the Dragon Ball Heroes/Xenoverse cosmology to Low 1-C or higher based on the "Real World" or the Crack of Time. For the "Real World", it was established that it is not a higher dimensional universe in comparison to the multiverse but just another timeline in said multiverse due to it being an alternate version of the GT timeline. On the other hand, the Crack of Time is not an higher dimensional space either, but merely a place outside the multiverse and its time, with the crystals inside not being literal timelines, as they're comparable in size with the Future Warrior. These arguments have been discussed countless times, like here, here, here and here, and we are not willing to waste any more time regarding them. "

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Easy agree.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Agree, end those wankers.

 

[pineappleman]

It wasn't rejected, the consensus was an agree and they're currently just waiting for Ultima to comment on it.
Easy disagree.

 

[StrymULTRA]

It wasn't rejected, the consensus was an agree and they're currently just waiting for Ultima to comment on it.
Easy disagree.

The entire thing was disagreed as it does not meet the criterias, and Ultima is not coming anytime soon.

 

[pineappleman]

The entire thing was disagreed as it does not meet the criterias, and Ultima is not coming anytime soon.

Did we not read the same thread or are you just feigning ignorance?

 

[StrymULTRA]

I was not the one who closed the thread buddy.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

The entire thing was disagreed as it does not meet the criterias, and Ultima is not coming anytime soon.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Did we not read the same thread or are you just feigning ignorance?

the thread got closed, i think the argument is dead

 

[StrymULTRA]

This does not mean he is coming soon though, Ultima has been barely active in the last year too.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

It wasn't rejected, the consensus was an agree and they're currently just waiting for Ultima to comment on it.
Easy disagree.

I disagree, with the argument presented, I think that creating a rule every time a topic is created is not good at all, because soon this will generate more absurd rules, this is totally wrong, creating an absurd rule, just because you hate the verse, we should see all possible arguments, creating rules about a verse will only generate more chaos about

I'm totally against any rules imposed on the verse, depending on the arguments the verse can be updated, so it's a no, we don't create a rule just because a certain person doesn't like it verse

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

This does not mean he is coming soon though, Ultima has been barely active in the last year too.

I mean, he straight up said he didn't mind giving his input

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Did we not read the same thread or are you just feigning ignorance?

I think it's just ignorance.

 

[pineappleman]

the thread got closed, i think the argument is dead

The thread got closed from the request of the upgrade supporters only because they need Ultima to make his comment to apply the upgrade and since he's a moderator, he can open it up whenever he wishes. Please actually read the thread before making conclusions.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The thread got closed from the request of the upgrade supporters only because they need Ultima to make his comment to apply the upgrade and since he's a moderator, he can open it up whenever he wishes. Please actually read the thread before making conclusions.

Exactly!

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

The thread got closed from the request of the upgrade supporters only because they need Ultima to make his comment to apply the upgrade and since he's a moderator, he can open it up whenever he wishes. Please actually read the thread before making conclusions.

Definitely not coming anytime soon,considering the post history

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Definitely not coming anytime soon,considering the post history

Look the screenshot above.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I disagree, with the argument presented, I think that creating a rule every time a topic is created is not good at all, because soon this will generate more absurd rules, this is totally wrong, creating an absurd rule, just because you hate the verse, we should see all possible arguments, creating rules about a verse will only generate more chaos about

I'm totally against any rules imposed on the verse, depending on the arguments the verse can be updated, so it's a no, we don't create a rule just because a certain person doesn't like it verse

this isnt the first time a rule has been imposed on a specific verse or topic, though

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Look the screenshot above.

doesnt say exactly when he'll be coming back

 

[StrymULTRA]

The Low 1-C discussion rule was agreed to be put long ago if another CRT on the matter was made.

The arguments based on the Real World/Crack of time were spammed over and over, always being rejected over the years.

And besides, I've updated the rules making it ONLY about the Real World or the Crack of Time, as Heroes is still an ongoing series, so new info might come out with time.

 

[StrymULTRA]

And as another thing, y'all should stop talking as if Ultima's word is gospel. We have never relied on the words on a single teenager for a whole verse, and Ultima himself does not consider his opinions to be absolute, he removed his Consultant status for a reason.

So let's not be clingy on him and just talk this from ourselves, shall we?

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

We have never relied on the words on a single teenager for a whole verse

Damn......

 

[pineappleman]

And as another thing, y'all should stop talking as if Ultima's word is gospel. We have never relied on the words on a single teenager for a whole verse, and Ultima himself does not consider his opinions to be absolute, he removed his Consultant status for a reason.

So let's not be clingy on him and just talk this from ourselves, shall we?

Hahahah, who's words should we take as gospel then? Yours?
If you actually valued quantity over quality when it comes to votes, you'd have seen that the overwhelming majority agreed with the thread you linked and would just not have made this one

 

[StrymULTRA]

Hahahah, who's words should we take as gospel then? Yours?
If you actually valued quantity over quality when it comes to votes, you'd have seen that the overwhelming majority agreed with the thread you linked and would just not have made this one

When we talk about CRTs for Tier 1 upgrades, only Staff votes count, not regular members bro.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

That's plain rude and disrespectful Strym, lol. Mocking Ultima's age.


Anyways, it's not just Ultima, but DT aswell.
Their words aren't God's word, yeah.

However, you gotta be honest, they are more knowledgeable in the Tier 1 stuff than you, or us. Most Staff aren't that knowledgeable in the Tier 1 rating, and it's a fact some are more knowledgeable than others.

That's why whenever DT or Ultima comment, the thread gets done. That's a fact.

 

[StrymULTRA]

That's why whenever DT or Ultima comment, the thread gets done. That's a fact.

Hmmmm.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm neutral on the whole thing tbh.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Hmmmm.

And?...there are also more threads where their word ended it.

But fr....you know this, both of them are more knowledgeable than you in the tiering, and us, of course.
You know this, c'mon.

Besides, why the need of mocking Ultima's age? there are teens more mature than adults. If you don't know that, then idk know what you are thinking, fr

 

[StrymULTRA]

And?...there are also more threads where their word ended it.

Again, you already conceded on their words not being absolute. We have our heads and can think without them.

Besides, why the need of mocking Ultima's age? there are teens more mature than adults. If you don't know that, then idk know what you are thinking, fr

I never said that given he is a teenager, we must not listen to him. Just that relying so much on him for such important threads is ridiculous.

 

[pineappleman]

I'm neutral on the whole thing tbh.

The upgrade, or the attempted new rule?

 

[Reiner04]

The upgrade, or the attempted new rule?

New rule obv

 

[Quantu]

Low 1-C C.o.T or Real World will never get accepted here, might as well have a discussion rule, so as to stop wasting everyones time every now and again tbh

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Again, you already conceded on their words not being absolute. We have our heads and can think without them.

Yes but, think about it? What if the other Staff agreements are wrong?

Just becouse they are Staff their word is right?.....you know that there are Staff members more knowledgeable than others, in regards Tier 1. And both have their own interpretations that could be wrong or differ from each other......

And it's a fact we should listen the opinion of someone more knowledgeable, is common sense.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The upgrade, or the attempted new rule?

Both technically speaking.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Yes but, think about it? What if the other Staff agreements are wrong?

Just becouse they are Staff their word is right?.....you know that there are Staff members more knowledgeable than others, in regards Tier 1. And both have their own interpretations that could be wrong or differ from each other......

And it's a fact we should listen the opinion of someone more knowledgeable, is common sense.

This is just saying in a very complex way that Ultima's words are gospel basically.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

This is just saying in a very complex way that Ultima's words are gospel basically.

Or DT who focuses on the more mathematical way regarding the tiering.....

Basically, just saying you should rely on the opinion of someone more knowledgeable.
That's common sense, like, one has to be mature enough to know there can be someone who knows more about a subject, don't you think?

 

[Reiner04]

Before this pages reaches upto 100 pages over ultima words, Are we sure that ultima word is for agreement towards low 1C heros to begin with? (Even if it's a off site confirmation)

 

[Quantu]

Can I ask, what's the goal of this Ultima debate?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Or DT.....

Basically, just saying you should rely on the opinion of someone more knowledgeable.
That's common sense, like, someone has to be mature enough to know there can be someone who knows more about a subject, don't you think?

1) They can be wrong, and have been proven wrong like every other common human being.
2) We can keep threads going without them.

If you do not like it, you are not forced to reply here.

Can I ask, what's the goal of this Ultima debate?

Just put the discussion rule, and the desperate people are calling Ultima's name as the last hope.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

1) They can be wrong, and have been proven wrong like every other common human being.

Obv, they can be wrong in many things. But, it's always good to ask someone who knows more than you.

It's all. All opinions are important. But it is fact that for some reason Staff rely on the word of Don'tTalk and Ultima.

Anyways, let's keep going anyways. We need some Staff input here