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Doom Eternal - The Ancient Gods - Part Two CRT (Spoilers Ahead)

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  • Even though there is concrete evidence for pocket reality creations to qualify as an Attack Potency feat; it should not be assumed to scale to physical statistics without some notable scaling reasons. Examples include on screen demonstrations, examples of destruction, or information that the same pool of energy used to create said dimension can translate to the same amount of energy being used for other abilities including but not limited to physical strikes.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Universal energy sources ar explicitly stated to not scale to general AP, literally on th Creation Feats page
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"In order to apply to a character's capacity to harm other characters, that is their usual Attack Potency, their Creation has to be connected to their other abilities. For example, it can be reasoned that a mage which expends mana from its energy pool to make a city and then channels a similar or greater amount of mana into another attack can scale to its creation feat."

you said?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Universal energy sources ar explicitly stated to not scale to general AP, literally on th Creation Feats page
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i call foul, here is the requirement form the creation feat page

"in order to apply to a character's capacity to harm other characters, that is their usual Attack Potency, their Creation has to be connected to their other abilities. For example, it can be reasoned that a mage which expends mana from its energy pool to make a city and then channels a similar or greater amount of mana into another attack can scale to its creation feat"
 
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Tony_di_bugalu said:
"In order to apply to a character's capacity to harm other characters, that is their usual Attack Potency, their Creation has to be connected to their other abilities. For example, it can be reasoned that a mage which expends mana from its energy pool to make a city and then channels a similar or greater amount of mana into another attack can scale to its creation feat."

you said?
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Creation Feats

Creation feats are feats in which a character creates objects from nothing by means like Reality Warping or similar. This separates them from feats in which objects are created from already existing materials, which would be calculated by conventional methods, or feats that qualify for...
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"Even though there is concrete evidence for pocket reality creations to qualify as an Attack Potency feat; it should not be assumed to scale to physical statistics without some notable scaling reasons. Examples include on screen demonstrations, examples of destruction, or information that the same pool of energy used to create said dimension can translate to the same amount of energy being used for other abilities including but not limited to physical strikes."
 
WeeklyBattles said:
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Creation Feats

Creation feats are feats in which a character creates objects from nothing by means like Reality Warping or similar. This separates them from feats in which objects are created from already existing materials, which would be calculated by conventional methods, or feats that qualify for...
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"Even though there is concrete evidence for pocket reality creations to qualify as an Attack Potency feat; it should not be assumed to scale to physical statistics without some notable scaling reasons. Examples include on screen demonstrations, examples of destruction, or information that the same pool of energy used to create said dimension can translate to the same amount of energy being used for other abilities including but not limited to physical strikes."
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and why are you bringing the pocket dimension requirements for this when Hell is clearly not a pocket dimension?
 
I get it weekly doom’s story isn’t exactly rock solid. He destroyed the father’s orb no sweat but for some reason in order to destroy Davoth’s orb he had to resurrect his physical body. It makes no sense, but what you are saying makes even less sense.
 
DTG499 said:
I get it weekly doom’s story isn’t exactly rock solid. He destroyed the father’s orb no sweat but for some reason in order to destroy Davoth’s orb he had to resurrect his physical body. It makes no sense, but what you are saying makes even less sense.
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eh mainly cuse destroying the orb despursed vega's essence and didn't destroy his soul as he say " im mearly a presence i belive the soul sphear can restor me to my full faculties" killing davoth in his physical form after reforming him destroyed his soul outright
causeing all demons across the whole multiverse to just be erased
 
DTG499 said:
I get it weekly doom’s story isn’t exactly rock solid. He destroyed the father’s orb no sweat but for some reason in order to destroy Davoth’s orb he had to resurrect his physical body. It makes no sense, but what you are saying makes even less sense.
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There is an explanation for that actually. If he destroyed Davoths life sphere, Davoth would have became a presence.
 
DTG499 said:
What does that mean though? The father was a presence and he didn’t do a single thing.
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yeah well if davoth became a presence there would be no hell wiping blast after his death and hell would be able to invade to their hearts content and davoth still could curropt people with his wispers and what not

giving him a form and killing him was basically killing two rabbits with one stone
 
Yeah. The issues that came from Davoth and Hell wouldn't go away if he just crushed his life sphere. He's still technically alive.
 
DTG499 said:
What does that mean though? The father was a presence and he didn’t do a single thing.
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Unlike Vega, Davoths Souls and Mind are still one. Despite being trapped in a Life sphere, He still had influence over the Multiverse. Destroying his life Sphere would've made him Completely untouchable and he'd still be able to influence Things, this time however, you'd be Unable to kill him.
 
so anyhow
how many agree and how many disagree?
we should probobly come to a conclusion

Im ok with every addition in the crt except possibly low 1-C for doomguy and davoth
 
AKM wants a summary of the arguments for and against the upgrade so that he may make a decision.
 
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