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Okay, so I left this verse alone for a bit and this happens? The amount of garbage in the profiles are something that don’t make a lot of sense, and I'll start first and foremost with this thread. This thread was made of as recently to get rid of Type 4 Acausality, and the reasons for it being denied were silly to say the least.
Issues with Type 4
Okay, now let's dive into some serious issues regarding the "reasons" for this being accepted.
Almost instantly we can see the obvious issues here, the first being that "Working on a different flow of time." isn't any indication of being Acausal, time is something temporal and completely separate from Causality, so that shouldn't even be used as a form of evidence. Being on a different Temporal system =/= Type 4.
The Laws of Physics and the laws of Gravity are also two completely separate things from Causality, so again these shouldn't even be used as a form of evidence of them working on a different Causality system. Now let's tackle the last part of the supposed "Evidence"
The world is trembling. As one historian put it, this world is so fragile in its foundation that it cannot accept beings that do not follow its laws. So what would happen to the world if an alien being were to be forcibly inserted? The answer is about to appear here, right now. Hailstones I thought the end of the world was going to be a bit loud and boisterous. Dante held his gun in his hands and looked up at the head of the giant beast that occupied the sky, fearlessly and provocatively. As he said, the world is quiet. No, if you value accuracy more, that might not be a very apt description. Rather than quiet, I would say that every sound - not just sound, but every living thing, large and small - has been robbed of its life in the "world" that surrounds it. The waves do not whisper, but stand still as if frozen. The wind has stopped, the air is heavy and stagnant, and only gravity is pulling and weighing down on it. The earth has lost its warmth, and the ground beneath us is like a thick layer of ice. It's not bad, but it's a little too gloomy. Let's have some fun, demon.
As we can see, no mention of a different system of Causality was ever mentioned, which is a requirement. The Causality system needs to have been stated to work on a different system, this isn't something you can assume even if the term "everything" is mentioned, which it isn't here, again a different system of Causality needs to be directly stated. Proof Here and I also find it funny that all of this was added despite the addition being rejected when it was brought up.
Low to Mid-tier Demon Resistances
Some of these i also take issues with, as some again were added to the page despite nobody agreeing with them and most of the additions being rejected.
Demons in general are Resistant to the following:
If the Resistance to Matter Manipulation comes from the Beam stuff, DontTalk has already explained why this isn't a resistance, and as for Fate Manipulation that's unsupported and has inconsistencies. The Cube was still able to Fate hax Dante a bunch of times, so again I see no resistance to Fate Manipulation.
Dante
And I also have issues with the additions to Dante's profile whenever they were never accepted.
Analytical Prediction (Is capable of noticing patterns in his opponent's style and adapt to fight accordingly, even against demons that have command of techniques that allow them to perceive patterns far beyond his opponent's abilities)
For starters, the Vergil feat can't be used as citation for Analytical Prediction as Dante has fought against him many times and naturally knows his moveset and fighting style due to having had clashed against him several times.
The second part has to do with Gilver and at no point did Dante use a form of Prediction in the match, he saw an opening in Gil's attacks and went for it, this isn't Dante predicting several steps ahead to do so he's just going for an opening he noticed. This is something that every MC in Shonen does, yet we don't give them any form of Prediction.
Enhanced Regeneration (Low-Godly; scales from Nelo Angelo, who can regen after complete destruction of his body, although since the time frame is not specified, this regen is non combat applicable)
Again this is complete out of the equation, NOBODY has ever accepted this and literally in the thread it was brought up in nobody agreed to it. Not to mention there's no evidence that Nelo's body was destroyed past a Atomic Level, so again this is just people adding in random powers and abilities, without them ever have gotten accepted.
Issues with Type 4
Okay, now let's dive into some serious issues regarding the "reasons" for this being accepted.
- Acausality (Type 4): The Demon World has a different flow of time, laws of physics, laws of gravity and has stated to have every laws different from the Human World, which also would include the laws that govern all of reality. Demons are unaffected by the Beasthead's assimilation process, which is capable to bind the fates of humans to himself to never let them escape and to devour them.
Almost instantly we can see the obvious issues here, the first being that "Working on a different flow of time." isn't any indication of being Acausal, time is something temporal and completely separate from Causality, so that shouldn't even be used as a form of evidence. Being on a different Temporal system =/= Type 4.
The Laws of Physics and the laws of Gravity are also two completely separate things from Causality, so again these shouldn't even be used as a form of evidence of them working on a different Causality system. Now let's tackle the last part of the supposed "Evidence"
The world is trembling. As one historian put it, this world is so fragile in its foundation that it cannot accept beings that do not follow its laws. So what would happen to the world if an alien being were to be forcibly inserted? The answer is about to appear here, right now. Hailstones I thought the end of the world was going to be a bit loud and boisterous. Dante held his gun in his hands and looked up at the head of the giant beast that occupied the sky, fearlessly and provocatively. As he said, the world is quiet. No, if you value accuracy more, that might not be a very apt description. Rather than quiet, I would say that every sound - not just sound, but every living thing, large and small - has been robbed of its life in the "world" that surrounds it. The waves do not whisper, but stand still as if frozen. The wind has stopped, the air is heavy and stagnant, and only gravity is pulling and weighing down on it. The earth has lost its warmth, and the ground beneath us is like a thick layer of ice. It's not bad, but it's a little too gloomy. Let's have some fun, demon.
As we can see, no mention of a different system of Causality was ever mentioned, which is a requirement. The Causality system needs to have been stated to work on a different system, this isn't something you can assume even if the term "everything" is mentioned, which it isn't here, again a different system of Causality needs to be directly stated. Proof Here and I also find it funny that all of this was added despite the addition being rejected when it was brought up.
Low to Mid-tier Demon Resistances
Some of these i also take issues with, as some again were added to the page despite nobody agreeing with them and most of the additions being rejected.
Demons in general are Resistant to the following:
- Reality Warping, Biological Manipulation, Transmutation, Matter Manipulation (Atomic Level), Size Manipulation, Petrification, Soul Manipulation and Fate Manipulation: Demons are immune to the Beasthead's assimilation process, which is capable of warping reality in various ways
If the Resistance to Matter Manipulation comes from the Beam stuff, DontTalk has already explained why this isn't a resistance, and as for Fate Manipulation that's unsupported and has inconsistencies. The Cube was still able to Fate hax Dante a bunch of times, so again I see no resistance to Fate Manipulation.
- Law Manipulation: Demons live in the Demon World, where every law is different from the Human World, which would also include the laws that govern reality.
Dante
And I also have issues with the additions to Dante's profile whenever they were never accepted.
Analytical Prediction (Is capable of noticing patterns in his opponent's style and adapt to fight accordingly, even against demons that have command of techniques that allow them to perceive patterns far beyond his opponent's abilities)
For starters, the Vergil feat can't be used as citation for Analytical Prediction as Dante has fought against him many times and naturally knows his moveset and fighting style due to having had clashed against him several times.
The second part has to do with Gilver and at no point did Dante use a form of Prediction in the match, he saw an opening in Gil's attacks and went for it, this isn't Dante predicting several steps ahead to do so he's just going for an opening he noticed. This is something that every MC in Shonen does, yet we don't give them any form of Prediction.
Enhanced Regeneration (Low-Godly; scales from Nelo Angelo, who can regen after complete destruction of his body, although since the time frame is not specified, this regen is non combat applicable)
Again this is complete out of the equation, NOBODY has ever accepted this and literally in the thread it was brought up in nobody agreed to it. Not to mention there's no evidence that Nelo's body was destroyed past a Atomic Level, so again this is just people adding in random powers and abilities, without them ever have gotten accepted.