Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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DMC is rated as 1-C (9D). This is highly controversial. For once in my life, I will be making a thread that the majority of the VS community agrees with. I will not be arguing over the canonicity of PoC, or whether or not 9-dimensional souls are actually stored within the demon world, or even the feats used to scale to 1-C. This is looking solely at the reasons given for the cosmology being 9D.
The basis of tier 1 DMC primarily relies on two scans; First is from the mobile game Peak of Combat, which says the following:
To start with, “a higher dimension beyond the Eightfold Path” is a meaningless phrase. The Eightfold Path is a series of Buddhist practices intended to help one transcend the suffering of life and achieve nirvana. Nothing about it corresponds to any spatial dimensions, higher or otherwise. This statement is the equivalent of saying “a higher dimension beyond the Bar Mitzvah”; Taking a religious practice with no relation to dimensionality and extrapolating far too much from it.
Furthermore, a statement of an object being (x)-dimensional is not an indication of qualitative superiority, or higher dimensionality. There are many examples of this, ranging from Ben 10 to Popeye, to the extent that such tier 1 scaling is practically regarded as a joke in the community. More than that, though, using the one-off phrases of “higher dimension” and “nine-dimensional” is not even enough for tier 1, as the tiering system FAQ explains:
Of course, that brings me to the secondary point of scaling, that being the demon world transcending the human realm, as explained in this scan:
I shouldn’t have to explain that a ray of light against the darkness is not indicative of the demon world seeing the universe as a literal geometrical line, just as the demon world isn’t literally “unending darkness”. The demon world being stated as infinite here isn’t particularly relevant, either; It is, after all, possible for one low 2-C space to see another as infinitely small if one has infinite spatial extent and the other does not. One would technically be infinitely larger, but not to the point of qualifying as a higher dimension. All this is meant to convey is the most bare bones good vs evil type trope that sets up almost every conflict in fiction.
TL;DR: Tier 1 DMC is founded upon flowery language and a blatant disregard of the tiering system. The verse’s ratings should be reverted to 2-C.
The basis of tier 1 DMC primarily relies on two scans; First is from the mobile game Peak of Combat, which says the following:
To start with, “a higher dimension beyond the Eightfold Path” is a meaningless phrase. The Eightfold Path is a series of Buddhist practices intended to help one transcend the suffering of life and achieve nirvana. Nothing about it corresponds to any spatial dimensions, higher or otherwise. This statement is the equivalent of saying “a higher dimension beyond the Bar Mitzvah”; Taking a religious practice with no relation to dimensionality and extrapolating far too much from it.
Furthermore, a statement of an object being (x)-dimensional is not an indication of qualitative superiority, or higher dimensionality. There are many examples of this, ranging from Ben 10 to Popeye, to the extent that such tier 1 scaling is practically regarded as a joke in the community. More than that, though, using the one-off phrases of “higher dimension” and “nine-dimensional” is not even enough for tier 1, as the tiering system FAQ explains:
Of course, that brings me to the secondary point of scaling, that being the demon world transcending the human realm, as explained in this scan:
I shouldn’t have to explain that a ray of light against the darkness is not indicative of the demon world seeing the universe as a literal geometrical line, just as the demon world isn’t literally “unending darkness”. The demon world being stated as infinite here isn’t particularly relevant, either; It is, after all, possible for one low 2-C space to see another as infinitely small if one has infinite spatial extent and the other does not. One would technically be infinitely larger, but not to the point of qualifying as a higher dimension. All this is meant to convey is the most bare bones good vs evil type trope that sets up almost every conflict in fiction.
TL;DR: Tier 1 DMC is founded upon flowery language and a blatant disregard of the tiering system. The verse’s ratings should be reverted to 2-C.
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