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I counted every vote in this thread
Geralt has 4 votes while Dio has 0
Geralt has 4 votes while Dio has 0
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Dio vs Geralt
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It's a stomp, we can close this.
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Motivation to make '''good''' Geralt fights
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Dio doesn't stomp if he doesn't know since Dio doesn't kill in a single time stop
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You mean aside from living after time Stop ends and using Quen.
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Acting like Geralt can't survive with a big hole in his throat
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Why are you acting like Dio's never killed someone in one time stop? He killed Kakyoin in one time stop, unless you're really trying to argue that Kakyoin living for not even ten seconds after (going by the manga, then again even in the anime he didnt even last a minute going by the movements of the hands of the clock) doesnt count as killing Kakyoin when Dio punched out his guts and spine, crippled him and he died seconds later?Schnee One said:
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Because nobody told me that, despite asking multiple times.
Besides, Geralt can regenerate and heal, Kakyoin can't.
Besides, Geralt can regenerate and heal, Kakyoin can't.
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Did High DIO do that though?
@00potato
Meh, idk. He "died" (not really) by being stabbed by a man in the guts, but pretty sure being donuted in the throat and having enough stamina to heal himself later by Swallow potion is cool
@00potato
Meh, idk. He "died" (not really) by being stabbed by a man in the guts, but pretty sure being donuted in the throat and having enough stamina to heal himself later by Swallow potion is cool
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Yes, quite fast too if he use swallow potionSchnee One said:
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Oh. Well yes, he stopped time and punched Kakyoin through the guts and spine, sending him flying dozens of meters into a water tower, Kakyoin was completely paralyzed by the punch and died seconds later in the manga (In the anime the scene was actually extended adding some things). But technically speaking, Kak died seconds later in the manga and not even a minute later in the anime.
It being High Dio or Base Dio doesnt really matter. High Dio is actually way more inclined to go for the kill right away. Base Dio while extremely cautious still wanted to **** around with Jotaro and test his Stand. High Dio stopped time once to see how much better it got, was like cool then proceeded to tell Jotaro he was done ******* around and the next time he stops time, he'll be dead before it's over, cue Dio covering a total distance of 4km+ an unknown distance while pulling a road roller out his ass, throwing it, fisticuffs and then having time to flex and monolouge about how he killed Jotaro, all within one time stop.
High Dio while cocky in his own abilities and goes a bit insane briefly, that bout of insanity only lasted not even half a minute, as he later gets his cool back 10-15 seconds later from his perspective. Upon engaging Jotaro. (The narrator in the manga also confirms that the entire Dio fight didnt even last 3 minutes, between Kak getting defeated and Pol getting countered, was less than two minutes and the time between then and Dio getting defeated was not even half of that). So yeah High Dio has a different mindset, that only lasted like 10-30 seconds canonically before he calmed back down.
It being High Dio or Base Dio doesnt really matter. High Dio is actually way more inclined to go for the kill right away. Base Dio while extremely cautious still wanted to **** around with Jotaro and test his Stand. High Dio stopped time once to see how much better it got, was like cool then proceeded to tell Jotaro he was done ******* around and the next time he stops time, he'll be dead before it's over, cue Dio covering a total distance of 4km+ an unknown distance while pulling a road roller out his ass, throwing it, fisticuffs and then having time to flex and monolouge about how he killed Jotaro, all within one time stop.
High Dio while cocky in his own abilities and goes a bit insane briefly, that bout of insanity only lasted not even half a minute, as he later gets his cool back 10-15 seconds later from his perspective. Upon engaging Jotaro. (The narrator in the manga also confirms that the entire Dio fight didnt even last 3 minutes, between Kak getting defeated and Pol getting countered, was less than two minutes and the time between then and Dio getting defeated was not even half of that). So yeah High Dio has a different mindset, that only lasted like 10-30 seconds canonically before he calmed back down.
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Also, why are we forgetting The World can phase much like Star Platinum and Whitesnake? Quen is a issue for Dio, but not The World, unless Quen has stopped something from phasing before?
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>unless Quen has stopped something from phasing before?
Yup. Von Everec ghosts which are immaterial and intangible and Night/Noonwraiths absolutely can't go through it, since it's magic.
Yup. Von Everec ghosts which are immaterial and intangible and Night/Noonwraiths absolutely can't go through it, since it's magic.
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>Yup. Von Everec ghosts which are immaterial and intangible and Night/Noonwraiths absolutely can't go through it, since it's magic.
You word that like it being magic is why they cant go through it, which would be a weakness on their part?
You word that like it being magic is why they cant go through it, which would be a weakness on their part?
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Because this type of magic is specifically made to deal with ghosts, Genies and immaterial beings. Not like it's their weakness.
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No, the point is that Quen can protect Geralt against material and non material attack, even against magic attacks.Chariot190 said:
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He can see immaterial/intangible ghosts invisible to other people.
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>Because this type of magic is specifically made to deal with ghosts, Genies and immaterial beings. Not like it's their weakness.
In that case, it's a 50/50 if it'll stop a Stand, given not even ghosts can see or interact with Stands (yet Stands can ineract and even kill ghosts). Stands seem to be +1 on things like ghosts. But noncorporal may cover Stands anyway, tough call. Basically a coin flip, we simply do not know.
In that case, it's a 50/50 if it'll stop a Stand, given not even ghosts can see or interact with Stands (yet Stands can ineract and even kill ghosts). Stands seem to be +1 on things like ghosts. But noncorporal may cover Stands anyway, tough call. Basically a coin flip, we simply do not know.
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Being a ghost doesn't necessarily mean you already have the ability to see some completely other type of ghosts
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>Being a ghost doesn't necessarily mean you already have the ability to see some completely other type of ghosts
I mean ghosts in Jojo can see souls and revenents so, that's literally two types of ghosts...
I mean ghosts in Jojo can see souls and revenents so, that's literally two types of ghosts...
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Then even if Geralt can't see The World, he still can damage it with Quen with its Attack Reflection as he can damage immaterial and intangible beings.
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I feel like I should explain a bit on the 4km Dio claim a bit.
High Dio actually has a decent feat of covering distance within a time stop. He covered the Qasr El Nil Bridge, an unknown more amount of distance, and then back within 6 seconds. The bridge alone is 2km in length (it's a real bridge) and Jotaro was knocked into the center of it so that's 1km to reach Jotaro upon stopping time but another 1km to leave the area and find a road roller than another 1km to reach Jotaro again. That's a lot of distance within one time stop, and he still had time to do his thing with the road roller.
>High Dio and Base Dio arent that different strength wise.
High Dio is literally the strongest he's ever been and went from getting ragdolled by Star Platinum to actually being on par and possibly above him, while previously one punch from Plat tore through him like tissue and Dio was scared shitless of even entering Star Platinum's range. There's a noticeable increase in power.
High Dio actually has a decent feat of covering distance within a time stop. He covered the Qasr El Nil Bridge, an unknown more amount of distance, and then back within 6 seconds. The bridge alone is 2km in length (it's a real bridge) and Jotaro was knocked into the center of it so that's 1km to reach Jotaro upon stopping time but another 1km to leave the area and find a road roller than another 1km to reach Jotaro again. That's a lot of distance within one time stop, and he still had time to do his thing with the road roller.
>High Dio and Base Dio arent that different strength wise.
High Dio is literally the strongest he's ever been and went from getting ragdolled by Star Platinum to actually being on par and possibly above him, while previously one punch from Plat tore through him like tissue and Dio was scared shitless of even entering Star Platinum's range. There's a noticeable increase in power.
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>Then even if Geralt can't see The World, he still can damage it with Quen with its Attack Reflection as he can damage immaterial and intangible beings.
Well yes, but as said The World may or may not be capable of simply phasing through it and attacking directly. Not enough information to say he can phase through it, but at the same time there's not enough information to say he cant. (Also The World can regenerate, at least Dio's version can).
Well yes, but as said The World may or may not be capable of simply phasing through it and attacking directly. Not enough information to say he can phase through it, but at the same time there's not enough information to say he cant. (Also The World can regenerate, at least Dio's version can).
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No, (unless it decides to phase through someone, that's out of character though).
Strong enough to punch through characters that are building level like wet tissue with zero effort and can initially overwhelm Building level+ characters without trying (before said character got supper pissed off. this + character can overpower other + characters as well if we treat Shadow Dio as a +).
The issue Geralt has to face is not if he can survive a punch from The World, because he can but if he can survive thousands upon thousands of blows from the World (Given both of High Dio's time stops involved fisticuffs). And that's assuming Dio only uses not even a second of his time stop attacking. A full 9-11 second time stop is at least tens of thousands of punches at least.
Strong enough to punch through characters that are building level like wet tissue with zero effort and can initially overwhelm Building level+ characters without trying (before said character got supper pissed off. this + character can overpower other + characters as well if we treat Shadow Dio as a +).
The issue Geralt has to face is not if he can survive a punch from The World, because he can but if he can survive thousands upon thousands of blows from the World (Given both of High Dio's time stops involved fisticuffs). And that's assuming Dio only uses not even a second of his time stop attacking. A full 9-11 second time stop is at least tens of thousands of punches at least.
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Lmao just noticed it's BaW Geralt
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Even assuming Dio was at the bottom of 8-C (he aint but making an example), tens of thousands of punches would still do someone in only 4x stronger. And Geralt ain't 4x stronger, Dio can one shot characters who can one shot characters who can overpower characters not even 2.5x weaker than Geralt.
I mean, Mike Tyson is probably several times stronger than you and would laugh at you punching him, but he aint walking off tens of thousands of direct blows. That'll kill him, hell it'd do more than that.
I'd assume we'd be using 8-C? Generally we use similiar tiers if the characters have it.
I mean, Mike Tyson is probably several times stronger than you and would laugh at you punching him, but he aint walking off tens of thousands of direct blows. That'll kill him, hell it'd do more than that.
I'd assume we'd be using 8-C? Generally we use similiar tiers if the characters have it.
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We use the strongest keys
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>tens of thousands of punches would still do someone in only 4x stronger.
I want to know where this was ever stated on this wiki, please. We are talking about someone who is almost baseline High 8-C against a 8-C+ character. What is Dio's AP? 1.7 tons? Geralt has tanked a bunch of punched and attacks from people stronger than himself.
I want to know where this was ever stated on this wiki, please. We are talking about someone who is almost baseline High 8-C against a 8-C+ character. What is Dio's AP? 1.7 tons? Geralt has tanked a bunch of punched and attacks from people stronger than himself.
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