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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
If you think this is glazing then idk what to tell you dawg.

you’ve seen me talk abt DB at all you know I have my issues with the show and what they’ve done in the past, even this season I’ve complained about stuff, but if I see arguments or criticisms or statements that I think are just wrong or in bad faith I’m gonna say something about them.

People always assume the worst of the team over the silliest little things and it’s honestly pretty sad to watch. Despite any issues with their work they’re real people and deserve respect. so if I see something like misreading what they’re saying or calling them liars or assuming the worst id like to say something at least.

Maybe the fact I have to keep saying something here is sort of indicative of something.
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Sorry for attacking your character, will you forgive my transgressions?
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
Sakuya vs Hit and Kasen vs Fleetway are imho the best ones to try and sell as starting Touhou episodes to get the verse on the show. After that other things like Jack vs Cirno, Marisa vs Yuffie, Remilia vs Rachel, Flan vs Marx, Reimu vs Mars/Arle/Strange etc etc would be easier to sell
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The two are the best shots but they have there fair share of issues but we'll see

 
Jasonsith said:
God Only Fears You (Kratos vs Doomslayer) [God Of War vs DOOM]
Brandon Yates
9,410 views Premiered Nov 16, 2023


9,410 clicks in 1 day for a fan commissioned music work

This is close to chasing some of the more popular works by Brandon Yates for Season 7 (March 2023 onwards). Like:
Can U Feel That (Gigachad vs Ricardo Milos) [Halloween Special] w/@lnfotron
36,285 views Nov 1, 2023
Flash Back (Denji vs Yuji) [Jujutsu Kaisen vs Chainsaw Man]
16,753 views Nov 1, 2023
Our Benefactors (Big Brother vs The Combine) [1984 vs Half-Life]
10,753 views Nov 8, 2023
Crowned Cruelty (Magolor vs Merlina) [Kirby vs Sonic]
9,535 views Nov 4, 2023

Oh my. Kratos has a lot of fans and Kratos vs Doom Slayer seems quite liked. Will it push KratoSura to or hinder it from getting into the TOC finals
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Oh the gap actually widens
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Tipper17 said:
The two are the best shots but they have there fair share of issues but we'll see

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Ember VS Sylvanos (Brawlhalla VS Rivals of Aether)- They aren’t familiar with Rivals of Aether, but it seems cool and the connections make sense.

Doomsday VS SCP-682 (DC VS SCP Foundation)- They see how popular the matchup is, and get the appeal of two nigh-unkillable monsters fighting each other, but they have no idea how to powerscale SCPs.

Slime VS Slime (Dragon Quest VS Terraria)- Sam thinks Terraria is a better game than Dragon Quest. He thinks the Dragon Quest Slime wins, though, since late-game DQ Slimes are generally more impressive than any form of Terraria Slimes. Erin says it would have to be an army battle, because otherwise “it’s just two blobs aggressively blobbing at each other”.

Morrigan VS Arcueid (Darkstalkers VS Melty Blood)- John is the only one who knows what Melty Blood is. When asked if the matchup makes sense, he answers that it does connection-wise.

Larfleeze VS Annihilus (DC VS Marvel)- They aren’t super familiar with the characters. Sam thinks it’s funny that one of the connections is that they’re both xenophobic. The discussion is mostly about how Larfleeze’s powers work (he’s an Orange Lantern, and he makes constructs of those he’s previously defeated in battle).

Knull VS Oryx (Marvel VS Destiny)- “I feel like they’re bringing out the more obscure comic characters”. Sam thinks it’d be weird to compare a Destiny character to a Marvel character, because Oryx is defeated by “four strong homies with guns”, and he doesn’t think any notable Marvel character could. Erin notes that it’d mainly be the Symbiotes vs. the Taken, which she thinks the Symbiotes win easily. At the end, Erin says it’s a fun concept regardless, which Sam agrees with.

Jumbo Josh VS Huggy Wuggy (Garten of Banban VS Poppy Playtime)- Sam and Erin don’t know these characters, but John does. John says he gets it, though he also points out the massive size difference. Sam says he wouldn’t watch the battle if he were a random person on the internet who got it recommended to him. John responds that they’d get kids clicking on the video, but Sam says kids shouldn’t be watching those types of videos.

Okoye & 4 Dora Milaje VS Hippolyta & 4 Amazons (Marvel VS DC)- Sam immediately says the Amazons stomp. Erin says that, if they are specifically referring to the live-action versions of the characters, then it’s worth noting that the DCEU Amazons are shown to be killed by regular bullets (which she thinks is dumb). Either way, it’s still peak human vs. superhuman, so the Amazons should win.

Angry Video Game Nerd VS Nostalgia Critic- Sam is worried they’d get called biased because they used to work with James Rolfe a long time ago. Erin says that, even though they’re personas of real people, they’re still real people, and they don’t want to go back to that realm.

Ultraman VS Evangelion Unit-01- Sam thinks it’s really cool, though the visuals would be weird. He says that Ultraman “might actually win” (I’m not sure if that means he thinks Ultraman does win, or if he just thinks it’s closer than it initially appears).

Rachel Alucard VS Remilia Scarlet (BlazBlue VS Touhou)- Sam notes people really want to see Touhou in DB. It makes sense and would be cool, but Sam thinks there are other vampire matchups they might need to get to first (“Maybe one day we’ll solve the Team Edward debate”).

Spider-Man VS Joseph Joestar (Marvel VS JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure)- Sam doesn’t get it. John says the banter potential would be amazing, but he and Sam both think their powers wouldn’t mesh well. Sam says it’s a massive stomp (I assume in Spidey’s favor, though he doesn’t say directly).

Zeus VS Odin- They think it’s the top choice for a second mythology episode, and more mythology episodes are definitely on their radar after how well Hercules VS Sun Wukong was received. Sam does note it’s weird to include the top figures in real world religions (even if they aren’t widely practiced religions in modern times), but Erin says they’ve already broached that discussion for Hercules VS Wukong, and they’d just have to approach Zeus VS Odin in a similar way. Erin points out that they’re aren’t many “canon” sources for Greek and Norse mythology, and the ones that do exist contradict each other, making it somewhat hard to research, but then adds that this doesn’t de-legitimize the matchup, and she’s very fond of it.

Eric Cartman VS Porky Minch (South Park VS Earthbound)- It starts with a debate about whether it’s Porky or Pokey. Sam isn’t sure how to scale South Park characters, since a lot of the most impressive stuff they do is make-believe. The questions of whether Cartman gets Cthulhu, and if Porky gets Giygas, are raised (they then say Cthulhu VS Giygas could be a good fight). Sam thinks the MU makes sense, remembering that he saw Porky’s similarities to Cartman when he played Earthbound as a kid.

Walter White VS Michael Corleone (Breaking Bad VS The Godfather)- The connections are there, but neither of them have any real combat feats. Erin says it would be “2 minutes and 50 seconds of them just talking, and then, in the last 10 seconds, they shoot each other”. Sam randomly suggests turning it into a live-action play about two warring crime lords, which leads to Erin saying it would be a live-action fight.

First matchup for the next Ballot Banter is Midora VS Blackbeard (Toriko VS One Piece).
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Akihiko would be a funny MU
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This will be so ungodly stompy and spiteful it makes Omni-Man vs Homelander and Weiss Schnee vs Mitsuru Kirijo fair - wait Yang vs Akihiko IS Weiss vs Mitsuru (boxer edition).




Yang gets so much hatred because Tifa is mistreated.
Should we give Tifa a new matchup also?
 
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Jasonsith said:
This will be so ungodly stompy and spiteful it makes Omni-Man vs Homelander and Weiss Schnee vs Mitsuru Kirijo fair - wait Yang vs Akihiko IS Weiss vs Mitsuru (boxer edition).




Yang gets so much hatred because Tifa is mistreated.
Should we give Tifa a new matchup also?
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Feeding RWBY characters to Persona characters is not a good idea.
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
Sakuya vs Hit and Kasen vs Fleetway are imho the best ones to try and sell as starting Touhou episodes to get the verse on the show. After that other things like Jack vs Cirno, Marisa vs Yuffie, Remilia vs Rachel, Flan vs Marx, Reimu vs Mars/Arle/Strange etc etc would be easier to sell
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Technically Janemba vs Utsuho Reiuji is also there but Janemba himself is quite lesser heard even within the Dragon Ball community.

But Janembuho and Kasonic are matchups that are carried by some big names and actually have good close connections.

... Wait. Can a Kirby villain like Marx carry in Flandre Scarlet vs Marx? (If a SMT character appears before Jack Frost maybe Jack Frost can also carry Cirno vs Jack Frost)
 
Tournament of Champions Tier List

  • Liam is not a fan of Xenoblade and Shulk
  • Sam thinks Zeus Odin and Percy Zag are higher than a C-Tier, thinks X Primal should be wildly higher than a D
  • Sam is not huge on Gru Megamind
  • Not a lot of people there know OFF
  • Liam is not huge on Hiro Baymax Hiccup Toothless
  • Everyone shocked that Kasen Fleetway is so high on someone’s tier list
  • Liam thinks Peacemaker Solider Boy is an A-Tier
  • Everyone on the team thinks Zeus Odin is really rad and would be different from Sun Heracles with how much more evil these two are comparatively
  • Sam doesn’t care for Jimmy Dexter, mainly a lack of caring for Jimmy while liking Dexter
  • Sam’s F-tier would be Godzilla Hulk
  • Liam is a huge Tom Wile supporter
  • Speedy is not big on Kratos Asura, jokingly brought up it’s because how Hyper rigged the 3D vote last year for Colex
  • Sam doesn’t see a point in doing Luffy Naruto now
  • Sam and Speedy like Luke Saber
  • Sam thinks Kratos Asura is fine
  • Sam and Liam dig Scorpion Wolf a lot and think it’s simple research wise
  • If Liam could pick any of Speedy’s C-Tier matchups as a S he would pick Wile Tom and Palpanort
  • KoroKuma in S or A on almost every tier list
 
ZeNoviceArtist said:
Are Zeus and Odin actually evil?
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Outside of the answers given, let me put this in a nutshell:

Arguably more then 50% of Greek Mythology can start with the sentence "One day, Zeus was horny and wanted to get some tail.". And his lust isn't his only negative trait when referring to Zeus so just imagine how much of a massive asshole and monster the dude is in myth, Odin's a MUCH better god that usually does evil deeds for a greater good end result
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Zeus is one of the worst gods imaginable, he's a massive douchebag.
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Meanwhile Hades was pretty chill (compared to his brothers, I mean Zeus was literally a shapeshifting serial rapist!) both him and Anubis were actually quite honourable underworld deities despite most modern interpretations of them making them seem demonic.

As for Odin, Loki simply existing kinda justifies some of the All-father's more brutal tactics.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Meanwhile Hades was pretty chill (compared to his brothers, I mean Zeus was literally a shapeshifting serial rapist!) both him and Anubis were actually quite honourable underworld deities despite most modern interpretations of them making them seem demonic.

As for Odin, Loki simply existing kinda justifies some of the All-father's more brutal tactics.
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It's pretty sad that Hades has always been giving the shaft as some petty, cold, or cold deity in many forms of media and stories when Hades is one of the most chill and nice gods in Greek Mythology. I mean yeah the shit involving Persephone was pretty eyebrow raising, but not only did Hades end up being a good husband to her but most mortals and heroes alike can remain in Hades' good graces as long as they respected his authority and didn't attempt to double cross him.

I mean shit this is the same guy who let Hercules take Cerberus back to the living just because the later asked and promised to take him back, and the same guy who let Orpheus try to bring back his wife from the Underworld without trying to stop him. So all this, among other examples, make me disappointed that the man's name has been slandered for many years.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Meanwhile Hades was pretty chill (compared to his brothers, I mean Zeus was literally a shapeshifting serial rapist!) both him and Anubis were actually quite honourable underworld deities despite most modern interpretations of them making them seem demonic.

As for Odin, Loki simply existing kinda justifies some of the All-father's more brutal tactics.
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Anubis has been given some slack in stuff like American Gods and Gods of Egypt(although the latter kinda sucks)
 
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