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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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ZeNoviceArtist said:
I remember I drew a sketch of Dr. Strange vs Dr. Fate a few days after the official DB was created. I think I was in highschool when I made this.
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Looking back at my art history, the last thing I've drawn in awhile was of fanart of a yuri rom-com manga that is currently on hiatus.
 
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Tipper17 said:
Anyways to pass the time post ya top 5 favorite MU and reasons for them
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Didn't we already do this? Eh, whatever
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Good connections, contrast and animation potential, I love both characters, it's somewhat fair stat and hax-wise, though Sakuya has the upper hand here. The banter would be awesome with them both debating about humanity, vampires and other shit like that and the animation potential would be just godly, 2hou and Castlevania are famous for their godly OSTs, so of course the track must sound good.
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Sonic vs Goku but good, the debate is sadly ****** here since we already know Archie characters beat Xeno ones but whatever, the animation would still kick ass and the death could be really brutal, also I really like Scourge.
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This has no negatives.
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GIVE AKUMA A GOOD ******* EPISODE ALREADY! But seriously, this MU is so ******* good, the connections work perfectly, the choreography could be really fun and you could make them both speak japanese like they did with Heihachi, also epic Raoh W.
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Piccolo straight up has no ******* good MUs but this one is the most tolerable to me, the fight with them could be really fun: they could have an army fight with their duplicates, Meta Knight summoning a meteor, only for Piccolo to counter it via getting bigger and crushing the meteor with his bare hands, the whole fight would be filled with ******* raw scenes like that. I also imagine the death being hype as ****, if Piccolo wins I would do it like that: Piccolo attempts to use a Special Beam Cannon but Meta Knight does his iconic final smash and slices off Piccolo's left arm, he prepares to finish off Piccolo, until Piccolo's sliced off left arm fires a ki blast at Meta Knight (Yeah, Piccolo could actually do that), with Meta Knight being attacked from behind, Piccolo finally charges up his special beam cannon, which pierces through Meta and the blast from behind manages to desintegrate him.
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Anybody have any good MUs for Peppino Spaghetti from Pizza Tower? I wanna make a note of trying to commission a VS track for him but idk what the MU would be. Maybe SMBSS Mario?
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I will be sure to update you with one as soon as possible cause I'm balls deep in the middle of playing that game rn too

I too would love a battle track with It's Pizza Time! in there somewhere.

Peppino vs Anton but its for a makeout session
 
Tipper17 said:
Anyways to pass the time post ya top 5 favorite MU and reasons for them
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I'm assuming you mean MUs that haven't happened yet? If so:


5. SCP-682 vs Doomsday (SCP Foundation vs Doomsday)

I adore the SCP Foundation as a whole, collective writing is such a fascinating concept and 682 is one of the most iconic and interesting monsters to come out of the entire ordeal, with Doomsday being a perfect opponent for him. Astronomically high animation potential for a fight beyond any we've seen, with constant adaption and high scale destruction for an absurdly brutal fight that tugs back and forth constantly.

4. John Constantine vs Raidou Kuzunoha XIV (DC vs SMT)

I've only grown to love this fight the more I read Hellblazer, and the Raidou games are at the top of my "must play" list right now. Incredibly fascinating matchup with a shitload to discuss, a really fun dynamic, and absolutely batshit feats and abilities to go over. This fight is just chock full of potential and you can imagine it playing out in so many ways, it's honestly my favorite SMT matchup I think.

3. Takayuki Yagami vs Wei Shen (Judgment vs Sleeping Dogs)

An absolute banger of a street level martial arts MU. Better connections & a closer fight than Kiryu vs Wei, with both characters having a variety of martial arts techniques to work with to create an incredibly choreographed fight with high spectacle. If you want to play into their more wild parts as well, Wei has access to a wide variety of guns and weapons and even some magical abilities, while Yagami gains a shitload of magical abilities off of the extracts he can collect in the games to help even the playing field. This fight could either be played as a straight up martial arts brawl, or be mixed as a street brawl that escalates into Wei using various weapons as Yagami uses his acrobatics and speed to evade his shots to try and either disarm Wei or utilize his own magic to counter Wei's, before the fight ends with both fighters having fully drained their resources and slugging out with everything they have in one last rush.

2. Marisa Kirisame vs Yuffie Kisaragi (Touhou Project vs Final Fantasy)

I adore this matchup, besides Marisa being literally one of my 2 favorite characters of all time making this high priority for me, both fighters vibe off of one another very well and have super fun banter potential, they have absolutely massive and unique arsenals that counter and trade with one another in a lot of ways giving massive fight potential and ability trading, both franchises at their high ends have insane levels of power allowing for high cosmic stats, and both characters have lots of flashy attacks and summons to throw out to give the fight a unique identity. I regularly think of all the crazy setpieces you could make with this fight, Yuffie summoning Bahamut only for Marisa to start scrapping with the beast itself, Marisa using a Blazing Star to try and ram Yuffie only for her to get onto her broom and force her into CQC, Yuffie utilizing her various magical spells to counteract Marisa's massive overwhelming danmaku waves, Yuffie summoning Bahamut Fury, only for Marisa to summon the Giant Catfish to battle Bahamut for her while she closes in to battle Yuffie. The fight just ******* WORKS, and if my commissioned track with Therewolf says anything, the fight has absurd music potential.

1. Kasen Ibaraki vs Fleetway Sonic (Touhou Project vs Fleetway Comics & SEGA)

I don't think anybody expected this to be anywhere else. This MU is my baby, I'm the one who came up with it and pushes it so much, but I really think it has everything that you need out of a MU. Great connections with a solid core theme, with a fun contrast in appearances, batshit feats & haxxes for both characters allowing for an interesting debate and wild animation potential, Sonic & Touhou are both well renowned for their music, a battle track between these two would be absolutely insane. Hearing about Fleetway as a whole would be awesome on the show, and you can tie together a really cool story between these two and their shared struggle & mutual understanding by the time the battle closes. It's another one of those fights where the setpieces just write themselves, to the point that I've actually made a lot of progress on a battle script for the fight.

Yeah that's my top 5, detailed reasoning, enjoy ( :<

(Cirno vs Jack Frost, Flandre Scarlet vs Marx, Yukari Yakumo vs Altair, Archie Tails vs Ran Yakumo, Lupin vs Sly, Travis vs Scott, Simon vs Kyle, Kiryu Kazuma vs Shizuo Heiwajima / Saichi Sugimoto, Taro Sakamoto vs Tatsu the Dragon, AoSTH Sonic vs SMBSS Mario, Kratos vs Asura / Dante, and one unnamed MU also rank pretty high)
 
Tipper17 said:
Anyways to pass the time post ya top 5 favorite MU and reasons for them
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Well the number is the most obvious: The knight vs the traveler, simple, fan of Genshin as Guardian Tale, both protagonist of their respective games starting their journey in search of something that was taken away, Personally I would love to see these two, I think the dynamics of the huge variety of weapon of the knight against the various elemental attacks of the traveler would be interesting, and more like the dynamics between the two.

Besides being the Mu that I'm working on for my first time animating lol.

Sans vs the judge: final bosses of their respective games (sans technically is for the genocidal route) both people who lost their loved one because of an inexpressive character who manipulated them from the beginning, the music, the dynamics between them, and especially why OFF deserves a representation.

Hank vs Bloody bunny: A bloody fight that would undoubtedly lead to a lot of great moments, the two fighting until the last drop of blood runs out, an excellent fight dynamic, and a real brutality if we include enemies attacking him during their fight.

SCP 682 vs doomsday: a good inclusion to scp, a fight that although it wouldn't have the most interesting dialogues, it would be an absolute brutality and exaggeration, both killing machines that adapt to everything, both will fight until the universe dies... and only one will reign as the true immortal creature that they are.

John constantine vs raidou Kuzunoha: two supernatural detectives who deal with all kinds of demonic shit, both would have a pretty good dynamic, and it would be great to see the intelligence and cunning of the hellblazer at play.
 
Well, for MU that I want, it'd be Dr. Cortex vs Dr. Nefarious (Crash vs R&C). Plain simply, I think it'd be fun, they are verses and characters I'd like to see in the show, they have simple solid connections and themes. Both verses have been on show so it wouldnt be impossible impossible.

And then I remember that Zomboss vs Cortex G1^2 blog which had to talk about uni Cortex and then I keep thinking where did modern VS go wrong :V
 
Deidalius said:
I don't like MUs like Homura vs Zoom

WHy is Zoom beefing with a little anime girl? WHy do y'all want him to murder a kid in cold blood?
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BlackDarkness679 said:
You make it sound as if he bullies a loli lol
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Deidalius said:
is that not how the matchup would go though? a buff 6 foot tall pile of muscles picks on a sad depressed 3 foot tall anime loli, absolutely humilliates her in every category (Stats, haxes, etc), bullies her, and then proceeds to brutallize her and kill her in the worst way imaginable.
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Seventy96 said:
What about her abstract existance and mindhax?
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Deidalius said:
I highly doubt Death Battle would make Professor Zoom lose to Homura out of all people. He has decades of comics to pull bullshit from. I am sure somewhere you will find something along the lines of "I am faster than Homura and I can defeat her no diff no diff with my haxes"
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Well... Many of her haxes are working on an extradimensional scale and it actually takes characters as buffed as Wally, Barry and Eobard to take her down for good.
Which is making this matchup even more interesting - discovering and exploring the ceilings of Puella Magi verse and DC Flashes. (We know that Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna just explores the pinnacle of the humongous scales of Marvel and DC omniverses.)

Also does Demoness Homura not scale from Goddess Madoka who "eradicated all witches from all worlds in all timelines before they are created in her own hands", "completely reformed the multiverse, which is stated to be made of infinite universes, from destroying the concept of Witches in every universe, past and future", "ascended to a higher level of existence to become a conceptual entity as the Law of Cycles itself, which encompasses the multiverse as well as the nonexistent multiverse beyond it"?

Deidalius said:
This song unironically sounds really good, I've added it to my playlist.
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That said, thank you for even bothering or getting interested to listen to this. And actually have a discussion on the matchup itself.

 
Theburgerking11 said:
Next Community Death Battle:
Funny Valentine vs Senator Armstrong.
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Stand, son!
Tipper17 said:
Anyways to pass the time post ya top 5 favorite MU and reasons for them
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5. Sakuya Izayoi VS Heaven Ascension DIO
It is time to do a "father vs daughter".

4. Captain America VS Kamen Rider Ichigo
It is an introduction of Kamen Rider series. And Kamen Rider has interesting H2H scene.

3. Mr. Freeze VS FrostNova
First, I feel that it is better than Mr. Freeze VS Doctor Octopus because both Mr. Freeze and FrostNova has extremely similar physiology and tragic backstory. Second, the recent calculation puts FrostNova with prep or "death gate" comparable to Mr. Freeze's prep. Third, no matter who wins, the battlefield will become very cold.

2. Luz Noceda VS Atsuko Kagari
First, I feel that it is better than Luz VS Anne. (Actually, I feel that Luz VS Marcy is more reasonable) Second, their connection is somewhat making me think "they are literally the same person".

1. Damian Wayne VS Su Shiu-Yuan
First, it is a DC L and non-Marvel W. Second, it does not have to touch the craziness of DC cosmology and Pili Puppet Show cosmology, unlike Batman VS Su Huan-Jen. Third, they have decent connections and their connection can be summarized as "unexpected biological sons of their goddamn father who is drugged by their mother. Isolated from their father who does not know their existence, their physical growth is accelerated and they are taught to be a person capable of fulfilling something great." While it is a Su Shiu-Yuan W, the matchup has animation potential such as them showing their H2H skill and sword skill, Damian using gadgets in an attempt to keep up with Su Shiu-Yuan's "chi magic", Damian mocking Su Shiu-Yuan's title "The No. 1 Under the Heaven" while Su Shiu-Yuan is inside his giant box.

Dishonorable matchups:
Marcy Wu VS Wu Cheng'en (Wu Cheng'en and Journey to the West)
Marcy Wu stomps hard even in base form. It is funny to see that Marcy Wu actually has connections to some obscure characters including this one. (And the matchup would be 1 if it were not a stomp without animation potential because they have decent connection and their interaction potential is good (e.g. Wu Cheng'en believes that Marcy Wu tries to destroy his Journey to the West draft and imagines Marcy Wu as a random JTTW demons to be killed by Sun Wukong inside Wu Cheng'en's mind))
 
Since everyone done there it's time I do mines

My Top 5 favorite Mu

5.Kratos vs Asura
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Reason:While Dante is another of mine this MU has that raw energy between two Goldy warriors of rage, Kratos is Long overdue for Runback and Asura is long overdue for an episode while the dynamic is sketchy give both series style, there's many caveats to work around it to make it work between the two.

Funny how before I was against this MU and now I'm a fan of it

4.Frieza vs Megatron (G1/UT)
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Reason: i always found the sudden hate boner for the Mu to be cringe and weak and regardless of it the MU is still among my favorites regardless of which version of Megatron they go with.
The Banter,The Action and the Music gives me everything i want between the two.


3.Juggernaut vs Archie Knuckles
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Reason:Juggs been In Mu Purgatory for years getting nothing but Hulk's left overs(Doomsday,Broly) or really dumb ones like Bane.

Until the last year's Juggs started to get good picks like Overlord from TF and more importantly Archie Knux.

The fight can easily be a good ole fashioned brawl with a tad bit of Hax between these two.
The set up can easily be Juggs trying to steal the Master emerald with Knux stopping him
The fight can start with Juggs tanking/no selling base Knux attacks only starting to feel it when the former transforms which kicks the fight off

Plus a 90s bit arcade orchestra of Sonic x Marvel would sound good

2.Liu Kang vs Jago
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Reasons: Liu Kang is mad overdue for a DB and Jago is the best for him. MK and KI is always a nice pairing and far more fitting than MK and SF
Being a martial arts enthusiast, the fight can be akin Ryu vs Jin when starting small with normal martial arts before escalating with Fire God Liu vs Omen Jago


1.Gohan vs Ultraman Zero
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Reasons: This Gohan Best Mu and I'm not hearing otherwise. It brings in a new franchise onto the show, The connections are solid, The Animation Potential is there especially with the Climax involving Gohan Beast vs Shining Ultimate Zero.

it mixes in Gohan gimmick as the great Saiyaman with Toku Sentai antics well for the set up with both being chivalry and respectful ala MIGHT^2 before taking it up a notch with both getting serious. Given DB characters (Gohan Specifically) fought Giant Characters before as well as Ultraman species being able to shapeshift their size you can easily make the dynamic work between the two.
 
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