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Death Battle Season Nine Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
So Ultra’s blog made me look into Enerjak vs Lord Drakkon a bit and huh! They’re both Low 1-C with higher dimensional shit going and and haxxed to oblivion. What’s the general consensus on this one?

It seems like most ppl agreed the Chaos Force’s conceptual manipulation would be too much for Drakkon but this one seems surprisingly close honestly?
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Weirdly enough, I’ve seen some say Drakkon stomps through being higher dimensional
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
yeah... eh, i still prefer lord drako vs ohma zi o, i don't vibe with enerjack.

enerjack vs savanti romero i definitely hope it happens.
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i kinda like Onslaught as a possible opponent because it feels very 90s
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
Touhou’s main advantage in getting on DB is that a lot of their opponents come from MUCH more popular franchises.

Sakuya vs Hit from Dragon Ball
Marisa vs Yuffie from Final Fantasy
Kasen vs Fleetway Sonic, a Sonic Comic
Flandre vs Marx from Kirby

etc etc, Touhou can generally ride off the popularity of another bigger franchise which could help pull views, which generally helps its case in getting on the show.

the only characters in a weird spot are Remilia and Reimu, since Remis big MU is Rachel who’s a GG character… who hasn’t been on the show since S2, while Reimu’s big two MUs are Sailor Mars, which comes attached with Toei troubles and Blaze potentially poaching Mars, and Arle Nadja, who isn’t a super popular character and Puyo isn’t as big in the West as it is in Japan. Not a WHO franchise but not huge.
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Hit being fed to Sakuya Izayoi and
Yuffie Kisaragi fed to Marisa Kirisame are popular enough.

Well Reimu Hakurei also has Madoka Kaname and Sakura Kinomoto but Clamp verse is a lesser heard who franchise in the west AFAIK and Madoka herself is pit against a lot of other magical girls.
Marx vs Flandre Scarlet has died down a bit thanks to Marx vs Kefka Palazzo.
Remilia Scarlet vs Rachel Alucard is a pick but good luck with Blazblue coming back.


I wonder what you thinks on the matchups against Yukari Yakumo though.

  • Altair (Re:Creators) - number one choice despite Re:Creators as a relatively who verse
  • Pram - suffers from Nipponverse being relatively who to the west (?)
  • Najimi Ajimu - also requested from time to time but what are the close connections again other than OP ladies?
  • Dimentio - well some close connections exists but yeah Yukari hax stomps and Super Paper Mario is lesser heard outside the Nintendo fans
  • Hoopa - actually have close connections, banter and fight choreography can be fun, and Hoopa speaks a lot in human language so it could be fun overall (and making this fight not a monologue by Yukari). AP stomp by dream world + Amitabha scaling yojana universe stomp + hax stomp + possibly speed blitz. Pokémon is a verse big enough even among the normies but Hoopa is surprisingly less pit against other opponents.
  • Giratina - vague close connections. Possibly closer in AP but still Yukari hax stomps. And Giratina is usually related to other death users and antimatter users.
  • Elizabeth (Persona) / Margaret (Persona) - These are god tiers of Persona and literal god level characters.
  • America Chavez (Marvel Comics) - non-DC vs Marvel. But this time Yukari is going to murder stomp for vengeance of Tetsuo Shima.
 
Also in hindsight, since Shadow got "beating Ryuko was a pity win", wouldn't that happen with DBZ too if they say fed Invinble to Gohan, Magus to Piccolo and Megatron to Frieza?

I feel like that could happen.
 
Jasonsith said:
Mind asking: what is a possibility for future Spongebob Squarepants characters and Super Friends characters coming to Death Battle? (And by now it is safe to say Squidward will murder Bakugou harder than Spongebob Squarepants murders Super Friends Aquaman)
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I don't think that they won't come again. Everything is possible.
I propose Sheldon J. Plankton VS Sharingan Spying Creature (Naruto). The connection? Look at their page
https://spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Sheldon_J._Planktonhttps://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sharingan_Spying_Creature
If you take attention, SpongeBob is well-known elsewhere.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Also in hindsight, since Shadow got "beating Ryuko was a pity win", wouldn't that happen with DBZ too if they say fed Invinble to Gohan, Magus to Piccolo and Megatron to Frieza?

I feel like that could happen.
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Invincible pretty much one. Magus and Megatron have shit that can at least make those two work for their W

Invincible nah you can't even make a argument for him even from low-balling Gohan
 
Tipper17 said:
Invincible pretty much one. Magus and Megatron have shit that can at least make those two work for their W

Invincible nah you can't even make a argument for him even from low-balling Gohan
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The only way Gohan vs invincible is to occupy gohan as a teenager.

But yeah, I doubt people want to just see teenage Gohan, after all that this one received with his new form lol.
 
TUHTPeaSkull12 said:
The only way Gohan vs invincible is to occupy gohan as a teenager.

But yeah, I doubt people want to just see teenage Gohan, after all that this one received with his new form lol.
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Considering we just had a stomp fight, maybe the plan with that one would be to have a fight based around both characters stories, with Gohan being someone who hates fighting but was forced to have incredible power out of necessity while Invincible was someone who wanted to be a hero their whole life but was always JUST not powerful enough most of their life. Paint a narrative of Invincible being completely out of his league but still pushing on and on.
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
Considering we just had a stomp fight, maybe the plan with that one would be to have a fight based around both characters stories, with Gohan being someone who hates fighting but was forced to have incredible power out of necessity while Invincible was someone who wanted to be a hero their whole life but was always JUST not powerful enough most of their life. Paint a narrative of Invincible being completely out of his league but still pushing on and on.
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Idk if the story element can work here tbh

When Base Gohan is enough to stomp mark it's makes it hard to conceive a moment where in the fight invincible can realistically push Gohan beyond Ssj
 
JoshDoshMosh said:
Weirdly enough, I’ve seen some say Drakkon stomps through being higher dimensional

i kinda like Onslaught as a possible opponent because it feels very 90s
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Unless he’s 6D, never underestimate the Archie character, we just had a pretty strong reminder of that last ep lol


Jasonsith said:
Hit being fed to Sakuya Izayoi and
Yuffie Kisaragi fed to Marisa Kirisame are popular enough.

Well Reimu Hakurei also has Madoka Kaname and Sakura Kinomoto but Clamp verse is a lesser heard who franchise in the west AFAIK and Madoka herself is pit against a lot of other magical girls.
Marx vs Flandre Scarlet has died down a bit thanks to Marx vs Kefka Palazzo.
Remilia Scarlet vs Rachel Alucard is a pick but good luck with Blazblue coming back.


I wonder what you thinks on the matchups against Yukari Yakumo though.

  • Altair (Re:Creators) - number one choice despite Re:Creators as a relatively who verse
  • Pram - suffers from Nipponverse being relatively who to the west (?)
  • Najimi Ajimu - also requested from time to time but what are the close connections again other than OP ladies?
  • Dimentio - well some close connections exists but yeah Yukari hax stomps and Super Paper Mario is lesser heard outside the Nintendo fans
  • Hoopa - actually have close connections, banter and fight choreography can be fun, and Hoopa speaks a lot in human language so it could be fun overall (and making this fight not a monologue by Yukari). AP stomp by dream world + Amitabha scaling yojana universe stomp + hax stomp + possibly speed blitz. Pokémon is a verse big enough even among the normies but Hoopa is surprisingly less pit against other opponents.
  • Giratina - vague close connections. Possibly closer in AP but still Yukari hax stomps. And Giratina is usually related to other death users and antimatter users.
  • Elizabeth (Persona) / Margaret (Persona) - These are god tiers of Persona and literal god level characters.
  • America Chavez (Marvel Comics) - non-DC vs Marvel. But this time Yukari is going to murder stomp for vengeance of Tetsuo Shima.
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I’m gonna be honest most of these aren’t really on the table lol, it’s kind of Altair or bust. Dimentio has other more popular (and better, like Wilfre), I’ve never once seen America Chavez ever recommended and it’d be a spite MU at that point, Giratina sucks as an MU, Najimi has no connections, idk about Pram to say, Elizabeth / Margaret probably have better, and they wouldn’t get the SMT scaling so it would go from SMT stomp to Touhou stomp lol I think, Hoopa is a who Pokemon that I’ve never seen any discussion for even after it’s movie, it seems like a Shaymin type legendary honestly, and is also violently unfair to the Pokémon. Also it may be able to talk, but does it have anything interesting to say? Does it have a personality of note?


Tipper17 said:
Idk if the story element can work here tbh

When Base Gohan is enough to stomp mark it's makes it hard to conceive a moment where in the fight invincible can realistically push Gohan beyond Ssj
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I’m not really a fan of the MU myself since it’s basically just sacrificing Gohan having interesting or believable progression and Invincible getting shitstomped, but it’s at least an angle they could take.
 
Kirbonic_Pikmin said:
Touhou’s main advantage in getting on DB is that a lot of their opponents come from MUCH more popular franchises.

Sakuya vs Hit from Dragon Ball
Marisa vs Yuffie from Final Fantasy
Kasen vs Fleetway Sonic, a Sonic Comic
Flandre vs Marx from Kirby

etc etc, Touhou can generally ride off the popularity of another bigger franchise which could help pull views, which generally helps its case in getting on the show.

the only characters in a weird spot are Remilia and Reimu, since Remis big MU is Rachel who’s a GG character… who hasn’t been on the show since S2, while Reimu’s big two MUs are Sailor Mars, which comes attached with Toei troubles and Blaze potentially poaching Mars, and Arle Nadja, who isn’t a super popular character and Puyo isn’t as big in the West as it is in Japan. Not a WHO franchise but not huge.
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I can see that Death Battle do need to continue to introduce more new franchises on the show

We know they want to bring In characters like Columbo,Swat Cats and etc but whether Higher-ups be more open is another matter as well as will it do well in views
 
TMaakkonen said:
I do would like to point out, that we have now reached highest new IPs introduced for a single season besides S1-2, S9 has delivered.

I dunno why I bother spoilering JasonMichael lol
We are at 14 new IPs confirmed so far this season.
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good better do it more next season
more franchises the better
 
Mariogoods said:
I don't think that they won't come again. Everything is possible.
I propose Sheldon J. Plankton VS Sharingan Spying Creature (Naruto). The connection? Look at their page
https://spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Sheldon_J._Planktonhttps://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sharingan_Spying_Creature
If you take attention, SpongeBob is well-known elsewhere.
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I am well aware Spongebob Squarepants is very popular worldwide. Just that the gross physique and hax wall of Spongebob really eliminates a lot of choices unless one decides to make them spite matchups.

Plankton vs Sharing an Spying Creature is new and can be interesting, but since it is new... One may need more promotion.

Yukari Yakumo is in a situation of Yukari vs Altair or bust
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I agree Altair is the number 1 opponent of choice against and the MU popularity among vs debaters leads the second or third by a really sizeable margin. (And by second or third I mean Dimentio and Hoopa as powerful purplish portal users - three concise close connections one ca immediately think of) Other opponents of choice suffer from coming from a who verse, have no close connections, or both.

Screw it I am adding Reimu Hakurei vs Sakura Kinomoto into my top commissioning list along with Arceus vs King Drasil and Hoopa vs Yukari Yakumo.

Mariogoods said:
League of Legends, Demon Slayer, Invincible, Akira, Predator, Warframe, 007, John Wick, SpongeBob SquarePants, The Lord of the Rings, Friday the 13th, Halloween. Any other?
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Tipper17 said:
DBH i guess
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DC Super Friends as focusing on a very specific incarnation. If you do not count the The Seven Battle Royale, The Boys/Dynamite Entertainment.
 
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