Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Greenshifter]

To quote someone else incredibly knowledgeable : “2019 was literally "Lex Luthor VS Every superhero from past, present, and future, and some villains, the Over-Monitor, Anti-Monitor, World Forger, and the Dark Multiverse".”
“Thing is, he almost won, too.”

And sure he had prep, but like does it really matter at that point?

 

[NotoriouSoda]

I've been telling you all this since the fight was announced

And honestly after dealing with off-site doom wank (Someone made a community Db on a discord solely for the purpose of wanking doom to 1-A lol) I'm outright rooting lex

You know what count me in for Lex, I just prefer him as a character over Doom

 

[Tipper17]

THEY CALLED GREEN LANTERNS A LEAGUE OF GREEN BOOT STOMPERS
Cheeky *****

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Just for ***** and giggles i wonder if they'll take into consideration the feat of Deathstroke overpowering a green lantern ring by having superior willpowr to the wielder

 

[Tipper17]

Just for ***** and giggles i wonder if they'll take into consideration the feat of Deathstroke overpowering a green lantern ring by having superior willpowr to the wielder

Probably PIS
DeathStroke had major jobber Aura

 

[Thebrawlbro]

Is that from the same issue where DS manages to take out the entire Justice League, as well as trip Flash? Because that entire fight was made to just make everyone look like jobbers.

 

[Greenshifter]

Kyle vs Simon is a bigger stomp than Ben vs Hal. Well at least if they give him life equation/entity stuff.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Another thing since there taking into account for the size for both the DC and Marvel universe, doesn't that mean Lex also has the AP and Dura advantaged?

 

[Greenshifter]

3D Size doesn’t matter in low 2-C. Though the potency of some of Lex’ devices would be higher since the cosmology is bigger.

 

[Tipper17]

Anyways the highest in terms of Speed for Doom to scale to would probably in the Quadrillion range

 

[Stefano4444]

If they're using such outlandish things for Lex, imagine what they're using for Doom?

If they decide to scale Lex to such outlandish degree, then Doom's high ends are fair game like surviving a blast from Thanos's IG.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

"Doom stomps lex"

Death battle shows feats that make doom not stomp lex

"Lex is being scaled outlandishly"

 

[Stefano4444]

Ahh low 2-C DC and Marvel heralds

More like 3-A, since they don't make any difference between Low 2-C and 3-A.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

More like 3-A, since they don't make any difference between Low 2-C and 3-A.

The researchers know the difference between Universe and Unvierse+.

From the debates I've had with them they use VSBW's tiering system, i think changing the names o fa couple things in Tier 7

 

[Dust_Collector]

I'm still rooting for Doom but I won't be surprised or upset if Lex ends up taking the win.

 

[Greenshifter]

The researchers know the difference between Universe and Unvierse+.

They could have at least scaled AX to universe+ then.

 

[Stefano4444]

The researchers know the difference between Universe and Unvierse+.

But what about Wiz and Boomstick? They aren't going to explain the difference in the fight itself.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

They could have at least scaled AX to universe+ then.

He still wouldn’t have won lol

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

But what about Wiz and Boomstick? They aren't going to explain the difference in the fight itself.

Casual viewers don't understand the difference. As long as the fight's accurate, that's what matters, no?

 

[Greenshifter]

He still wouldn’t have won lol

Sure, but at least could have done him justice and like argue him to be 2-A immeasurable speed and then just argue Hal to be (High) 1-A at peak with irrelevant speed. Would have saved me the trouble.

@ZephyrosOmega It’s preferable that they also get the stats right instead of just the outcome.

 

[Tipper17]

Casual viewers don't understand the difference. As long as the fight's accurate, that's what matters, no?

So far they went with X amount times universal for the Character's
Beerus>9x Universal
Galaxia>8x Universal (Highball)
Hulk>120x Universal(higher in the QnA)
Broly>3500x Universal (Multipliers)

 

[Tipper17]

DB literally made Marvel,DC,DB Damn near unbeatable on the show to most Series unless they have multipliers and)or volume Scaling

 

[Greenshifter]

Marvel and DC basically did that to themselves with 70-80 years of feats to pull from. Dragon Ball is probably just to satisfy the fans.

 

[Tipper17]

Marvel and DC basically did that to themselves with 70-80 years of feats to pull from. Dragon Ball is probably just to satisfy the fans.

I mean DB is composed of big ass realms as well

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Should we add Lex Luthor and Doctor Doom to the tags at the top?

 

[Greenshifter]

I mean DB is composed of big ass realms as well

... There’s a single 5D statement you can use for canon DB and it’s contradicted. Meanwhile you can argue the second lowest plane in DC (the Bleed) to be 1-A...

 

[Greenshifter]

This also implies everyone who moves freely in the Bleed has irrelevant speed as well as anyone who scales to them. So rip both Doom and Simon in a single scan. (Although there are probably better examples)

 

[Tipper17]

This also implies everyone who moves freely in the Bleed has irrelevant speed as well as anyone who scales to them. So rip both Doom and Simon in a single scan. (Although there are probably better examples)

Huh So there's scan of Kyle in the bleed

 

[NotoriouSoda]

This also implies everyone who moves freely in the Bleed has irrelevant speed as well as anyone who scales to them. So rip both Doom and Simon in a single scan. (Although there are probably better examples)

Wow so Simon dies even harder than before

 

[Tipper17]

Ya know i feel whenever they do Kyle vs Simon I want to them to includ ION Kyle to start him off

 

[Tipper17]

Wow so Simon dies even harder than before

I find it funny how the MU came into existence and how the verdict Flip Flops regarding it

 

[Greenshifter]

I find it funny how the MU came into existence and how the verdict Flip Flops regarding it

It truly is Ben vs Hal 2.0

 

[Tipper17]

It truly is Ben vs Hal 2.0

How many Causals are fully aware of TTGL and how active the Fanbase is these day's?

 

[Epiccheev]

I want this DB to happen just to see some new GL (Gurren Lagann, not Green Lantern) content after all these years.
If it looks good it might even get new people to watch it.

 

[Greenshifter]

I mean sure the backlash will be less, it’s still less popular than Ben 10 pretty sure. People are also aware this time that lanterns are OP and it won’t be a perfect storm like last time due to Kuro’s vid and all. But like there will probably be a decent amount of salt and people would say DB wanks DC and all, although if they just make Simon High 1-C this time there’ll be less complaints since they at least portrayed him accurately.

 

[The_Smashor]

TehGM just released Zamasu vs Goetia (Ironic since I just mentioned Goetia). Track's a bop and it has pretty good connections all things considered.

 

[Tipper17]

I mean sure the backlash will be less, it’s still less popular than Ben 10 pretty sure. People are also aware this time that lanterns are OP and it won’t be a perfect storm like last time due to Kuro’s vid and all. But like there will probably be a decent amount of salt and people would say DB wanks DC and all, although if they just make Simon High 1-C this time there’ll be less complaints since they at least portrayed him accurately.

I think it'll be a match in DC And boils down to Hax like I mentioned before

TehGM just released Zamasu vs Goetia (Ironic since I just mentioned Goetia). Track's a bop and it has pretty good connections all things considered.

Yep heard it it's neat

 

[Greenshifter]

I think it'll be a match in DC And boils down to Hax like I mentioned before

I don’t see how they can scale Kyle to High 1-C at all. I mean he has High 1-A scaling with the life equation (and probably lower than High 1-C with Ion or in base, unless you want to play the variable tier card and scale him to peak Hal) so it should only boil down to speed and AP really and Kyle very likely has the advantage in hax potency if it somehow boils down to hax.

 

[EJthe24th]

So if Iron Man vs Lex Luthor happened now, who'd win?

Second question: Is Iron Man Herald?

Hulk>120x Universal(higher in the QnA)
Broly>3500x Universal (Multipliers)

Third Question: Shouldn't Hulk be near Broly since he fought the avatar of TOBA, who one-shotted Mephisto?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Marvel and DC basically did that to themselves with 70-80 years of feats to pull from. Dragon Ball is probably just to satisfy the fans.

Pretty sure comics have always done that no? Though I wish to that now a days they'd stop being mediocre