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No he doesn't. There is no moment in those scans which state a limit of 11 dimensions. Meanwhile Infinite Dimensions are stated often.
And again, you are derailing this thread despite request from myself and Ant.
And again, you are derailing this thread despite request from myself and Ant.
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Matthew, can you refute my argument at least instead of saying "it's wrong, why yes"? After all, this only shows that you are being partial, you have several lucid people seeing the opposite.
And I found it totally disrespectful you as an administrator, close the post that contextualized the arguments, and try to bring it here, where the Antvasima and others are watching.
And I found it totally disrespectful you as an administrator, close the post that contextualized the arguments, and try to bring it here, where the Antvasima and others are watching.
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I already refuted you the moment I showed DeMatteis confirming it as infinite spatial dimensions.
It's not disrespectful, it's just having common sense. None of them scans state that there are only 11 dimensions. Meanwhile the scans confirming infinite dimensions are very clear on it. As is the 199,833th Dimensional Snowflake called dimensional space.
Not sure what the disrespectful part is when you were being disrespectful yourself and were warned for it
It's not disrespectful, it's just having common sense. None of them scans state that there are only 11 dimensions. Meanwhile the scans confirming infinite dimensions are very clear on it. As is the 199,833th Dimensional Snowflake called dimensional space.
Not sure what the disrespectful part is when you were being disrespectful yourself and were warned for it
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Well I mean there are several people here you know about DC and could help clear things up instead of a thread with only a single person arguing for the other side.
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Disrespectful for not agreeing with your line of thought, ok...Matthew Schroeder said:
And the examples you're using, I refuted in the other post. So he closed it because yes, that's being partial, when some people were no longer supporting his argumentative idea.
See, I have no problem in showing more than once that this flake of dimensional space is actually parallel universes.
| What we call "reality" is an array on 196,833 parallel universes arranged in a snowflake pattern. | ||
~ Jakita Wagner |
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That's not the reason you were warned. Reppuzan warned you two hours ago because you were being immature and impatient. And you still are.
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Like I said in the other thread, I have no idea why you all are focusing so much on the Snowflake when the Scan itself explicitly states that there is 196,883-Dimensional Space, and it is what contains the Snowflake.
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did not have just one person on the topic.
When I said one person I was talking about how only one person was arguing for DC plus a few people on that thread seemed biased against DC.
Thats why this should have been brought here in the first place as there are several people knowledgeable on DC here.
When I said one person I was talking about how only one person was arguing for DC plus a few people on that thread seemed biased against DC.
Thats why this should have been brought here in the first place as there are several people knowledgeable on DC here.
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Dude, even if the few scans you provided were evidence of 11-D, they have been refuted several times over by numerous other scans clearly and objectively proving that DC has infinite spatial dimensions.
This is an established fact that any remotely trustworthy website will attest to.
This is an established fact that any remotely trustworthy website will attest to.
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I think asking him to drop the subject permanently is too extreme. At least a new thread should be made so people can politely discuss DC's Tiering without throwing accusations around and showcasing a disrespectful tone.
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Lol
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Ant, trust me, Matthew hasn't refuted her at all.Antvasima said:
Also, she's not derailing a thread, Matthew prematurely closed another thread she was using to give her claims ground.
Matthew was the one wasting time and energy saying things like this:
"Matthew Schroeder
They call it spatial dimensions in the comic. Accept it.
an hour ago"
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It's not really necessary for the "entire" vsbattle community to participate.
It's a very simple case. The scans state that there are infinite spatial dimensions, and the author confirmed it on twitter. Meanwhile none of the M-Theory quotes even bring up a limit of 11 dimensions. That much never happens.
So to argue that the infinite spatial dimensions are just "parallel universes" via your interpretation of the text, while pushing something which is blatantly not the case as fact is the height of dishonesty.
It's a very simple case. The scans state that there are infinite spatial dimensions, and the author confirmed it on twitter. Meanwhile none of the M-Theory quotes even bring up a limit of 11 dimensions. That much never happens.
So to argue that the infinite spatial dimensions are just "parallel universes" via your interpretation of the text, while pushing something which is blatantly not the case as fact is the height of dishonesty.
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It's objectively not an interpretation:Matthew Schroeder said:
The characters call it Universes
The Zoom in objectively proves it to be Universes
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They don't contradict each other. The snowflake which contains 196,833 universes exists in 196,833th dimensional space.
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I believe I recall twitter post not being a reliable source of evidence, similar to universal Mundus?
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It's good that those aren't the scans I use to build my case. It's the Sena and Rama Kushna scans both which state infinite spatial dimensions. Also the infinitely-layered multiverse of Lucifer Comics.
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Nevermind the existence of the Metaverse, which includes Infinite ^ Infinite universes. That alone confirms High 1-B.
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What?Alonik said:
The snowflake contains 196,833 universes, and is itself contained in 196,833th dimensional space. It's not complicated nor contradictory.
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It's never stated that Mxy is above the Metaverse. However, it is stated that the Metaverse is infinite ^ infinite universes being created.
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Matthew Schroeder said:
How is 196,833 if it is within the bleed? what is 4D. It has a 4Dth dimensional structure, and is spinning within the fifth dimension. So it's actually contradictory, and it's a case of interpretation. Since in fact there are 196,833 universes that exist within a 4Dth space, which is the bleed, the wall of the Multiverse.
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the space which contains the snowflake isn't the Bleed. That came much later.
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"There is no time here, and no space. So all things are layered on themselves endlessly, and perception twists around its own axis until it is blinded by fullness, crippled by infinite repetition."
Lucifer explains how he exists in a timeless, spatialess void and how he can see that things are layered infinitely from his perspective.
Lucifer explains that the concepts of time, space and infinity are simply extensions of mind and will, which he embodies as he is the Divine Will which shapes reality.
The concept of dimension was invented by the angels during creation.
In Lucifer #69, Elaine Belloc flies across all of creation to The Void, while enveloping creation. She was literally ascending from layer to layer of reality until reaching the void
Just another example of how infinite dimensions is consistent.
Lucifer explains how he exists in a timeless, spatialess void and how he can see that things are layered infinitely from his perspective.
Lucifer explains that the concepts of time, space and infinity are simply extensions of mind and will, which he embodies as he is the Divine Will which shapes reality.
The concept of dimension was invented by the angels during creation.
In Lucifer #69, Elaine Belloc flies across all of creation to The Void, while enveloping creation. She was literally ascending from layer to layer of reality until reaching the void
Just another example of how infinite dimensions is consistent.
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Bleed was where they traveled in planetary comic, to go to each of those dimensions of the snowflake. Only after they discovered that it was better to go through the walls of the multiverse. It did not come later, it's already something from there.
This is quite clear, It does not have anything to do with it.
This is quite clear, It does not have anything to do with it.
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Yeah in this case they just asked J.M. DeMatteis if Sena was traveling through spatial dimensions and he said yes.
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