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That should be useful to scale from, yes.
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DC Hold back revision
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Comic books in general are inconsistent, don't say it as if it's only superman. And I get your point on superman, yes he struggles with 4-B characters at times sometimes lesser than later does teir 2 or teir 1 feats and later reverts to struggling again with lesser. It don't know why writer's make it so or maybe because his some good dichotomy or just plot convince.
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Why is the plot convenience only for the lower end? Why aren't the ridiculously high ends you bring up plot conveniences, Teezar? Because you want it to be that way?
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Why is the plot convenience only for the lower end? Why aren't the ridiculously high ends you bring up plot conveniences, Teezar? Because you want it to be that way?
It's exactly the same logic you used right now, and no you're trying to recontextualize old feats as logical outliers, no one here is dumb, unless you're not and are just typing out stuff in a very silly way.
???? Thread isn't about that. How many times do I have to explain Jesus Christ.
Is reading tough?
If you're not insinuating it you shouldn't mention it. Debating 101
I doubt that he doesn't know.
...because the verses are comparable and this is a Marvel standard that was translated for DC applicability? Is correlation tough?
Meh can we do this abit later? Currently I feel like this may delay the tier creation process abit
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Yeah, it was on NarutoForums but I don't remember the link anymore.
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Well, if it was a Narutoforums calculation, it would likely be best if it was copied to a blog post in the wiki and evaluated.
If that is not possible, maybe Amelia can calculate it instead?
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These scans specifically
Supes in Superman Beyond said he had to push the sun within a few hours to destroy it due to his suit's unperfected protections. Apparently it was still daytime when he went back to Earth.
Supes in Superman Beyond said he had to push the sun within a few hours to destroy it due to his suit's unperfected protections. Apparently it was still daytime when he went back to Earth.
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Found the moon calc:
www.fanverse.org
Calc Requests, part 13
From my calc request blog (yes, it's back again). 1. Bunny saves girl from falling debris (Tiger and Bunny, requested by dubledolix09) This is going to be complicated. We'll start by scaling the outside of this dome structure: A...
www.fanverse.org
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Isn't Superman Beyond a different universe (Earth 12)
I'm also following this but I agree with not scaling everyone to Supes (I do think there's stuff higher then 5-A tho)
I'm also not too fond on the Varies thing
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Hmm, we should calc it in our wiki, I am not sure if we can use others wikis calcs and blogs, maybe something is wrong in the calculation?Found the moon calc:
Calc Requests, part 13
From my calc request blog (yes, it's back again). 1. Bunny saves girl from falling debris (Tiger and Bunny, requested by dubledolix09) This is going to be complicated. We'll start by scaling the outside of this dome structure: A...
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Nah, that Superman wears a silver and black suit, the Kryptonite Moon Superman wore the classic blue-and-red.
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We use NarutoForums (Now Fanverse) calcs that have been accepted there in the past, no problem with that. Also as far as I can see I don't necessarily see much wrong with the calculations aside from some minor angle inconveniences that were eventually resolved in the OG calc, but the Kryptonite moon itself is much larger than our moon.
Only reason we need to put it in our blog posts now is because there's no telling when the sites will go kaput or move addresses.
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Well, our standards have gone stricter, and we are no longer dependent on Narutoforums/Fanverse calculations, so we should preferably have them copied to blogs in our wiki and evaluated by our calc group members nowadays, for safety reasons.
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Ah never mind then
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Actually, I read the comic a bit, he isn't Earth-1 Superman, but his suit has red inlines in his S-symbol alongside red shoulder pads. IDK what Superman that is. Plus he has the classic S hair thing on his forehead, which IIRC New 52 Supes doesn't. And grey hair sides
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@The_Impress Mind if I give my thoughts on the list you made or should we get the holding back for Supes applied first?
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Upgrade everyone and their grandmas is what I've been hearing from you since in entered this platform. And best teir isn't always a downgrade lmao even upgrades can be best teir for characters if it's consistent which is what we are doing. And I don't even remember anyone trying to upgrade anyone on this thread.
Shouldn't we distinguish between his lifting force feats and AP
Everything is basically plot convenience yes I don't actually deny it. But top teir and lower teir feat and I'm saying example superman in new 52 could lifting the earth for 5 days straight without sunlight and in rebirth/frontier he now struggles to pull a spaceship from the gravitational pull of a black hole all are obviously plot convenience on how the writer wants to story to go even in the same story.
Plus if a character numerous number of top teir feats. I feel the Lower one's will also need to have keys. I think it's better that way.
What logic did I use and I don't get what you mean by recontextualize old feats as outliers?
Tbh ,I don't even understand you now.
Someone brought the notion superman feats aren't done casually so I gave a logical example that's always been happening to superman as in character.
Antvasima just said he sent him a message earlier today so yes he didn't know cause i know he would have given his input.
Are comparable doesn't change the fact they are different franchise. And yes many verses are comparable you don't try to scale them same as if they are 1 franchise itself.
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It's both an LS and AP feat tho (Not to mention that the objects he is moving is gargantuan and at high speeds), there's a timeframe given and we can figure out the mass.
Kinetic energy for large objects is allowed, especially when you're moving large planets.
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Just a note that Impress sent Firestorm a notification yesterday as well.
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Prolly he didn't see it or online then.
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At this point tbh, you're just lowkey wasting my time, none of the shit you state is relevant, or makes sense to begin with, not to mention this is going in a CRT.
Y'know just DM me your thread-irrelevant problems and we'll sort it there. Textwall responses are only useful when the user understands them, you clearly admit to not.
We're doing either right now it seems, though better to clarify latter first.
And meh I didn't make the list itself so you're better off asking the OP :v
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Except I don't have any problem with this thread lmao. I only gave my input comic books in general are inconsistent.
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...so good. Moving on.
Core standard is awaiting agreement from either Firestorm or Qawsedf now I suppose.
Core standard is awaiting agreement from either Firestorm or Qawsedf now I suppose.
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...Anyway.
If this thread si accepted, I'll make another discussing whether or not 5-A or High 5-A should be used I suppose, since John also has a feat on that caliber.
If this thread si accepted, I'll make another discussing whether or not 5-A or High 5-A should be used I suppose, since John also has a feat on that caliber.
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Pretty much. We have had many many discussions over the years about tier 2 Superman, and I am extremely tired of them. It is better to let Firestorm finish his project in that regard.
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Sorry for the late reply. I have to read over everything soon.
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Also, no one has commented any contributions to the feat timeline and plotting doc.
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I can help where I'm needed. Im doing something similar for Green Lantern
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not the point here Ant, individual scaling comes later
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Shazam family is a blank, looks good though!
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For me most of them are blank other than Superman's
