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Oh no I meant like literally blank, but that may be a glitch on my end because for some reason now it's appearing for Superman and Shazam but the other ones are completely blank.
 
At least on my end there isn't any kind of sheets link, only links there are to the timeline and clarifications docs unless im missing something
 
Thank you for helping out.

I would appreciate if Impress and Amelia make use of Firestorm's previous work regarding this subject.
 
Unlike Imp-ress with Marvel, I am not an nigh-all encompassing DC lore expert. I have read dozens of Green Lantern and Superman t prepare for this thread but I do not know everything.

That said, our Larfleeze page should probably be deleted as is. There's no scans to justify his stats, and there's a good chance it's a composite of Post-Crisis and Flashpoint continuities, given it seems to be based off a respect thread that uses both.
 
In general alot of DC pages are like, genuinely trash and should be deleted off the wiki for giving fuckall justifications and scans
 
So you volunteer to work on them, then?

Great I'll DM you the characters.
Don't jump into conclusions miss. I only said remaking is better than deletion but I can help in some certain characters that need reworking.
The process would just be deleting the public page if it is just outright inaccurate but saving a copy in a sandbox for editing.
Ok then.
Remaking them from scratch is much much easier than reworking them.
It's better to rework them as remaking will take a lot of time.
 
What are the questionable profiles?
I'll DM you, mostly pages that don't have proper scans and citations, as well as blank P&A descriptions.
Don't jump into conclusions miss. I only said remaking is better than deletion but I can help in some certain characters that need reworking.
If you don't wanna help and just wanna be a backseat driver, shouldn't give proposals to begin with, just saying.
 
It's better to rework them as remaking will take a lot of time.
No, not really. Trust me, remaking some from the scratch is so much easier and better. Especially for the page mentioned above which needs complete overhaul. Plus no need to wait weeks for a crt to finish


Anyway, back to the topic at hand. So, what do we really need to do here?
 
Just a note that Larfleeze is likely supposed to be comparable to the emotional entities such as Parallax.
 
I'll DM you, mostly pages that don't have proper scans and citations, as well as blank P&A descriptions.

If you don't wanna help and just wanna be a backseat driver, shouldn't give proposals to begin with, just saying.
Of course I wanna help that's why I'm hear and I even gave the same opinion in the shinza thread. I don't just think it's good to delete pages when they can be fixed.
No, not really. Trust me, remaking some from the scratch is so much easier and better. Especially for the page mentioned above which needs complete overhaul. Plus no need to wait weeks for a crt to finish


Anyway, back to the topic at hand. So, what do we really need to do here?
True.
 
Just a note that Larfleeze is likely supposed to be comparable to the emotional entities such as Parallax.
If Larfleeze is supposed to be a completely different tier from Superman and everyone else, isn't that beyond the scope of this thread?

I do want this thread completed so it's preferable to not bulk it up with topics unrelated :v
 
Larfleeze should have a varied tier between 5-A to 2C, which includes 4-B too... But yeah, we can deal with that in Green Lanterns thread. Amelia is already working on one.
 
Just wanna say one thing about this bit;
Billy Batson is a complicated case since sometimes, he fights Superman via inherently exploiting his weakness to magic,
Billy's power is divine in nature, more like cosmic than magic. This is an instance where the author got it wrong. But caps power has always been developed as divine/cosmic rather than magic.
 
Just wanna say one thing about this bit;

Billy's power is divine in nature, more like cosmic than magic. This is an instance where the author got it wrong. But caps power has always been developed as divine/cosmic rather than magic.
Im fine with removing that bit and treating him the same as Superman.
 
Anyways @Antvasima

I think this is sufficient input to put the standards in place? No one really disagreed except Greenshifter whose... point just doesn't make sense
 
I think this is sufficient input to put the standards in place? No one really disagreed except Greenshifter whose... point just doesn't make sense
This is probably fine, yes.
 
Okay. Please add all of the accepted new calculations as well.
 
Just wanna say one thing about this bit;

Billy's power is divine in nature, more like cosmic than magic. This is an instance where the author got it wrong. But caps power has always been developed as divine/cosmic rather than magic.
Shouldn't DOV shazam be added to his profile after this thread is done?
 
Day of vengeance shazam in post crisis. I mean he should be added and given a teir after this thread.
 
Agreed with Impress.

His profile needs heavy revisions, but that's a discussion for different time.
 
But yeah from this point onwards, I don't want any derailment whatsoever, I will just straight up delete stuff that's not relevant to the thread at hand.

If you have disagreements with the way a file looks, derailment, this thread isn't general makeover revision project

If you have any disagreements with the CURRENT rating, pre-revision, AND the REVISED ratint, derailment, you're proposing a stat rework for that current character

If you have any disagreements with using the 4-B rating as a whole, and want said tier to be higher or lower, derailment, this isn't "ANYTHING RELATED TO 4-BS" thread.

And so on and so forth

Read the OP and the blog, refute THAT, and not any random shit you happen to notice on the file, this thread has been a victim of random unrelated revision pushing already, and at this rate it'll never get finished unless we focus
 
Well, Sinestro, Cyborg Superman, Brainiac, and to a lesser degree Krypto and Amazo, seem like important pages to keep that should be relatively easy to scale power levels for.
 
Well, Sinestro, Cyborg Superman, Brainiac, and to a lesser degree Krypto and Amazo, seem like important pages to keep that should be relatively easy to scale power levels for.
Theyre important, but their pages are also horribly unreliable and in some cases, composites. If someone made a horrible Hawkman page, the page wouldn't be kept just because Hawkman is a iconic(ish) character, I don't see why the same logic would be applied to keep the pages. If it helps, I'm already planning on making a better page for Sinestro, Cyborg Superman, and Brainaic, and I can just go ahead and finish my Solomon Grundy rework this week.
 
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