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I don’t think so, Hal has stated that it’s possible for him to take out the entire JL, and when some of his leftover willpower took form, it actually did.
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DC Hold back revision
- Thread starter Amelia_Lonelyheart
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Not at their very very peak, but at their 4-B key, I think Superman does, but just sometimes.
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Unrelated, but I love what he did to Barry lol.
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Using him as a superpowered slingshot is pretty funny lol
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the galaxy feat looks pre crisis, the universal one is with all the green lanternsAlso, Amelia seems to have found some Green Lantern feats that are blatantly far higher than 4-B:
Green Lantern Power Ring
The Green Lantern Power Ring, also known as the Magic Ring to some, is an ancient and unbelievably powerful weapon created by the Guardians of the Universe in order to protect and maintain peace in the vast universe. As a lantern dies or in very rare cases, retires, their ring is passed on to...vsbattles.fandom.com
Should we scale from them?
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It is not. COIE ended in 86 and the feat is from 88. Two years into Post-Crisis
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It's looking that way is probably because Green Lantern doesn't go through Crisis, we're inducing a baseline onto him for consistency purposes
Also Amelia made a case no one ever should scale to Green Lanterns
Also Amelia made a case no one ever should scale to Green Lanterns
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I definitely agree with not scaling anyone to them. Especially Hal, I don’t even think other GLs should scale to his peak, but I’ll go into more detail when Amelia makes a thread for GL.
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"the collective power of the rings could collapse Oa into a blackhole capable of destroying the universe"Green Lantern Power Ring
The Green Lantern Power Ring, also known as the Magic Ring to some, is an ancient and unbelievably powerful weapon created by the Guardians of the Universe in order to protect and maintain peace in the vast universe. As a lantern dies or in very rare cases, retires, their ring is passed on to...
I don't believe this means the rings are 3-A. The built up of power from those would make the planet blow up, only the planet, and then from that it's triggered the black hole. From how I see it, their hax (Gravity Manip) was on that level while the rest of their sheer power isn't, hence their power being unleashed only destroys a planet and not the universe, like the side effect of it generates.
"Anarky was able to shrink down an entire universe to the size of a plank length and defeated a being who could manipulate the laws of the universe to the point of destroying it."
I'm confused over if what I see there is what the text says, I see the characters in a future where the universe is warped and the go back to the present by messing with some distance somehow? But I don't see anyone shrinking the univere with a ring, or destroying it. And could it be that the latter is hax too? Size Manip is always used as not the same as AP/how hard one can punch others, other extravagant powers with Universal range could destroy it without saying anything of the user's ability to punch others too.
"Green Lantern Flodo could contain an entire galaxy within his his fold and destroyed it"
I think this misses context, I see GLs making a bubble, a weird one going outside of it, dying but not being dead, him helping the other GLs with the bubble, moving it away but being back with them? Idk what's going on.
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Eh, a lot of JLA member have been shown to match him. Like Barry nearly broke his ring along with Wally
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Wally casually one shotted in his construct in rebirth which almost destroyed his ring and Wally wasn't even serious or trying to harm him.
Besides batman has also taken out an evil version of the justice league with justice buster suit tho later destroyed by the evil version of superman and in recent book I think batman called wally the most dangerous justice league character.
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- Green Lantern Legacy: The Last Will and Testament of Hal Jordan January 2002
- When some of Hal’s leftover willpower was given form, it was able to shield from Wonder Woman's and Martian Manhunter's attacks.
- The manifestation defeated them indirectly rather than physically.
- Redirected Flash onto the others.
- It mind-manipulated Superman.
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Well, you see, Hal did have this example of supposedly being the strongest, but pretty much everyone had one at some point. Overall, he’s not treated as the strongest in the league
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Currently it's wonder woman
Now she isn't in the league currently batman states it's wally don't remember the issue.
But overall I think it's believe the be superman. But just my opinion.
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Regarding Wonder woman, my findings have the following scaling
Herackles < Wonder Woman < or = Superman
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Diana is one of the few characters who actually could fight Superman who was going to kill her. She still is weaker though.
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Why not just scale her to Superman and co. just like that? Superman already scales to a bunch of 5-B and High 5-A feats when not at full power.
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...what is left to do here again? From the OP that is.
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Can we lock this thread? I'm working on its successor threads over time but give me time instead of posting willy nilly.
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KLOL is free to give a rewritten justification, but fast.
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How about this?
"At least 5-B, possibly High 5-A (Comparable to Superman, who pushed Mageddon, pulled Earth with a chain made out of the Green Lantern Corps' willpower and threw a compressed solar system out of Earth)
The compressed solar system IIRC was re-calced to be 5-B-ish by Firestorm, I think.
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Wasn't there another High 5-A calc for Superman surviving the Sunspike? That should probably be on his page, unless there was a problem I'm not aware of.
Also I don't think we need to list the Superman feats that WW scales to, we should probably just link to the Superman page.
Also I don't think we need to list the Superman feats that WW scales to, we should probably just link to the Superman page.
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The calc was bad because I didn't use Red-Giant size for Rao and instead just used a regular sun. Using a Red-Giant might make it FTL, but I haven't gotten around to it.
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Is somebody here willing to handle this please?
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Here is the page that needs to be edited:
vsbattles.fandom.com
Also, tell me here which DC Comics character profile pages that need to be re-locked after we are done with this.
Wonder Woman (Post-Crisis)
Molded from clay by her mother, Hippolyta, and blessed by the Greek gods to become as "beautiful as Aphrodite, wise as Athena, stronger than Hercules, and swifter than Mercury", Diana of Themyscira was destined for greatness. The Princess of the Amazons was a dauntless warrior whose prowess on...
vsbattles.fandom.com
Also, tell me here which DC Comics character profile pages that need to be re-locked after we are done with this.
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So should I just write "Almost comparable to Superman" and keep it at that?Here is the page that needs to be edited:
Wonder Woman (Post-Crisis)
Molded from clay by her mother, Hippolyta, and blessed by the Greek gods to become as "beautiful as Aphrodite, wise as Athena, stronger than Hercules, and swifter than Mercury", Diana of Themyscira was destined for greatness. The Princess of the Amazons was a dauntless warrior whose prowess on...
Also, tell me here which DC Comics character profile pages that need to be re-locked after we are done with this.
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Unfortunately I haven't read that storyline, so some help regarding which scans to use would be appreciated.
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There's scans of people explictly saying she's almost Superman's equal. Here, it states she rivals Clark's strength and exceeds J'ohns. Here, it states she's equal to a (mind controlled/holding back) Superman. Here, it puts her, Clark, Billy Batson, and J'ohn in the same tier. And here, it states Captain Atom, Captain Marvel, Superman and Wonder Woman are the "Greatest concentrated force of brute superpower" ever established
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I can make the edits and citations later today.
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