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DC Comics: The new Neron page

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Hello.

I am uncertain regarding why this character is scaled the way that he is, especially as the version of The Spectre that he is scaled from is rated as 2-A if I have understood correctly. Helpful input would be appreciated.

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Neron (Pre-Flashpoint)

Neron is a powerful Demon King who has been making deals with various heroes and supervillains to give them something they want in exchange for their souls. He has been an enemy of The Spectre, Deadman, the Justice League, and other magical beings until he was defeated by Lord Satanus and Blaze...
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Also, would somebody be willing to clean up the language structure in the above page. I did some of that myself, but not enough.

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For someone who monitors every aspect of wiki activity, you don't seem to understand the way a CRT is done.

You need to present an actual argument against the statistics of the profiles, instead of just saying "I don't like these stats, we should change them." This is a consistent problem with you and comics, Ant. Every single time something like this comes up, you never give an actual reason besides "I don't like it" which is not a reasoning in of itself.

I would expect more from you.
 
Ant this is a bad look. You can't just make a CRT because something "looks wrong". If you want the rating adjusted you're going to have to come up with sources and backing.

From a surface glance everything looks fine. It's a perfectly normal comics page. It has references and scans. All that's missing is the note they usually put for comics profiles. I don't see anything wrong with this from a quality standpoint.
 
The regular post-Crisis Spectre, who Neron seems to be scaled from for some reason, is not rated that high as far as I am aware, and he was shown to be far more powerful than Neron during "Day of Judgement".
 
I am also uncertain what feats exactly that this page is scaled from otherwise that would rate as high as Low 1-C and why.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
Ant this is a bad look. You can't just make a CRT because something "looks wrong". If you want the rating adjusted you're going to have to come up with sources and backing.

From a surface glance everything looks fine. It's a perfectly normal comics page. It has references and scans. All that's missing is the note they usually put for comics profiles. I don't see anything wrong with this from a quality standpoint.
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It isn't about quality, other than that I had to clean up the wording in the summary and that there are likely other sentence structure errors, but I wanted to make certain that the statistics are not inaccurate by calling for help in this regard.
 
Antvasima said:
The regular post-Crisis Spectre, who Neron seems to be scaled from for some reason, is not rated that high as far as I am aware, and he was shown to be far more powerful than Neron during "Day of Judgement".
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That is a supporting feat of his lower avatar forms...

Antvasima said:
It isn't about quality, other than that I had to clean up the wording in the summary and that there are likely other sentence structure errors, but I wanted to make certain that the statistics are not inaccurate by calling for help in this regard.
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The statistics are perfectly fine. Just read the whole thing.
 
Basically, I was doing my regular daily wiki patrolling work, and wanted to make sure that this new page that was posted was acceptable, as it seemed suspicious, and since I couldn't find a general DC Comics discussion thread, I posted this one instead. I am not sure what else I should have done.
 
Antvasima said:
I am also uncertain what feats exactly that this page is scaled from otherwise that would rate as high as Low 1-C and why.
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Coming back to answer this:

He is scaled to be an aspect of and manipulating the entirety of Hell, which is a reflection of the Silver City, which is entirely above the infinite multiverse.

Seems correct to me, at the very least.

Now imma go back to sleep, peace
 
Confluctor said:
That is a supporting feat of his lower avatar forms...
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Has he ever been stated or shown to use avatars? He does not seem to have been portrayed that way, as regular superheroes can interact mostly normally with him in Hell, for example.
Confluctor said:
The statistics are perfectly fine. Just read the whole thing.
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Okay. Please elaborate/explain further.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Coming back to answer this:

He is scaled to be an aspect of and manipulating the entirety of Hell, which is a reflection of the Silver City, which is entirely above the infinite multiverse.

Seems correct to me, at the very least.

Now imma go back to sleep, peace
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Hmm. I suppose that seems reasonable, yes, unless it was just an individual universe-sized part of Hell, or he was temporarily powered up, or somesuch.
 
Jinsye said:
For someone who monitors every aspect of wiki activity, you don't seem to understand the way a CRT is done.

You need to present an actual argument against the statistics of the profiles, instead of just saying "I don't like these stats, we should change them." This is a consistent problem with you and comics, Ant. Every single time something like this comes up, you never give an actual reason besides "I don't like it" which is not a reasoning in of itself.

I would expect more from you.
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I have very limited time available, especially when I am simultaneously busy with edit-patrolling, so I have to make do with asking others for input rather than spending many hours investigating on my own.
 
Antvasima said:
Basically, I was doing my regular daily wiki patrolling work, and wanted to make sure that this new page that was posted was acceptable, as it seemed suspicious, and since I couldn't find a general DC Comics discussion thread, I posted this one instead. I am not sure what else I should have done.
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I see. It would have cleared up initial concerns if you elaborated on your questions regarding the scaling chain being used in the OP.

I recommend revising the OP now to add those clarifying questions.
 
Antvasima said:
Has he ever been stated or shown to use avatars? He does not seem to have been portrayed that way, as regular superheroes can interact mostly normally with him in Hell, for example.
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Let me rephrase, it is for his forms he takes when he interacts with the lower worlds
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Okay. Please elaborate/explain further.
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Mate, it's on the file itself, what do you mean explain further
 
yes, I forgot some details but I already had a CRT almost ready where I was going to put the Specter in Low 1-C and eliminate Asmodel's key, because he literally only appears for 4 numbers and nobody fights directly against him.
 
Firestorm808 said:
I see. It would have cleared up initial concerns if you elaborated on your questions regarding the scaling chain being used in the OP.

I recommend revising the OP now to add those clarifying questions.
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I have done so now.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
People, I think you are overreacting a little. Just a simple clarification and that's it.
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Should've been posted on the Q&A Board. Posting a CRT with zero elaboration gives the impression an OP wants to downgrade stats purely because it doesn't feel right to them personally.

I can see why it rubbed folks the wrong way.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Should've been posted on the Q&A Board. Posting a CRT with zero elaboration gives the impression an OP wants to downgrade stats purely because it doesn't feel right to them personally.

I can see why it rubbed folks the wrong way.
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Well, I did not intend it that way. I just didn't think that far.

We can move this thread to the other forum if you wish.
 
I am not sure why this dogpiling is going on. He said pretty clearly in the OP that the main justification for the 1-C rating was scaling to a 2-A form of Spectre and that struck him as wrong and was just looking for some feedback. Hardly a mortal sin.
 
Because it was a CRT, and it was worded extremely off at the start. In addition to, the rest of the justification is more than fine. A bit of extra context has never hurt anyone.

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Well, I was focused on my wiki patrolling at the time, and couldn't find a general discussion thread for DC Comics via the search function, so I did not sufficiently think through how to handle this properly.

Anyway, let's move on please.
 
Confluctor said:
Since its done, should be closed, no?
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Well, the page in question still likely needs to have its language structure cleaned up if somebody is willing to check through it.
Confluctor said:
Also, I will go ahead and make a DC general Discussion thread. It would be easier for stuff like this
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Yes, that would help. Thank you.
 
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