DBS upgrade, the lengendary super speed sandwich

[Brogeefrong]

no decillion!!!!! agreed

 

[TiltedFN]

why is base gogeta slower than post ui 2 ssjbkkx20 goku?

 

[Brogeefrong]

why is base gogeta slower than post ui 2 ssjbkkx20 goku?

Koku didnt use it on borul, so kovegu is only at ssjb

 

[Omegabronic]

why is base gogeta slower than post ui 2 ssjbkkx20 goku?

ask @SSJRyu1 he has the blog, my guess is that no proof of him scaling to goku at ssjbkkx20

 

[TiltedFN]

Koku didnt use it on borul, so kovegu is only at ssjb

clearly goku figured there was no need to use it because it wouldn't have mattered anyway, same for vegeta using blue evo.

 

[Eseseso]

I'll save my points on it for the new thread, to avoid derailing this one.

Same.

Scaling itself in the Op is fine.

 

[Matrixxxx]

agree.

 

[denisnic55]

Spoiler: a little diversion for memes, making fun of some situation i have faced here and how ironic this thread being made by me of all people is lol

Omega is doing an Speed upgrade for db, all of you that were mean and that called a downplayer and some other "not worth speaking" things can now no longer call me that, oh the nightmare, your name calling is invalid for now, for i am delivering the pie that you will all like, and now you can't just go against it, since you know you like it, mwahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

ahem, please ignore that upper part, i just couldn't hold myself back, let us proceed to the good stuff shall we?

DBS Battle of Gods speed recalc

vsbattles.fandom.com

no need to say more, now the BoGs feat is accepted as 118.25 sextillion times ftl, Following the the conservative multiplier blog these are the changes to the currently "likely" ratings:

Spoiler: scaling chain multiplier shenanigans

Suppressed Beerus/Base DBS Goku Post BoG - 118.25 sextillion c

SSJ Goku - 59.125 septilion c

SSJ2, SSJ3, and SSJG Goku - At least 59.125 septilion c, likely far higher

Pre-Goku Black Saga SSJB Goku - At least 295.625 septilion c, likely far higher

SSJB KKx10 (U6 Saga) Goku - At least 2.9562 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku from Hit rematch and onwards - At least 2.9562 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB KKx20 Goku (beginning of ToP) - At least 59.124 Octilion c, likely far higher

UIO1 and UIO2 Goku - At least 59.124 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku (Post UIO2) - At least 59.124 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku KKx20 (Post UIO2) - At least 1.18248 Nonilion c, likely far higher

Base Gogeta - At least 59.124 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJ Gogeta - At least 2.956 Noniilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Gogeta - At least 147.8 Noniilion c, likely far higher

SSJ (Full Power) Broly - At least 147.8 Noniilion c, likely far higher

UIO3 Goku - At least 147.8 Noniilion c, likely far higher

MUI Goku - At least 147.8 Noniilion c, likely far higher

this will luckily be a quick change

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks okay.

 

[StekFence]

Looks okay.

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t this go against the standards for multipliers?

 

[Robo432343]

change the standards and this is good to go
ez

 

[StekFence]

change the standards and this is good to go

The irony

 

[Khanhba01]

Bump

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Seems legit. Agreed.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

I'm just wondering how people scale to the speed of their explosion tbh

In this case? Beerus outright reacted to it after it blew up, that's where the scaling comes from

 

[StekFence]

I think I disagree then, the multiplier page states

“However, a good statement alone is not enough to get a high multiplier accepted. The amount of extra evidence one has to provide to get larger multipliers accepted is proportional to the size of the multiplier. For lower multipliers, like things much less than times 100, evidence can take the form of a clear increase in combat strength against priorly equal or superior opponents. For higher multipliers, like times 100 and above, the importance of stronger evidence, such as feats displaying power of a similar magnitude as the value the multiplier points to or the multipliers importance to the plot of the story, and a higher amount of evidence becomes increasingly necessary.

If multiple multipliers are to be stacked, that are used upon each other, the evidence for the end result is equal to the total multiplier applied to the best feat. That means that if, for example, a character has a times 10 multiplier and later on gets another times 50 multiplier, than the evidence necessary to use both multipliers to get a statistic, is like that of a times 500 multiplier, as the best feat would be increased by a factor of 500 in that case.”

Based on that, I don’t think this works.

Does anybody have a response for this? Unless I’m missing something here?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Does anybody have a response for this? Unless I’m missing something here?

Dont exactly think it relates here, as its just a speed increase, with all the multipliers in the old speed notes, prolly should do this in another thread

 

[StekFence]

I mean, I think it relates. If I’m right, then multipliers shouldn’t used like this, which would be grounds to disagree with the crt, as it relies on using multipliers on a speed feat.

 

[Brogeefrong]

I mean, I think it relates. If I’m right, then multipliers shouldn’t used like this, which would be grounds to disagree with the crt, as it relies on using multipliers on a speed feat.

Well its mostly updating the old speed blog, with the accepted mutipliers, if you wanna discuss the mutipliers not being used, it should be in another thread

 

[StekFence]

Alr fair, I’ll make a new thread

 

[TiltedFN]

bump

 

[Jason_Courne]

Why not use Fused Zamasu / Vegito as reference for the speed chain? We scale the main cast above Zamasu AP wise, so why not speed wise?

 

[Omegabronic]

Why not use Fused Zamasu / Vegito as reference for the speed chain? We scale the main cast above Zamasu AP wise, so why not speed wise?

This thread is not changing the speed chain, it is only changin the initial value

 

[Brogeefrong]

ssjg multiplier i think is accepeted now so u gotta make ssjg another 50x, cause it gonna be ssj1 goku speed x ssj1 vegito speed!

 

[Omegabronic]

ssjg multiplier i think is accepeted now so u gotta make ssjg another 50x, cause it gonna be ssj1 goku speed x ssj1 vegito speed!

Wasn't it 500 x 500? Also, could you link the thread? I kind of got out of it, but nonetheless, the new accepted multipliers may need a thread of their own to see if the stack of them alongside the current speed chain will be accepted, i will do the thread for that after this is concluded tho

 

[AwkguyDB]

ssjg multiplier i think is accepeted now so u gotta make ssjg another 50x, cause it gonna be ssj1 goku speed x ssj1 vegito speed!

500 x 500 would be what is accepted so it would be SSJ3 Vegito x SSJ3 Goku

 

[Omegabronic]

500 x 500 would be what is accepted so it would be SSJ3 Vegito x SSJ3 Goku

Was it accepted?

 

[AwkguyDB]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/ssjg-and-uio-multiplier.154116/page-4#post-5856555 looks like it we got Lord Griff and DDM to agree

 

[Brogeefrong]

Wasn't it 500 x 500? Also, could you link the thread? I kind of got out of it, but nonetheless, the new accepted multipliers may need a thread of their own to see if the stack of them alongside the current speed chain will be accepted, i will do the thread for that after this is concluded tho

i rememeber someone i think u saying the 10x from ssj2 and ssj3 wouldnt count so it would only be a 50x

 

[Brogeefrong]

SSJ Goku - 59.125 septilion c

SSJ2, SSJ3, and SSJG Goku - At least 59.125 septilion c, likely far higher

Pre-Goku Black Saga SSJB Goku - At least 295.625 septilion c, likely far higher

Also! 59 Septillion x 50 is not 295 septillion! That is suppose to be 2.956 Octillion (prolly), good luck with more work!

 

[Omegabronic]

Also! 59 Septillion x 50 is not 295 septillion! That is suppose to be 2.956 Octillion (prolly), good luck with more work!

huh? oh well, i will run the math again just to be sure

 

[Brogeefrong]

and uh 118 sextillion x 50 isnt 59 sep, so uhhhhhhhhhh

 

[K_o_Karlyn]

I mf hard agree

 

[Brogeefrong]

Since math is a little off ssj would be 5.9 septillion and 50x that is 295 septillion, so it ends up being correct with a error at ssj

 

[Brogeefrong]

Spoiler: a little diversion for memes, making fun of some situation i have faced here and how ironic this thread being made by me of all people is lol

Omega is doing an Speed upgrade for db, all of you that were mean and that called a downplayer and some other "not worth speaking" things can now no longer call me that, oh the nightmare, your name calling is invalid for now, for i am delivering the pie that you will all like, and now you can't just go against it, since you know you like it, mwahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

ahem, please ignore that upper part, i just couldn't hold myself back, let us proceed to the good stuff shall we?

DBS Battle of Gods speed recalc

vsbattles.fandom.com

no need to say more, now the BoGs feat is accepted as 118.25 sextillion times ftl, Following the the conservative multiplier blog these are the changes to the currently "likely" ratings:

Spoiler: scaling chain multiplier shenanigans

Suppressed Beerus/Base DBS Goku Post BoG - 118.25 sextillion c

SSJ Goku - 591.25 septilion c

SSJ2, SSJ3, and SSJG Goku - At least 2.95625 Octilion c, likely far higher

Pre-Goku Black Saga SSJB Goku - At least 2.95625 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB KKx10 (U6 Saga) Goku - At least 29.5625 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku from Hit rematch and onwards - At least 29.5625 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB KKx20 Goku (beginning of ToP) - At least 591.25 Octilion c, likely far higher

UIO1 and UIO2 Goku - At least 591.25 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku (Post UIO2) - At least 11.825 Nonilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku KKx20 (Post UIO2) - At least 236.5 Nonilion c, likely far higher

Base Gogeta - At least 29.5625 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJ Gogeta - At least 1.478125 Decilion c , likely far higher

SSJB Gogeta - At least 73.90625 Decilion c, likely far higher

SSJ (Full Power) Broly - At least 73.90625 Decilion c, likely far higher

UIO3 Goku - At least 73.90625 Decilion c, likely far higher

MUI Goku - At least 73.90625 Decilion c, likely far higher

this will luckily be a quick change

multiplier shenanigans happen again unless grade 4 ssj is also 500x like grade 3

 

[K_o_Karlyn]

sextillion*

118 sextillion x 50 is 5.9 septillion. Where u getting sextillion from? Lol

 

[Brogeefrong]

let me give it a shot
Base post bog: 118.25 Sextillion
SSJ1: 5.9125 Septillion
SSJ2/3: At least >5.9125 Septillion, Likely At least >59.125 Septillion (If the 10x boost from ssj grade 3 carries over for speed for ssj2 and 3)
SSJG: At least >296.25 Septillion (Base Vegito>=ssj3 level which would at least mean he's as fast as ssj Goku x SSJ1 Speed, 50x50=2500x Base), Likely At least >29.5625 Octillion(Base Vegito>=ssj3 Goku which would mean he's at least 500x above base x ssj2, 500x500=250,000x Base)
Pre Goku Black SSJB: At least >14.8125 Octillion, Likely At least >1.478125 Nonillion
SSJB Kaioken 10x: At least >148.125 Octillion, Likely At least >14.78125 Nonillion
Hit rematch SSJB: At least >148.125 Octillion, Likely At least > 14.78125 Nonillion
SSJB KK20x Beginning of TOP: >2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least > 296.25 Nonillion
Omen 1 and 2: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJB Post Omen 2: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJB Kaioken 20x Post Omen Blue: At least >>>59.25 Nonillion Likely Aleast >>>5.925 Decillion
Base Gogeta:: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJ Gogeta: At Least >>> 148.125 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 14.8125 Decillion
SSJB Gogeta: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
SSJ (Full Power) Broly: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
Omen 3 Goku: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
MUI Goku: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion

 

[Brogeefrong]

Likely is if SSJ Grade 3's 10x counts for speed with ssj2 and 3

 

[K_o_Karlyn]

let me give it a shot
Base post bog: 118.25 Sextillion
SSJ1: 5.9125 Septillion
SSJ2/3: At least >5.9125 Septillion, Likely At least >59.125 Septillion (If the 10x boost from ssj grade 3 carries over for speed for ssj2 and 3)
SSJG: At least >296.25 Septillion (Base Vegito>=ssj3 level which would at least mean he's as fast as ssj Goku x SSJ1 Speed, 50x50=2500x Base), Likely At least >29.5625 Octillion(Base Vegito>=ssj3 Goku which would mean he's at least 500x above base x ssj2, 500x500=250,000x Base)
Pre Goku Black SSJB: At least >14.8125 Octillion, Likely At least >1.478125 Nonillion
SSJB Kaioken 10x: At least >148.125 Octillion, Likely At least >14.78125 Nonillion
Hit rematch SSJB: At least >148.125 Octillion, Likely At least > 14.78125 Nonillion
SSJB KK20x Beginning of TOP: >2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least > 296.25 Nonillion
Omen 1 and 2: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJB Post Omen 2: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJB Kaioken 20x Post Omen Blue: At least >>>59.25 Nonillion Likely Aleast >>>5.925 Decillion
Base Gogeta:: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJ Gogeta: At Least >>> 148.125 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 14.8125 Decillion
SSJB Gogeta: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
SSJ (Full Power) Broly: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
Omen 3 Goku: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
MUI Goku: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion

Looks good too me

 

[Omegabronic]

let me give it a shot
Base post bog: 118.25 Sextillion
SSJ1: 5.9125 Septillion
SSJ2/3: At least >5.9125 Septillion, Likely At least >59.125 Septillion (If the 10x boost from ssj grade 3 carries over for speed for ssj2 and 3)
SSJG: At least >296.25 Septillion (Base Vegito>=ssj3 level which would at least mean he's as fast as ssj Goku x SSJ1 Speed, 50x50=2500x Base), Likely At least >29.5625 Octillion(Base Vegito>=ssj3 Goku which would mean he's at least 500x above base x ssj2, 500x500=250,000x Base)
Pre Goku Black SSJB: At least >14.8125 Octillion, Likely At least >1.478125 Nonillion
SSJB Kaioken 10x: At least >148.125 Octillion, Likely At least >14.78125 Nonillion
Hit rematch SSJB: At least >148.125 Octillion, Likely At least > 14.78125 Nonillion
SSJB KK20x Beginning of TOP: >2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least > 296.25 Nonillion
Omen 1 and 2: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJB Post Omen 2: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJB Kaioken 20x Post Omen Blue: At least >>>59.25 Nonillion Likely Aleast >>>5.925 Decillion
Base Gogeta:: At Least >>>2.9625 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 296.25 Nonillion
SSJ Gogeta: At Least >>> 148.125 Nonillion, Likely At least >>> 14.8125 Decillion
SSJB Gogeta: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
SSJ (Full Power) Broly: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
Omen 3 Goku: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion
MUI Goku: At Least >>> 370.3125 Decillion, Likely At Least >>> 37.03125 Undecillion

we need to wait for us to see if the results of said new multipliers will be accepted, again, let us try the current accepted stuff first in the op ok?