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DBS upgrade, the lengendary super speed sandwich

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Brogeefrong said:
Atm the Ssjg mutiplier is being discussed, which is aleast ssj3 goku × ssj Vegito, so ur gonna need to increase ssjg by another 50x
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We will need a thread to see if the multiplier scaling that comes with it will be accepted also, let us not put the horses behind the car ok?
 
omegabronic said:
SSJB Goku from Hit rematch and onwards - At least 29.562 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB KKx20 Goku (beginning of ToP) - At least 59.124 Octilion c, likely far higher
SSJB Goku (Post UIO2) - At least 59.124 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku KKx20 (Post UIO2) - At least 118.248 Octilion c, likely far higher
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Wait a minute, why is there a scaling between the flash of the explosion, which traveled across the universe, and the explosion itself, which didn't? We scale Goku and Beerus to the explosion in the calculation, not to the flash.
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
Wait a minute, why is there a scaling between the flash of the explosion, which traveled across the universe, and the explosion itself, which didn't? We scale Goku and Beerus to the explosion in the calculation, not to the flash.
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What are you talking about?
 
omegabronic said:
What are you talking about?
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The feat with Goku and Beerus.
You give them mftl+ speed because there's a possible scaling between them and the explosion that can cross the universe very quickly, but in the feat it's not the explosion that accomplishes that feat, but the light of the explosion.
 
TiltedFN said:
this has already been accepted and explained here,
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It is not explained why there is a scaling between the speed of the flash and that of the explosion here, the speed of the explosion is not necessarily the same as that of the flash, it may take longer.

TiltedFN said:
please stop derailing.
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Sorry you're right, so I should make a thread on Questions and Answers for this case
 
Eseseso said:
I'm just wondering how people scale to the speed of their explosion tbh
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In the blog, its explained how they scale to the speed of it, db characters can scale to the speed of their ki, if their ki is 39 sextillion c, they also scale to it, with various other examples of db characters outpacing ki explosions and ki blast themselves. This has been established for a while now. Why are we questioning things that have already been established in the wiki for years now?
 
"If his Chi is 196 quadrillion c at moment X, it would also be that fast in any other given moment, regardless of the scale. Goku can dodge Chi Blasts from other people who are stronger than God Goku, he scales to it regardless. Goku's Chi is 196 Qd c, Beerus can react and keep up with said Chi, Goku can react to Beerus's Chi (who was keeping himself close to Goku's level), SSJ Goku, and those who scale to him can react to said Chi. They scale, and this logic is merely a supportive argument".
 
Agree but:
omegabronic said:
Pre-Goku Black Saga SSJB Goku - At least 295.625 septilion c, likely far higher

SSJB KKx10 (U6 Saga) Goku - At least 29.562 Octilion c, likely far higher
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SSBKK10 is only a 10 times boost, while you multiplied it by 100. It'd actually be 2.9562 Octilion c
omegabronic said:
SSJB Goku (Post UIO2) - At least 59.124 Octilion c, likely far higher

SSJB Goku KKx20 (Post UIO2) - At least 118.248 Octilion c, likely far higher
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SSBKK20 is a 20 times multiplier from SSB, while you only multiplied by 2. It'd actually be 1.18248 Nonilion c
 
TiltedFN said:
In the blog, its explained how they scale to the speed of it, db characters can scale to the speed of their ki, if their ki is 39 sextillion c, they also scale to it, with various other examples of db characters outpacing ki explosions and ki blast themselves. This has been established for a while now. Why are we questioning things that have already been established in the wiki for years now?
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Things can be established on the wiki for years and be overturned at any moment.
 
TiltedFN said:
"If his Chi is 196 quadrillion c at moment X, it would also be that fast in any other given moment, regardless of the scale. Goku can dodge Chi Blasts from other people who are stronger than God Goku, he scales to it regardless. Goku's Chi is 196 Qd c, Beerus can react and keep up with said Chi, Goku can react to Beerus's Chi (who was keeping himself close to Goku's level), SSJ Goku, and those who scale to him can react to said Chi. They scale, and this logic is merely a supportive argument".
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Tbh, this doesn't particularly look like a solid justification

But I'll hold my thoughts until Damage's thread
 
Testarossa002 said:
Tbh, this doesn't particularly look like a solid justification

But I'll hold my thoughts until Damage's thread
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This will be my last comment on the matter, but that wasn't the entire justification, we have seen DB characters react to explosions specifically caused by their ki, and outpace said explosions and other ki blast that scale to the speed of the BOG explosions, that is why they scale, i recommend taking a look at the BOG speed feat blog. Okay, I'm done with the derailing.
 
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