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You still didn't prove anything or how many layer it has you just keep continuing saying it's layeredYes the powernull is layered and even worked on the demon king himself
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You still didn't prove anything or how many layer it has you just keep continuing saying it's layeredYes the powernull is layered and even worked on the demon king himself
I mean magical attack didn't work against the Ruler so they only fought him with physical attacksIn case of Zeldris, I couldn't find any. It makes sense tho, Magic also didn't work on the Ruler when they fought the DK. The attacked him with only physical attacks
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I mean Magic attacks*
Just look it this way:You still didn't prove anything or how many layer it has you just keep continuing saying it's layered
Yes I agree Zeldris has the hax to win thiswait can we agree that disregarding the power null business, Zeldris still has better win cons?
Nah, I don’t see his wins cons being better than future sight+EEwait can we agree that disregarding the power null business, Zeldris still has better win cons?
God is on at the start of battle according to SBABut the OP never said Zeldris god is active. It’s just him in his mark. Why can’t Julius just react faster than Zeldris can think of turning on god. Julius will definitely know how much of a threat he is with future sight and immediately resort to EE. @Nelliels
Link it hereAlso I got the next match ready. Im hoping its as heated as this.
Omnious nebula, soul steal ominous bind, spacial manipulation and etcNah, I don’t see his wins cons being better than future sight+EE
But the OP never said Zeldris god is active. It’s just him in his mark. Why can’t Julius just react faster than Zeldris can think of turning on god. Julius will definitely know how much of a threat he is with future sight and immediately resort to EE. @Nelliels
As Ive shown before, the ability seems to be active as long as he's conscious, also God isn like some key he needs to be in, another thing is that in his fight with Ludoshel and gang its clear it active since he's in a fight, this the same scenario, idk why he'd need to turn it on. Ominous Nebula sure but God is just on during fights afaikBut the OP never said Zeldris god is active. It’s just him in his mark. Why can’t Julius just react faster than Zeldris can think of turning on god. Julius will definitely know how much of a threat he is with future sight and immediately resort to EE. @Nelliels
Yes and Julius has no wincons and Zeldris just stompswait can we agree that disregarding the power null business, Zeldris still has better win cons?
There is no way y’all argued for ten pages straight just to conclude stomp . Cmon bro, put up a fight, don’t let your time go to waste.Then what are julius' wincons then? except for dodging everything(which isn't a wincon) and every abilities he has gets nulled it's stomp if that's the case
I agree their is also piety which I forgot to mentionAs Ive shown before, the ability seems to be active as long as he's conscious, also God isn like some key he needs to be in, another thing is that in his fight with Ludoshel and gang its clear it active since he's in a fight, this the same scenario, idk why he'd need to turn it on. Ominous Nebula sure but God is just on during fights afaik
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Longevity (Elite Demons live for 1,000 years), Self-Sustenance (Type 2), Magic, Extrasensory Perception, Body Control, Expert Swordsmanship, High ranking Demon Physiology, Curse Negation (Galand implied he could reverse the petrification effects of his own Commandment), Telepathy, Air Manipulation and Forcefield Creation with Ominous Nebula (Rotates his darkness at high speed, creating a vortex that draws others in), Paralysis Inducement with Ominous Bind, Mind Manipulation (Those who flee from Zeldris become his servants), Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with souls), Spatial Manipulation (Broke Dubs' wall-less space), Rage Power (Cut down Mael in a fit of rage), Curse Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Aura, Fear Manipulation (The Commandments' auras terrified Hendrickson. His aura terrified the souls within Excalibur), Power Absorption (Can absorb others' commandments, which are demonic curses), Sealing, Power Nullification (Can seal the magic of others. Superior to 2 Commandments Estarossa), Resistance to Acid Manipulation (Hendrickson stated acid doesn't work on the demon clan), Existence Erasure (High level Demons can withstand the Goddess' Ark), Gravity Manipulation, Corrosion Inducement, Mind Manipulation (Demon World is a polluted and corrupted land covered by miasma, all other clan's minds and bodies are prone to rot and decay), Deconstruction (Superior to 2 Commandments Estarossa), Heat Manipulation (Withstood the heat of Mael's attacks)
Exactly it was an awesome debate thoughYes and Julius has no wincons and Zeldris just stomps
Several EE attacks. He basically one shots if not for godThen what are julius' wincons then? except for dodging everything(which isn't a wincon) and every abilities he has gets nulled it's stomp if that's the case
Even if grace ended Julius has no wincon which would make it a stomp and make all the arguments that has made into shitHow many hours for grace?
Still head canon it's based on equal power you got debunked like 10 times I need to remove magic resistance from Julius profileI added more stuff.
Devil Union Asta » Star Magic Yuno and Mana Zone Nacht/Yami's resistance > Devil Arm Asta » 80% Dante's resistance > Yami's Black Moon » 50% Dante's resistance > 12 Asta's Black Divider Asta » Ancien Demon's resistance > Scale Magic » Zagred's resistance > Black Asta » Spirit Dive Yuno's resistance > overflowing Anti-Magic > Anti-Magic Swords » Mars' Resistance > Klaus's Binding Magic
I put Nell' input on the Ancient demon. Julius would scale there
Which gets nulled by GODHis win cons are time ee, time bubbles, and time accel.
idk what the little double arrows mean but if im counting correct that's 5I added more stuff.
Devil Union Asta » Star Magic Yuno and Mana Zone Nacht/Yami's resistance > Devil Arm Asta » 80% Dante's resistance > Yami's Black Moon » 50% Dante's resistance > 12 Asta's Black Divider Asta » Ancien Demon's resistance > Scale Magic » Zagred's resistance > Black Asta » Spirit Dive Yuno's resistance > overflowing Anti-Magic > Anti-Magic Swords » Mars' Resistance > Klaus's Binding Magic
I put Nell' input on the Ancient demon. Julius would scale there
This just seems like what we were doing before.I added more stuff.
Devil Union Asta » Star Magic Yuno and Mana Zone Nacht/Yami's resistance > Devil Arm Asta » 80% Dante's resistance > Yami's Black Moon » 50% Dante's resistance > 12 Asta's Black Divider Asta » Ancien Demon's resistance > Scale Magic » Zagred's resistance > Black Asta » Spirit Dive Yuno's resistance > overflowing Anti-Magic > Anti-Magic Swords » Mars' Resistance > Klaus's Binding Magic
Just 5 more hours as soon as it's 8 pm est you can add this and close the thread finallyEven if grace ended Julius has no wincon which would make it a stomp and make all the arguments that has made into shit
You didn't debunk any shit you just say head canon in every layered shit they droppedStill head canon it's based on equal power you got debunked like 10 times I need to remove magic resistance from Julius profile
Double standards and head canonI added more stuff.
Devil Union Asta » Star Magic Yuno and Mana Zone Nacht/Yami's resistance > Devil Arm Asta » 80% Dante's resistance > Yami's Black Moon » 50% Dante's resistance > 12 Asta's Black Divider Asta » Ancien Demon's resistance > Scale Magic » Yami's Mana Skin resistance > Black Asta » Spirit Dive Yuno's resistance > overflowing Anti-Magic > Anti-Magic Swords » Mars' Resistance > Klaus's Binding Magic
I put Nell' input on the Ancient demon. Julius would scale there
You can't add a stomp matchJust 5 more hours as soon as it's 8 pm est you can add this and close the thread finally
It's still fun to debate aboutNah wait aint no way we been arguing about layers just for this to end as a stomp. My next match boutta be stomp then too LOL
It's not stompYou can't add a stomp match
And then wait for the layered arguments or just straight up don't add it in the profile since on the past few pages no one literally argues for julius' wincons and when the layered shit was about to get argued it got disregardedNah wait aint no way we been arguing about layers just for this to end as a stomp. My next match boutta be stomp then too LOL
Yesidk what the little double arrows mean but if im counting correct that's 5
if the layering goes in favor of Julius to neg godOmnious nebula, soul steal ominous bind, spacial manipulation and etc
Tell me what's Julius wincon then? if Zeldris win it's not a stomp? but if he doesn't it's a stomp?It's not stomp
It will ON will be active and Julius is screwed stop NLF precog party was still able to use attacks rightif the layering goes in favor of Julius to neg god
ON will not prevent Julius from using his time based attackshe can even erase ON with time reversal,SBA prevents soul steal, Julius easily evades ominous bind with future sight+ teleportation.
these are not win cons they are just simply things that can kill Julius, but won’t
So the decider of this argument will be the layered stuff, agreed? @Nelliels @speedster352