Commandment of Piety vs Prime of the Adept

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Hm, do his constructs also pertify or only the meteors as stated in his profile?

^^

 

[Anonykay]

Hm, do his constructs also pertify or only the meteors as stated in his profile?

Only the meteors petrify

 

[Jackpact]

I started playing genshin today, when will I get up to Zhongli being in the story? @Shey

Assuming you haven't already been there, act 2 and 3 of Liyue chapter, after that he have 2 story quest one is unlockable immediately the other require you to complete act 4 of Liyue chapter.

 

[Shey]

I started playing genshin today, when will I get up to Zhongli being in the story? @Shey

AR 30-45
You will see Guyun Stone Forest after visiting Liyue over at the Extreme South East on sea

 

[Shey]

Hm, do his constructs also pertify or only the meteors as stated in his profile?

Not the smaller ones we know of, but if they do work similar to his Geo Meteor they should but not much Alludes they can petrify so just his meteor we're sure of, but Morax can spam anyways

 

[Shey]

imma be honest the things you posted I couldn't understand what u meant but I guess this what u mean

The photos and gifs I linked show an island he created out of his massive Geo spears but their current sizes are greatly diminished

 

[VsReferee]

Not the smaller ones we know of, but if they do work similar to his Geo Meteor they should but not much Alludes they can petrify so just his meteor we're sure of, but Morax can spam anyways

W ll, if he is a kind of fighter who constantly spams meteors on large scale and Zeldris doesn't come close to him it can be a trouble. But what stopt zeldris from pulling him with ON?

 

[Shey]

W ll, if he is a kind of fighter who constantly spams meteors on large scale and Zeldris doesn't come close to him it can be a trouble. But what stopt zeldris from pulling him with ON?

Yes he is the kind of fighter to spam,
Not sure what he can do about ON my knowledge only goes so far

 

[Arkenis]

Yes he is the kind of fighter to spam,
Not sure what he can do about ON my knowledge only goes so far

 

[Arkenis]

Its just gonna suck Zhongli in if he's in range.

 

[Jibz]

It's elemental energy with the nature of earth basically Rock energy, it's never described as magic.

It should deffo be considered magic with verse equalization, he literally channels the power of "rock", akin to how Gilthunder would channel "lightning" into his blade.

 

[Arkenis]

It should deffo be considered magic with verse equalization, he literally channels the power of "rock", akin to how Gilthunder would channel "lightning" into his blade.

no verse equalization

 

[speedster352]

no verse equalization

Why not?

 

[Jibz]

no verse equalization

ur joking right?

Also isn't ON just his sword imbued with darkness slashing at high speeds, its literally called a "full react" if Zhongli lunges at him he can literally just parry the spear

 

[Jibz]

Asked on the discord, and peeps be telling me you can't choose not to do verse equalization, so im not sure that's even allowed.

 

[Arkenis]

ur joking right?

Also isn't ON just his sword imbued with darkness slashing at high speeds, its literally called a "full react" if Zhongli lunges at him he can literally just parry the spear

Like he parried Escanor? And no I'm not joking. both verses already use magic, geo energy is distinctly different and isn't considered magic but just energy from the earth so why equalize it to also be magic when its not even magic in its own verse.

 

[Arkenis]

Asked on the discord, and peeps be telling me you can't choose not to do verse equalization, so im not sure that's even allowed.

Im not choosing. geo energy is just different from magic from what I can gather

 

[Jibz]

Im not choosing. geo energy is just different from magic from what I can gather

Elemental magic is in both NNT and Genshin Impact? He channels the power of "geo" into his attacks. Now replace geo with lets say lightning. "He channels the power of lightning into his attacks" that sounds like a decently apt description of Gilthunders MAGIC.

Now tell me how the two powersets are so irrevocably different that they can't be equalized?

 

[VsReferee]

Elemental magic is in both NNT and Genshin Impact? He channels the power of "geo" into his attacks. Now replace geo with lets say lightning. "He channels the power of lightning into his attacks" that sounds like a decently apt description of Gilthunders MAGIC.

Now tell me how the two powersets are so irrevocably different that they can't be equalized?

Ooh, that is what geo energy is

 

[Jibz]

Like he parried Escanor?

He literally does? In chapter 288 both Ludo and Escanor come for Zeldris and they are both flung back. His sword is shown flinging away projectiles thrown at him. Why can't he parry the spear?

 

[VsReferee]

He literally does? In chapter 288 both Ludo and Escanor come for Zeldris and they are both flung back. His sword is shown flinging away projectiles thrown at him. Why can't he parry the spear?

Someone said that the meteor would petrify zeldris. What do you think will happen if it hits omn

Edit

Nvm, it wouldn't work because of god

 

[Shey]

He literally does? In chapter 288 both Ludo and Escanor come for Zeldris and they are both flung back. His sword is shown flinging away projectiles thrown at him. Why can't he parry the spear?

Tbf his spears are immensely larger than anything he's ever parried

 

[Jibz]

Someone said that the meteor would petrify zeldris. What do you think will happen if it uit omn

The meteor needs to hit for petrification to happen, which i genuinely dont see happening when Zeldris could just slice it to pieces (and resist its effects since the magic systems should obviously be equalized) which is just but a few avenues Zeldris could take.

 

[Jibz]

Tbf his spears are immensely larger than anything he's ever parried

He has a lifting strength of Class G, same as Zhongli so i can't see why he couldn't.

 

[Shey]

He has a lifting strength of Class G, same as Zhongli so i can't see why he couldn't.

Well were they scale to in it could make a difference
I don't know the exact values of either

 

[Jibz]

Well were they scale to in it could make a difference
I don't know the exact values of either

untill someone can clarify, im going presumption he can infact parry it.

 

[Arkenis]

The meteor needs to hit for petrification to happen, which i genuinely dont see happening when Zeldris could just slice it to pieces (and resist its effects since the magic systems should obviously be equalized) which is just but a few avenues Zeldris could take.

it will petrify the darkness itself.

 

[Arkenis]

(and resist its effects since the magic systems should obviously be equalized)

Someone mentioned before geo energy isn't magic so not sure why it would be equalized when its treated differently in genshin.

 

[speedster352]

it will petrify the darkness itself.

Darkness can't be petrified

 

[Jibz]

Someone mentioned before geo energy isn't magic so not sure why it would be equalized when its treated differently in genshin.

So your defence of the unequalized system is "someone said it isn't magic". Im not attacking an argument that isn't even yours. Who said this, and can in turn clarify as to why its so different it cant be equalized.

 

[Arkenis]

Darkness can't be petrified

Has no resistance on demon page or zeldris page.

 

[Arkenis]

So your defence of the unequalized system is "someone said it isn't magic". Im not attacking an argument that isn't even yours. Who said this, and can in turn clarify as to why its so different it cant be equalized.

@Shey said it never described as magic and again its literally from the earth itself not a form of magic.

 

[speedster352]

Has no resistance on demon page or zeldris page.

But ON will not it will keep spinning and Zeldris can keep adding more darkness to it. Have you tried to freeze a fan or a helicopter rotor? It won't work.

 

[Arkenis]

But ON will not it will keep spinning and Zeldris can keep adding more darkness to it. Have you tried to freeze a fan or a helicopter rotor? It won't work.

You can freeze a fan or a helicopter if the freeze is strong enough. do you think in all of fiction no ones frozen something that moves fast? And this isn't freezing its petrification so he won't be able to spin it once its become petrified.

 

[Jibz]

it will petrify the darkness itself.

Has Zhongli's petrification ever been shown to do that? The ingame description is

dealing massive Geo DMG to opponents caught in its AoE and applying the Petrification status to them.

I dont recall it having some form of NPI.

 

[speedster352]

You can freeze a fan or a helicopter if the freeze is strong enough. do you think in all of fiction no ones frozen something that moves fast? And this isn't freezing its petrification so he won't be able to spin it once its become petrified.

ON is way too fast to be petrfied and Zeldris is not dumb he will counter this. Also ON has many layers of fast moving darkness so it should be fine.

 

[Arkenis]

I dont recall it having some form of NPI.

Darkness isn't np though, its stated to be physical on the demon page so idk why that matters.

ON is way too fast to be petrfied and Zeldris is not dumb he will counter this. Also ON has many layers of fast moving darkness so it should be fine.

How does it being too fast matter?

 

[VsReferee]

@Shey said it never described as magic and again its literally from the earth itself not a form of magic.

Let pick Diane from sds, what is the difference? The earth she manipulated is also from the earth itself?

 

[speedster352]

Darkness isn't np though, its stated to be physical on the demon page so idk why that matters.

How does it being too fast matter?

here It's too fast to be petrfied and it has multiple layers and of fast moving tendrils of darkness

 

[Arkenis]

Let pick Diane from sds, what is the difference? The earth she manipulated is also from the earth itself?

geo energy and earth, two different things.