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Commandment of Piety vs The Wizard King

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VsReferee said:
Forget the layers. I have trouble understanding the black clover demon having power null while not verbatim stated having such. They could still attack the demon with magic of equal power as that of a demon

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As I understand, Julius ability to negate "God" comes from him attacking that demon right?
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Yes cuz Julius verbatim states he has it and Damantio has power null which it negated
 
I’m guessing god isn’t passive
Future sight should allow Julius to react before he activates it and erase him.

valid?
 
Jibz said:
So: Ruler can powernull, Merlin who can resist Chandler's powernull THIS THEN SOMEHOW CONNECT TO THE CURRENT CHAIN OF Estarossa can powernull, a person (Tarmiel) who can resist a powernull, of a person (Meliodas or Commandment) who can powernull (VC or Commandment hax) another person (Monspeet) who in turn resists a powernull (Ark)
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So, by putting all powernulls in red, there's 3 layers so far
 
Arnoldstone18 said:
I’m guessing god isn’t passive
Future sight should allow Julius to react before he activates it and erase him.

valid?
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im not 100% sure if its passive, but he usually has it on at all times in the manga not that it matters because i have a feeling Julius has more layers into power null resis then Zeldris does for power null.
 
Jibz said:
im not 100% sure if its passive, but he usually has it on at all times in the manga not that it matters because i have a feeling Julius has more layers into power null resis then Zeldris does for power null.
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It’s probably not passive, and with the amount of power nulls Julius outlayers😂😂

just wait for @Epsilon_R
 
VsReferee said:
Uhm, but how can you overpower a hax that makes you immune to magic with an magic attack?
it is like, Zeldris does a magic attack against Meliodas but it gets full countered. Since it is a magic attack, it still wouldn't work on Zeldris.

There is no clear statement that this demon is immune to magic attacks like Zeldris
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Yea idk it seems like its just the demon is really power so their attacks seem to have no effect.
 
completely dropped my mind, but when Zeldris fell unconscious he had to reapply Ruler. However he does have it on at practically all times outside of that (Correct if wrong guys)
 
actually im leaning towards Julius now. Dependent on wether or not Zeldris starts with Ruler or not. Can a NNT supporter help in this regard. (if he doesn't just say so, and we can all be done here)
 
Tbh let's just wait for the layered shit to be dropped then we comment again so it wouldn't be unusually long
 
Jibz said:
Okay so if im understanding this correctly.

Ark powernulls high ranking demons
Strong demons resist this
Meliodas is implied to be able to Powenull monspeet, who presumably resists ark (Powernull)
Commandments powernull > Meliodas's powernull
With Archangles resisting Commandments powernull? (or is it Meliodas's?)
Estarossa can powernull Archangels

So so far : Estarossa can powernull, a person (Tarmiel) who can resist a powernull, of a person (Meliodas or Commandment) who can powernull (VC or Commandment hax) another person (Monspeet) who in turn resists a powernull (Ark)

Chandler is then able to powernull Merlin
Merlin is inturn able to resist this powernull
With the Ruler being above this resistance?

So: Ruler can powernull, Merlin who can resist Chandler's powernull THIS THEN SOMEHOW CONNECT TO THE CURRENT CHAIN OF Estarossa can powernull, a person (Tarmiel) who can resist a powernull, of a person (Meliodas or Commandment) who can powernull (VC or Commandment hax) another person (Monspeet) who in turn resists a powernull (Ark)

Which leads me to two questions.

Who is Tarmiel resisting the powernull of, Meliodas or the Commandment's?
How does the Ruler > Merlin > Chandler chain connect to the rest of the supposed layers?
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Yes that's the layers I will try but I need some help since theirs alot. Actually I can explain instead. Ark has been accepted to be powernull same for high ranking demon darkness. Strong demons resist this ok. Then Meliodas is implied to be able to use VC on monspeet hellflame phoenix. And Meliodas use VC on DK darkness attack. The commandments powernull are way above this and 4 archangels and merlin resist this. Then Chandler absolute cancels Merlin's perfect cube. And Merlin's magic seal byassed her own resistance. Then god is way above all this.
 
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It doesn't even seem like he needs to activate it either, it seems him being conscious is what makes them active.
 
Jibz said:
actually im leaning towards Julius now. Dependent on wether or not Zeldris starts with Ruler or not. Can a NNT supporter help in this regard. (if he doesn't just say so, and we can all be done here)
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He doesn't have a Ruler for so far I recall. He has "God". Imo Julius can't see if he activates "God" or not. There is no sign of it unless you attack
 
Jibz said:
speed but he appears to have gone
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Yes that's the layers I will try but I need some help since theirs alot. Actually I can explain instead. Ark has been accepted to be powernull same for high ranking demon darkness. Strong demons resist this ok. Then Meliodas is implied to be able to use VC on monspeet hellflame phoenix. And Meliodas use VC on DK darkness attack. The commandments powernull are way above this and 4 archangels and merlin resist this. Then Chandler absolute cancels Merlin's perfect cube. And Merlin's magic seal byassed her own resistance. Then god is way above all this.
 
VsReferee said:
He doesn't have a Ruler for so far I recall. He has "God". Imo Julius can't see if he activates "God" or not. There is no sign of it unless you attack
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Isn't Ruler and God the same thing? Ruler is the ability that makes him impervious to damage. Is God another ability he has???
 
Here's BC's layers:

Devil Union Asta » Star Magic Yuno and Mana Zone Nacht/Yami's resistance > Devil Arm Asta » 80% Dante's resistance > Yami's Black Moon » 50% Dante's resistance > 12 Asta's Black Divider Asta > Black Divider » Zagred's resistance > Black Asta » Spirit Dive Yuno's resistance > overflowing Anti-Magic > Anti-Magic Swords » Mars' Resistance > Klaus's Binding Magic

Resistances are in red

"»" are layers. 6 so far

Julius' Mana Zone resistance scales to Yami and Nacht's

I am still working on putting other chains such as Curse Magic » Valkyrie Dress's Resistance > Mana Skin's resistance > Elves' powernull to the main chain
 
Epsilon_R said:
Here's BC's layers:

Devil Union Asta » Star Magic Yuno and Mana Zone Nacht/Yami's resistance > Devil Arm Asta » 80% Dante's resistance > Yami's Black Moon » 50% Dante's resistance > 12 Asta's Black Divider Asta > Black Divider » Zagred's resistance > Black Asta » Spirit Dive Yuno's resistance > overflowing Anti-Magic > Anti-Magic Swords » Mars' Resistance > Klaus's Binding Magic

Resistances are in red

"»" are layers

Julius' Mana Zone resistance scales to Yami and Nacht's

I am still working on putting other chains such as Curse Magic » Valkyrie Dress's Resistance > Mana Skin's resistance > Elves' powernull to the main chain
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Head canon prove that Julius is stronger than both with the insane power creep BC has
 
Epsilon_R said:
Here's BC's layers:

Devil Union Asta » Star Magic Yuno and Mana Zone Nacht/Yami's resistance > Devil Arm Asta » 80% Dante's resistance > Yami's Black Moon » 50% Dante's resistance > 12 Asta's Black Divider Asta > Black Divider » Zagred's resistance > Black Asta » Spirit Dive Yuno's resistance > overflowing Anti-Magic > Anti-Magic Swords » Mars' Resistance > Klaus's Binding Magic

Resistances are in red

"»" are layers. 6 so far

Julius' Mana Zone resistance scales to Yami and Nacht's

I am still working on putting other chains such as Curse Magic » Valkyrie Dress's Resistance > Mana Skin's resistance > Elves' powernull to the main chain
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Yami and nacht and pretty much everyone has way more ap than Julius. On vs wiki mind you. Stop wanking
Majinere566 said:
Why does Julius mana zone resistance scale to yami and nacht again?
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Those 2 are country level and Julius is island level + lol Head canon and NLF and appeal to ignorance
 
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