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Commandment of Piety vs The Wizard King

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Epsilon_R said:
Now we need to figure out actual layers, right?
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Demon king/zeldris "God" Skill >magic seal> absolute cancel >4 archangels and Merlin blessings >love and repose commandment >vanish counter> High ranking demons resistance to powernull >high demon darkness = high goddess ark powernull
 
speedster352 said:
Demon king/zeldris "God" Skill >magic seal> absolute cancel >4 archangels and Merlin blessings >love and repose commandment >vanish counter> High ranking demons resistance to powernull >high demon darkness = high goddess ark powernull
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This doesn't how layers work
 
Arnoldstone18 said:
I’m afraid so
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I will try but I need some help since theirs alot. Actually I can explain instead. Ark has been accepted to be powernull same for high ranking demon darkness. Strong demons resist this ok. Then Meliodas is implied to be able to use VC on monspeet hellflame phoenix. And Meliodas use VC on DK darkness attack. The commandments powernull are way above this and 4 archangels and merlin resist this. Then Chandler absolute cancels Merlin's perfect cube. And Merlin's magic seal byassed her own resistance. Then god is way above all this.
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Lugh_Tuathe_Dé said:
This doesn't how layers work
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speedster352 said:
Demon king/zeldris "God" Skill >magic seal> absolute cancel >4 archangels and Merlin blessings >love and repose commandment >vanish counter> High ranking demons resistance to powernull >high demon darkness = high goddess ark powernull
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
You resist to Time manipulation from X, but are affected by time manipulation from Y

This means that character Y has time manipulation that affects two layers

You simply being stronger than some character or hax does not give you a new layer. You need to overcome resistance
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Use this as a reference for the layers^
 
There is no point is debating if Julius can nullify Zeldris magic nullifying hax. Doesn't it nullify any magic in the first place? Zeldris has literally such a hax with a name. With Julius people are assuming he can
 
Epsilon_R said:
Speed, you only add a layer each time the hax overcomes the resistance.
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I did come on. Did you not read the whole thing their power nullification is layered and it was bypassed by god
speedster352 said:
Demon king/zeldris "God" Skill >magic seal> absolute cancel >4 archangels and Merlin blessings >love and repose commandment >vanish counter> High ranking demons resistance to powernull >high demon darkness = high goddess ark powernull
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speedster352 said:
here here here Divine Protection can protect them from the effect of commandments and dark curses. Here are some scans here layered powerull
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speedster352 said:
I did come on. Did you not read the whole thing their power nullification is layered and it was bypassed by god
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Some of the scans doesn't add layers also now that i think of it it's hard to argue Zeldris Resistance to Power Null since we don't know if just resisted it or just power null the power null using GOD
 
God this is all hurting my head. How many layers is Black Clover ACTUALLY so i can figure out my own layer system and see if it outscales or not.
 
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé said:
Some of the scans doesn't add layers also now that i think of it it's hard to argue Zeldris Resistance to Power Null since we don't know if just resisted it or just power null the power null using GOD
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I will try but I need some help since their a lot. Actually, I can explain instead. Ark has been accepted to be powernull same for high ranking demon darkness. Strong demons resist this ok. Then Meliodas is implied to be able to use VC on monspeet hellflame phoenix. And Meliodas use VC on DK darkness attack. The commandment's powernull is way above this and the 4 archangels and merlin resist this. Estarossa uses darkness to prevent tarmiel from using his grace that's powernull bypassing his resistance Then Chandler absolute cancels Merlin's perfect cube. And Merlin's magic seal bypassed her own resistance. Then god is way above all this. I provided the scans so stop nitpicking and come up with counters
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Jibz said:
God this is all hurting my head. How many layers is Black Clover ACTUALLY so i can figure out my own layer system and see if it outscales or not.
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Bro… get ready to see how insane it will be.
 
Can't believe this, I actually get ignored..
VsReferee said:
I said that because it is basically that. a hax that nullifies all magic makes you basically immune against magic right?
What is the difference otherwise?
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VsReferee said:
sigh..but what if resistance is also a hax..
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VsReferee said:
There is no point is debating if Julius can nullify Zeldris magic nullifying hax. Doesn't it nullify any magic in the first place? Zeldris has literally such a hax with a name. With Julius people are assuming he can
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Maybe people can't answer this?
 
VsReferee said:
Here he says that the only way to defeat such monster is to fight back with equal magic power. How is that like Zeldris immunity against magic?
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Noticed this too, it seems the way to over power power null is just to be more powerful than the person.
 
Nelliels said:
Noticed this too, it seems the way to over power power null is just to be more powerful than the person.
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Uhm, but how can you overpower a hax that makes you immune to magic with an magic attack?
it is like, Zeldris does a magic attack against Meliodas but it gets full countered. Since it is a magic attack, it still wouldn't work on Zeldris.

There is no clear statement that this demon is immune to magic attacks like Zeldris
 
I will try but I need some help since their a lot. Actually, I can explain instead. Ark has been accepted to be powernull same for high ranking demon darkness. Strong demons resist this ok. Then Meliodas is implied to be able to use VC on monspeet hellflame phoenix. And Meliodas use VC on DK darkness attack. The commandment's powernull is way above this and the 4 archangels and merlin resist this. Estarossa uses darkness to prevent tarmiel from using his grace that's powernull bypassing his resistance Then Chandler absolute cancels Merlin's perfect cube. And Merlin's magic seal bypassed her own resistance. Then god is way above all this. I provided the scans so stop nitpicking and come up with counters
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Okay so if im understanding this correctly.

Ark powernulls high ranking demons
Strong demons resist this
Meliodas is implied to be able to Powenull monspeet, who presumably resists ark (Powernull)
Commandments powernull > Meliodas's powernull
With Archangles resisting Commandments powernull? (or is it Meliodas's?)
Estarossa can powernull Archangels

So so far : Estarossa can powernull, a person (Tarmiel) who can resist a powernull, of a person (Meliodas or Commandment) who can powernull (VC or Commandment hax) another person (Monspeet) who in turn resists a powernull (Ark)

Chandler is then able to powernull Merlin
Merlin is inturn able to resist this powernull
With the Ruler being above this resistance?

So: Ruler can powernull, Merlin who can resist Chandler's powernull THIS THEN SOMEHOW CONNECT TO THE CURRENT CHAIN OF Estarossa can powernull, a person (Tarmiel) who can resist a powernull, of a person (Meliodas or Commandment) who can powernull (VC or Commandment hax) another person (Monspeet) who in turn resists a powernull (Ark)

Which leads me to two questions.

Who is Tarmiel resisting the powernull of, Meliodas or the Commandment's?
How does the Ruler > Merlin > Chandler chain connect to the rest of the supposed layers?
 
Forget the layers. I have trouble understanding the black clover demon having power null while not verbatim stated having such. They could still attack the demon with magic of equal power as that of a demon

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As I understand, Julius ability to negate "God" comes from him attacking that demon right?
 
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