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The 4-A feat is not real
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Rare robo WThe 4-A feat is not real
The term 洞天 means a place residing a deity, which is alternatively deemed as a land of beautiful scenery. The term itself is rather vast. Adepti creates abodes, yeah, but where's the logic that all of it traces back to subspace creation? Also, you linked the description of the Mist Veiled Mercury Elixir the official CN name is 雾海云间的汞丹 which doesn't contain the term "洞天".I will not press furthur with appearance anymore. But i gave scans of how adepti creates private spaces called abodes. "These abodes" is also referring to teapot realm created by subspace creation. Realm of clouds in cn text "云海洞天" with 洞天 meaning paradise here. I also gave a scan of how adepti creates cosmic paradise using subspace creation. This scan also use the same paradise chinese text "洞天". Isn't this enough to say Adepti create realms using subspace creation? OP's assumptions are enough to give solid 4-A but these are not enough? I am not following this logic at all.
Elemental Power is the fundamental building block of reality. I think you're misinterpreting that Elemental Power is only exclusive to the 7 known elements of Teyvat, but it isn't exactly the case. Tartaglia was shown to need to charge up his energy from both his hydro and electro vision to access the transformation, hence he is channelling energy to amplify his stats, doesn't matter if it is from the Abyss and taught by Skirk or not, as it long as he can channel it through his body. Signora's cryo delusion suppresses her powers, therefore she has to amplify her own energy to break out of the limitation; it's her true power, but doesn't exactly rebuke anything since she has to channel that energy to get it. Raiden is blatantly shown to be swift through using her electro powers, without it she can't be faster than our eyes, it's really quite obvious.And the biggest issue with even introducing the Elemental Energy UES thing in this thread is that the feats performed listed in the OP were not performed with this UES but by other meansI don't know how this may come off looking like but I have to say you picked the most dubious examples to represent UES
Foul Legacy isn't an Elemental Transformation, it's an Abyssal Transformation taught to him by Skirk when he was in the Abyss, it is NOT from Electro Energy, he has an actual transformation from his Electro Powers which is his Delusion state.
Her Crimson Witch state is her Base State, her normal look is caused by her Cryo Delusion suppressing her Crimson Witch Flames from Raging as her Blood became Liquid Fire.
We don't even get to see the Shogun's "Base Speed" cause when she's not zipping around with her Lightning speed she's literally walking
It's been said that those realm-creation feats took place by casting spells using a quill pen. Witches of Hexenzirkel are advanced and powerful mages, I don't think it be appealing to argue that they take thousands of years or millions of seconds to cast spells. It should give you a hint of a reasonable timeframe with this information given, by the least.Still haven't provided the proof of the timeframe... and the proof they can output the same amount of energy into their normal attacks as the realm's creation.
Lastly, the creation of the object(s) in question needs to happen within a reasonably short timeframe for the whole result to apply to the Attack Potency.
Information that the same pool of energy used is a Universal Energy System; magic and elemental energy are all part of the same pool of energy.
even though I explained it in my OP, you just have to read it, even M was surprised when it all became real. which means it happened quicklyCool. You provided the method of creating it, but not the timeframe. Being powerful doesn't mean you can't take time to create stuff.
More like their professionals so they're efficient in what they do.Cool. You provided the method of creating it, but not the timeframe. Being powerful doesn't mean you can't take time to create stuff.
Alice made it happen, so she is called the creator goddessI mean I don't know see how making a frog talk equates to being able to instantly create a realm which required 2 other people to make.
barbeloth only helped create the fate system, not created the world. That's why Alice is called the goddess of creation while Barbeloth is called the goddess of prophecyYeah but she also says this:
"Yep, that's right! But although it's the most impressive-sounding of the three, to be honest, we all made an equal contribution toward the founding the world"
So she needed the other 2 to help make the realm. So this doesn't help with being able to create the realm quickly if she needed the other 2.
Mate, your scan itself doesn't say anything about moving stars so I don't really know why you're so fixated on it.
You have yet to provide a timeframe and keep babbling about moving stars when it doesn't say anything about it. And of course she has dominion of it, she created it right? Doesn't mean anything if she doesn't use the realm's energy output to attack.
Yet it's not talking about moving it? Okay of course she not moving it but the entire sky and earth ITSELF which include whatever inside it. Come on man, the very context "sky/heaven and earth" is always talking about the entire universe or realm in east asia literature, this literally chinese fiction.Have dominion over it
Induced sky and earth to spin
Yeah for sure you totally lack of context to know what actually happen about it, it's talking about two realm.Yeah but she also says this:
"Yep, that's right! But although it's the most impressive-sounding of the three, to be honest, we all made an equal contribution toward the founding the world"
So she needed the other 2 to help make the realm. So this doesn't help with being able to create the realm quickly if she needed the other 2.
There's also the possibility of Kazuha's Electro being faster than baseline lightning speed, which would be supported by Kazuha and Raiden both being blitz levels above AR30 Traveler who, like I said earlier, can dodge CTG lightning in-game. That very feat by Kazuha was calc'd to Sub-Rel before, aswell as Raiden having instant-win statements against any human, including those who use lightning attacks (Personal I don't have a problem with Hypersonic Raiden personally, we quite literally have seen Lightning Move Comparatively MUCH FASTER than her with her Ultimate Sword technique, literally just watch the Kazuha Raiden Cutscene.
Thanks. Finally we can say Raiden > Saitama (with equal speed)Yeah, close thread. It's 5 AM and I'm going to pass out any time soon. Haven't slept in 21 hours.
It'd be easier for me to help in DMs or on Discord where I'm more active, I can send you mine in dms here. Furina can also help out hereI hope any here can correct the mistakes I made if I have any; I'm not in the best state of mind right now and can overlook some details. Any fixing will be appreciated. I'll update the descriptions to make it look more appealing tomorrow.
sure igIt'd be easier for me to help in DMs or on Discord where I'm more active, I can send you mine in dms here. Furina can also help out here
Yeah i can helpIt'd be easier for me to help in DMs or on Discord where I'm more active, I can send you mine in dms here. Furina can also help out here
ALO BREYeah i can help
Both Raiden's Electro and Kazuha's Electro were moving blitz levels faster than them. They are visually far slower than LightningThere's also the possibility of Kazuha's Electro being faster than baseline lightning speed, which would be supported by Kazuha and Raiden both being blitz levels above AR30 Traveler who, like I said earlier, can dodge CTG lightning in-game. That very feat by Kazuha was calc'd to Sub-Rel before, aswell as Raiden having instant-win statements against any human, including those who use lightning attacks (and if we really wanna push it, Keqing who says "speed of light" when she does hers aswell).
We also have confirmation of literally all the elements going beyond their baseline parameters aswell in both speed and AP, like we don't treat Anemo as wind-speed cuz it uses wind, we don't treat Hydro as going at water flow speeds, or Cryo as the baseline speed it takes to freeze a tsunami's water warmth to zero degrees, so why should we treat all Electro attacks as them all going at lightning speed? That would literally lead to inconsistencies in narrative (example; Traveler getting blitzed by Raiden (or her attack speed) and then him/her keeping up with her in their second fight)
I've explained it before, alice creating what M wroteALO BRE
giv me scan of witches drawin on book and creating these realms instantly
I already gave enough scans to deduce that. Adepti create their private space abodes just like teapot which use subspace creation and use realm dispatch into invite people into their realm which is the same as teapot subspace creation and tubby is referring to the same thing. Read this whole idle talk and tell me teapot subspace creation is not the same as adepti private space abodes. I showed how realm of clouds is actually called "Sea of cloud paradise" in CN text which in the material description stated how adepti make cosmic paradise with subspace creation. They both used the same words. This should be enough?? Any other mods who are reading this can check this too....I still strongly disagree with giving archons 4-A whether solid or likely but I am not a mod so....what can I say if you all are done with this thread and close itAdepti creates abodes, yeah, but where's the logic that all of it traces back to subspace creation? Also, you linked the description of the Mist Veiled Mercury Elixir the official CN name is 雾海云间的汞丹 which doesn't contain the term "洞天".
quote it here again.I've explained it before, alice creating what M wrote
Isn't that all in the OP?quote it here again.
also for those who apply 4-A please put in justifications about witches and starry sky ffs
no the scans provided dont even explain that, its just "oh im suprised she make my frog talk" whats the timeframe there wtf?Isn't that all in the OP?
Yes I know Raiden/Electro Kazuha were blitz levels faster than AR30 Traveler, I literally said this and Traveler being "visibly slower than (average lightning speed)" is a claim, not an argument. This claim has zero basis as we know Traveler when using Electro/lightning gets blitzed by Raiden. This means Raiden is faster bruhBoth Raiden's Electro and Kazuha's Electro were moving blitz levels faster than them. They are visually far slower than Lightning
1. AR30 Traveler scales to and above people in narrative that use lightning and thunder, a very good example is him/her scaling above Lisa, a human who uses thunder, in lore by the time they get to Inazuma, via him/her scaling to a casual Raiden who has statements saying she can instantly end a fight against humans, which she literally did against Traveler who isn't even human. Instant-ending fight statement is implicant that it's a blitz level statement against humans like Lisa, Razor and Keqing, aswell as others. This axiomatically proves Traveler would be >lightning speed, which makes the in-game mechanic consistent with lore and narrativeGameplay feats are invalid
1. There's no evidence they can replicate said feat out of it
2. The dash animation has a lot of invincibility frames so most dodges aren't even actual dodges
3. Evading CTG lightning doesn't require MHS+ either
Did you read like half of my argument? I said:If you can't take CTG electro as having the speed of lightning or having any concrete speed at all where then does the speed scaling begin to start in that case? Because to scale them to MHS+ using said electro there needs to be a basis and if you're claiming this basis isn't even Lightning speed. Then what, all lightning feats(there are none) become unknown
You just eliminated 80% of Genshin supporterspreferably by someone with a decent grasp of the English language
Then who else that Mage?I just renember something
The mage that created the Imaginarium Threater was never stated to be a Hexen.idk mage, so it cant be scaled to Venti
I meant to say that this scaling is base on the assumption that Madame Mage (Creathor of the Imaginarium Threath) is a mage of the Hexenzirkel, but theres 0 proofThen who else that Mage?
no other group of witches besides Hexenzirkel could do that.
in fact, there is no other group of witches besides Hexenzirkel
Theres only 1 group of Mage/Witches in Teyvat, Hexenzirkel.I meant to say that this scaling is base on the assumption that Madame Mage (Creathor of the Imaginarium Threath) is a mage of the Hexenzirkel, but theres 0 proof
Lisa existingTheres only 1 group of Mage/Witches in Teyvat, Hexenzirkel.