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Yes. Because the only thing that allows the protagonist to continue on like this would be through otherworldly abilities or in most cases, Supernatural Willpower, immortality or body control.
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Changing the Versus Thread One-Shot Gap
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Pikaman
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Yes, so if a character has Supernatural Willpower that lets them continue on through ridiculous injuries, we’re gonna class them as “one-shot” and “unable to fight” because they... sustained serious injuries from the first hit?
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Again, doesn't work for in-verse fights. Strictly for VS Debating matches only.
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No, the one-shot multiplier is strictly for versus-debating purposes. The multiplier will only apply if Character A's AP calc is X times higher than Character B's AP calc in a VS match.
THIS WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT APPLY TO IN-VERSE ONE-SHOTS WHATSOEVER, AS IN-VERSE ONE-SHOTS ARE TOO INCONSISTENT, AT TIMES NOT EVEN REQUIRING A 2X MULTIPLIER TO ONE-SHOT AND CRIPPLE.
Again, y'all are literally forgetting this thread's purpose.
Pikaman
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Yes but in vs matches sometimes crippling a character doesn’t stop them from somehow fighting at full capacity
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Such as Guts.
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That's why I suggested removing the one shot multipliers to begin with.
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Depends on whether characters get that adrenaline boost or are just running on fumes at that point. But sometimes, even being able to fight through all that damage means nothing if you are ultimately gonna die from said attack.
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That risks people making absurd stomp matches.
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Not to mention that would make finding match-ups much harder
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It'd still be more accurate than using the 7.5X rule.
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No, it wouldn't, removing the gap and replacing it with absolutely nothing just makes it more risky as people would make much bigger stomp matches. There has to be a line crossed for a one-shot
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Pretty much my sentiments.
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Just depends on the conditions of the match. Wouldn't you think an 8C with FTL speed would eventually beat a high 8C that only has subsonic speed through chip damage?
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No, we don't allow chip-damage. The 8-C would just break their hands if all they had was the AP and FTL speed without LS and had no semblance of intelligence to use and abuse for prep time or lacked other hax.
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That could depend if the FTL 8-C has much more hax than the High 8-C character, then they do infact speedblitz. But if not, the 8-C character even with FTL speed wouldn't be strong enough to speedblitz although the High 8-C character would never be able to touch them at all.
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So we basically ignored that someone with a crowbar could've broken down a brick wall after striking it hundreds of thousands of times?
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Yeah, pretty much. Read the Game Mechanics page. It applies to other non-game verses as well.
Either you scale fully or you don't scale at all. There's no in-between like "chip damage" in fiction. Otherwise we could make up bullshit presumptions that a human could beat Superman with chip damage by being swifter than him.
Breaking a wall with a crowbar doesn't mean you are 9-B. And you'd be going at it for days at a time.
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You're forgetting the point,
What would take days for a normal human would take seconds for those that are massively faster than them. So really. There's nothing wrong with irl chip damage
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what if people that could fight beyond serious injury are just harder to one shot
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That's not the case in ficiton, so you will have to make a whole separate CRT for it, though I doubt it will get anywhere really, given our strict policies on chip damage even with speed involved. We don't accept damage accumulation over time either.
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They need to be crippled to the point where no amount of willpower can allow them to effectively fight against the opponent on equal ground.
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ye
GodlyCharmander
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That's a stamina feat, what can we do?
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I agree. I’ll make a calc for destruction of the average human body.
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Destruction values here for usage. Just divide human mass with density to get volume.
Don't make vaporization values tho, we already have that here. Atomic destruction would be this (It says vaporization but the article clearly states the involvement of breaking every single atomic bond in the human body, which I don't have to tell you, qualifies for atomization). Don't think we'd need to go that far tho.
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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TBF tho I don't think we even need that ridiculous of a value to one-shot or one-hit kill really LOL
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Isn't that way too much of a simple one shot value?
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GET NINJA'D BOZO
XSOULOFCINDERX
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True, though Zamasu wasn't lying. No amount of endurance is shrugging that off XD.TBF tho I don't think we even need that ridiculous of a value to one-shot or one-hit kill really LOL
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Rip
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Yes. But tbf, this is the type of one shot to make your body go splat Saitama style.
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Is that a oneshot problem or a human durability problem, though?
Since durability is a range and our stat system is simplified as hell all arguments of such nature are kinda bad IMO.
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Organs aren't designed to survive blunt-force trauma tho, so that method would be unusable.
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