Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[Emerald]

These are the ongoing CRTs, btw.

Denji regen neg

yeah

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Chainsaw Man: Resistance to transmutation

yeah yeah

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Makima contract clarification.

Time to address the blatant elephant in the room. Currently Makima has a certain ability that is very easily abused by some individuals since the way her profile is worded makes it very easy to apply no limit fallacies. The contract with the Prime Minister. First of all, the explanation...

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There’s also the Aki and Denji upgrade crt that kinda died

 

[Zabazab]

I'm afraid that CRT is so necro that it doesn't count in the "3 CRTs per verse" cap.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Imagine Fujimoto just goes off the walls and makes Death Low 2-C since even the Universe usually doesn't escape death in science or mythologies

- Science: Heat Death of the Universe

- Norse Mythos: Ragnarök...the death and rebirth of the Universe

Etc etc

 

[Epiccheev]

I mean, Chainsaw Man IS the kind of series where i can see everything just going to shit in the end.

 

[Zabazab]

Fujimoto has stated that he thinks a hero is a tragic figure, and he doesn't believe being a hero and having a normal life can co-exist.

He thinks that a hero's story can only end when they stop being a hero- either by dying, or choosing to give up being one.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Fujimoto has stated that he thinks a hero is a tragic figure, and he doesn't believe being a hero and having a normal life can co-exist.

He thinks that a hero's story can only end when they stop being a hero- either by dying, or choosing to give up being one.

u have that statement?

 

[LordGinSama]

Gotta take mushrooms and binge CSM at some point.


***** trippy enough as it is now add mushrooms into the equation.

 

[Zabazab]

u have that statement?

"Hero" is a very sad person.

Heroes have a stronger impression of "forced to be" than "becoming a hero". However, in the final analysis, I think they are people who lack something.

[Talking about American Sniper]
Although he (Chris Kyle) suffered from a heart-attack, he still set foot on the battlefield 4 times, and finally... After watching such a movie, I can't help but notice. The hero will stand up and continue fighting no matter how many times, is this really such a beautiful thing?

...the power to save is entirely heterogenous, and no matter how hard you try, you cannot live normally.

Denji became a hero who protected mankind from Devils and was praised by the world. He became a necessary and loved existence. Although Denji is naïvely happy about it, the horror of being worshipped as an idol is also depicted in "Fire Punch".

The most correct way to end a hero's story, I think, is that the hero should give up as a hero.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Name 5 devils not introduced yet you think will be Primal Fears

Mine -


1. Pain Devil

2. Silence Devil

3. Fear Devil

4. Unknown Devil

5. God Devil


Yalls?

 

[LordGinSama]

Got a cool thread for yall. https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-divine-and-devils-gojo-and-dio-vs-alucard-and-makima.160058/

 

[SheevShezarrine]

I mean, Chainsaw Man IS the kind of series where i can see everything just going to shit in the end.

Can't wait for Death to show up and cause the Third Impact

 

[LordGinSama]

Watch the Death devil be some kid or some shit.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Watch the Death devil be some kid or some shit.

watch it be an exhausted-looking college-age drag king that's cosplaying J Robert Oppenheimer

 

[AnimesFreak2]

watch it be an exhausted-looking college-age drag king that's cosplaying J Robert Oppenheimer

"...I am Death...destroyer of worlds...pleasure to meet you Denji..."

 

[LordGinSama]

Also for the record if I were in CSM, chainsaw man would be like 2-A just based on my massive fear of chainsaws.


I used to cut down trees as a living and a few years ago I had a **** up where the chain broke and almost took off my right index finger. Ever since then I don't **** with chainsaws in any way shape or form.

 

[Zabazab]

I hope that Death looks less like Kiga, Makima, and Nayuta who are just women. Even a visibly ****** up woman-like thing would be fine.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Denji when Death turns out to be a big tiddy goth waifu

 

[Zabazab]

I never really thought about it, but wow it's weird that Devils can regrow entire limbs that they lost a while ago with a bit of blood, but when Darkness Devil disarmed everyone in hell, Angel Devil lost both arms permanently.

Meanwhile one of Aki's arms could be fixed, and both of Power's as well.

 

[LordGinSama]

I never really thought about it, but wow it's weird that Devils can regrow entire limbs that they lost a while ago with a bit of blood, but when Darkness Devil disarmed everyone in hell, Angel Devil lost both arms permanently.

Meanwhile one of Aki's arms could be fixed, and both of Power's as well.

Darkness Devil was let down tbh. It being revolved around such a cool concept and having the coolest design in CSM, we sure didn't get a lot on it.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

4. Unknown Devil

If you think about it, every single devil is just a mere facet of the fear of the unknown
People fear death because no one knows what comes next
People fear war because no one knows who will survive or what their fate will be
People fear darkness because they don't know what's hiding out there
And so on

If theres a Unknown Devil, he will be unstopable. However, we probabily will never know about his existence, and will keep being unknown from everyone

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Darkness Devil was let down tbh. It being revolved around such a cool concept and having the coolest design in CSM, we sure didn't get a lot on it.

Not getting a lot on it is kinda the point, fear of the darkness usually comes with fear of the unknown. Plus this was fairly early in the series' run so if we got a JJK-depth explanation of Darkness Devil and other primals way back then then the series would've totally blown its load in regards to that concept way too soon.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Let down?

It had one of the best introductions I have ever seen in manga

It truly felt like this eldritch horror beyond mortal comprehension

It will probably come back soon given this prophecy about humanity's end and the Death Devil

Might get a Denji and Power vs Darkness rematch where this time they have mastered all their power

Would be fire

 

[Zabazab]

Darkness Devil was incredibly mysterious, confusing, and was massively impactful.
Which I feel fits with it's concept perfectly.

Falling Devil is really funny and I love her a lot, but Darkness Devil truly embodies what I think of when the Devils with the names of primal fears are described.
"The transcendents" "Devils that have never once experienced death" "The insant we draw their attention, we'll die".

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Darkness Devil was incredibly mysterious, confusing, and was massively impactful.
Which I feel fits with it's concept perfectly.

Falling Devil is really funny and I love her a lot, but Darkness Devil truly embodies what I think of when the Devils with the names of primal fears are described.
"The transcendents" "Devils that have never once experienced death" "The insant we draw their attention, we'll die".

We all thought the Gun Devil was the final boss, this potential extinction level threat that humanity was doing everything in their power to reach the level of

Only halfway through PART 1 -

"Just some Gun Devil"

Ngl first time I read that shit I swear my jaw was hanging open

 

[SheevShezarrine]

I never really thought about it, but wow it's weird that Devils can regrow entire limbs that they lost a while ago with a bit of blood, but when Darkness Devil disarmed everyone in hell, Angel Devil lost both arms permanently.

Meanwhile one of Aki's arms could be fixed, and both of Power's as well.

Public Safety-aligned Devils are on a pretty short leash, so idk that they'd just let him sip on some blood immediately. He'd probably have to sift through a shitton of paperwork just to get an expired unit of O Positive

 

[Zabazab]

Like, Darkness does some ridiculous, very confusing shit, kills most of the supporting cast, and all that Makima can do is escape with everyone.

• Covers all of hell in darkness just by showing up, blitzing the entire cast and literally disarming them all at once.
• Replaces the edges of the panel boxes with their severed limbs??
• Instantly kills Quanxi, Pingtsi, Long, and wounds Power with a ******* sound-effect.
• Grabs the Stone Devil out of it's own Devil Power(???) and then turns both it and it's contractor into a crumbling statue.
• Turns Beam into a pile of body parts by pointing, makes Galgali explode by speaking some eldritch word.
• Denji is literally unable to close the distance as some sort of barrier prevents him from touching DD, then gets twisted into a pretzel.
• Gives Angel and Aki massive internal bleeding by looking at them, removes Princi's legs with a ribbit.
• LITERALLY REACHES OUT OF HELL THROUGH THE GOD-DAMN EDGE OF THE MANGA PANEL TO FULFILL A CONTRACT.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Wait did he cover ALL of Hell in darkness?

Or just that particular area they were in?

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Like, Darkness does some ridiculous, very confusing shit, kills most of the supporting cast, and all that Makima can do is escape with everyone.

• Covers all of hell in darkness just by showing up, blitzing the entire cast and literally disarming them all at once.
• Replaces the edges of the panel boxes with their severed limbs??
• Instantly kills Quanxi, Pingtsi, Long, and wounds Power with a ******* sound-effect.
• Grabs the Stone Devil out of it's own Devil Power(???) and then turns both it and it's contractor into a crumbling statue.
• Turns Beam into a pile of body parts by pointing, makes Galgali explode by speaking some eldritch word.
• Denji is literally unable to close the distance as some sort of barrier prevents him from touching DD, then gets twisted into a pretzel.
• Gives Angel and Aki massive internal bleeding by looking at them, removes Princi's legs with a ribbit.
• LITERALLY REACHES OUT OF HELL THROUGH THE GOD-DAMN EDGE OF THE MANGA PANEL TO FULFILL A CONTRACT.

Also about that last part

I actually love how Fujimoto did that

- Darkness reaching through the edge of the manga panel to fulfill Santa's contract

- Hell Devil doing the same when it went to snatch up those kids


It showed how the more powerful and primordial the devil, the more abstract their abilities are...it makes it seem like their power just transcend the boundaries of the manga itself...it's insane how well Fujigoato uses the panel borders to his advantage

 

[azontr]

I'm honestly surprised that the Violence Fiend wasn't stronger. Like, I know that the Darkness Devil is just insanely strong, but it seems weird that a Fiend that was previously a Devil that embodied the fear of Violence as a whole got fodderized so easily.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

I'm honestly surprised that the Violence Fiend wasn't stronger. Like, I know that the Darkness Devil is just insanely strong, but it seems weird that a Fiend that was previously a Devil that embodied the fear of Violence as a whole got fodderized so easily.

Yeah that was one thing that confused me when Primal fears were introduced

You would think the concept of Violence would be at least nearing Primal Devil territory

Though I guess surviving an $@#%*! from Darkness is an insane feat given even Quanxi couldn't survive a normal physical attack from the creature

 

[Giannysmag]

Yeah that was one thing that confused me when Primal fears were introduced

You would think the concept of Violence would be at least nearing Primal Devil territory

Though I guess surviving an $@#%*! from Darkness is an insane feat given even Quanxi couldn't survive a normal physical attack from the creature

Tbf he was a fiend so even if the violence devil was sub-primal level, he's fiend would be a lot weaker. If anything violence probably did the best out of anyone in hell since he forced DD to attack twice

 

[SheevShezarrine]

I'm honestly surprised that the Violence Fiend wasn't stronger. Like, I know that the Darkness Devil is just insanely strong, but it seems weird that a Fiend that was previously a Devil that embodied the fear of Violence as a whole got fodderized so easily.

Tbf Violence was handicapped by being in a Fiend form, had just shaken off his poisoning which was done to handicap him even further, and did better than everyone except for Makima, even Quanxi. If it had been Violence in normal Devil form running on a full tank, he probably woulda held his own for a hot minute.

 

[Zabazab]

Public Safety-aligned Devils are on a pretty short leash, so idk that they'd just let him sip on some blood immediately. He'd probably have to sift through a shitton of paperwork just to get an expired unit of O Positive

I doubt that, Power had her arms reattached with no bother, and Denji gets fed all the blood he needs.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

I doubt that, Power had her arms reattached with no bother, and Denji gets fed all the blood he needs.

She's kinda built different tbh, plus since Denji's happiness and subsequent destruction of it was integral to her plans, Makima probly had her hooked up with blood without having to go through any bureaucratic woes to keep Denji from getting too down in the dumps with an excess of amputations surrounding him on a daily basis. Also Angel probly was kept in his armless state since he could still be useful to Makima without them and not having them was an extra means to make sure he couldn't put up much of a fuss over his boyfriend Aki getting mind controlled by Makima.

 

[Zabazab]

Eh, maybe.

Also, the maximum regeneration for basic Devils should be High-Mid via blood consumption, as small Pochita and Hell Devil both get chopped into bits.

Pretty much as long as their brain isn't totally destroyed, and they recieve blood soon, they'll heal.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Eh, maybe.

Also, the maximum regeneration for basic Devils should be High-Mid via blood consumption, as small Pochita and Hell Devil both get chopped into bits.

Pretty much as long as their brain isn't totally destroyed, and they recieve blood soon, they'll heal.

I'll have time reread the chapters when I get home, but iirc Pochita was only shanked, and Denji was dismembered, and Hell Devil died and went back to Hell.

 

[azontr]

I'll have time reread the chapters when I get home, but iirc Pochita was only shanked, and Denji was dismembered, and Hell Devil died and went back to Hell.

Pochita was cut in half.

 

[Zabazab]

Was hard to tell with how his neck is sort of fused to his head and torso, looks like it's a low-mid or mid feat for Pochita then.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Was hard to tell with how his neck is sort of fused to his head and torso, looks like it's a low-mid or mid feat for Pochita then.

I agree with this

 

[LordGinSama]

Got a cool fanfic in the works between CSM and Hellsing which I'll probably post here once it's done.