Denji (Chainsaw Man) Rework

[Arkenis]

This wouldn't work because Post-Training Denji is At least High 8C+ then he is Building level in his post weakening key then he is at least High 8C+ again in his post fear boost key which will be higher with up coming feats

That isn't what the profile says?

First Key
Small Building level[Note 1] (Even before merging with Pochita, has shown to be capable of taking down low tier devils while using Pochita as a weapon and seemingly without any injury in spite of surviving on essentially almost no food every single day[10]. After his merge with Pochita, his impressive strength remained, being able to knock down Aki Hayakawa with a kick to his balls before briefly trading blows with him, albeit Aki had been caught off guard by the initial attack[9], and with the use of an axe; chopped off a fiend's head with ease[11]),

Second Key
Small Building level[Note 1] (After gruelling daily training with Kishibe, says that he's stronger than before and can take down much more devils easier[21]. Capable of both blooding Beam with a causal punch[38] and one of Santa Claus' Dolls with a kick to their face[39]),

Third Key
Small Building level[Note 1] (Should scale to before as his human form should be unaffected by the fear empowerment devils receive. Took out an entire horde of armed assailants with just his fists and a baseball bat[22]),

Fourth Key
Small Building level[Note 1] (Should scale to before),

We are talking about not transformed, I am saying there is no reason to keep stating it when there's no clear ton difference. A key is for stat difference and

 

[GunshyFever]

ah, doesn’t seem like i missed anything then. yeah, denji is completely motionless and doesn’t get up until his body is jolted by pochita taking over. it would make sense for him to lay there slumped if he was unharmed, but the idea that he was unharmed doesn’t make any sense in the first place since the same attack visibly harmed makima

Makima took a direct hit, not Denji

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Makima took a direct hit, not Denji

denji was right next to her. she was literally holding his hand. a direct hit on makima would still put denji pretty much in the epicenter of an explosion which visibly harmed an 8-B character. so probably an outlier for him to be completely unharmed by an 8-B explosion in base, unless you want to argue for base denji somehow being 8-B (stronger than his hybrid form lol)

 

[GunshyFever]

denji was right next to her. she was literally holding his hand. a direct hit on makima would still put denji pretty much in the epicenter of an explosion which visibly harmed an 8-B character. so probably an outlier for him to be completely unharmed by an 8-B explosion in base, unless you want to argue for base denji somehow being 8-B (stronger than his hybrid form lol)

Eh, that doesn't call off the 9-A feats, we still have a few low tiers surviving explosions in the Bomb Devil arc

 

[GunshyFever]

denji was right next to her. she was literally holding his hand. a direct hit on makima would still put denji pretty much in the epicenter of an explosion which visibly harmed an 8-B character. so probably an outlier for him to be completely unharmed by an 8-B explosion in base, unless you want to argue for base denji somehow being 8-B (stronger than his hybrid form lol)

And honestly its not an 8-B explosion, Its anywhere around 9-A - 8-C, It harming Makima is an outlier but Denji tanking it shouldn't. Maybe Denji just has more resistance to explosive attacks than Makima (Just like how the verse is weak to piercing attacks)

 

[Zabazab]

Maybe Denji just has more resistance to explosive attacks than Makima (Just like how the verse is weak to piercing attacks)

Makima is just a prime example of "Immortal characters appearing squishier than characters they are equal to just to show off their immortality."

 

[BigSmoke4269]

And honestly its not an 8-B explosion, Its anywhere around 9-A - 8-C, It harming Makima is an outlier but Denji tanking it shouldn't.

it makes far more sense for the attack to scale to those who it harmed. fujimoto didnt calc the yield of the explosion when he illustrated it, he wrote it into the story with the intention of it being an attack which harms makima

Maybe Denji just has more resistance to explosive attacks than Makima (Just like how the verse is weak to piercing attacks)

headcanonnnn

 

[GunshyFever]

it makes far more sense for the attack to scale to those who it harmed. fujimoto didnt calc the yield of the explosion when he illustrated it, he wrote it into the story with the intention of it being an attack which harms makima

headcanonnnn

He also wrote the story so that piercing attacks can harm most if not all of the verse regardless of it being a regular weapon like a gun, Denji previously while weakened in base has survived being in close proximity explosions, this just proves that Denji is more resistant to explosive attacks than Makima. After all Fuji could just be wanting to show off Makima's contract

 

[GunshyFever]

I tried the calc and got 9-B results, sad

Denji tanks a rocket launcher

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[BigSmoke4269]

i win

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[GunshyFever]

Honestly I think the profile is fine the way it currently is

 

[That_moron2]

Honestly I think the profile is fine the way it currently is

I think the new one looks way better

 

[GunshyFever]

I think the new one looks way better

No, I meant as in the new profile shouldn't be changed according to the suggestions here

 

[GunshyFever]

Also someone should get some staff to check this cuz it's been a while since this CRT has been up

 

[That_moron2]

No, I meant as in the new profile shouldn't be changed according to the suggestions here

The suggestions here are completely fine. Denji and Pochita are separate characters and should be split

 

[GunshyFever]

The suggestions here are completely fine. Denji and Pochita are separate characters and should be split

No like the comments (what Arkenis and others are suggesting) I don't agree with

 

[That_moron2]

No like the comments (what Arkenis and others are suggesting) I don't agree with

I see

 

[BigSmoke4269]

i agree with the suggested changes. thought i'd announce that

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me.

 

[Damage3245]

New profile looks fine to me.

 

[Ped2018]

Isn't this fine to be applied?

 

[Zabazab]

It is, yes.

 

[GunshyFever]

It is, yes.

Don't forget this

Key wise;
For all of Denji's key's of downscaling from Small Building level in his base, he should just simply scale to it because he has no anti-feats for downscaling from it. Same thing with Class 5 LS in his base. But I do agree with Denji downscaling from supersonic+ speeds from his Pre & Post training keys, but I believe she should just scale to it from his Post-Weakening and Fear Boost keys due to being depicted to just be outright faster

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Isn't this fine to be applied?

yea bro ill add it

 

[BigSmoke4269]

im gonna use a different translation for the quotes tho we are not having denji say “jerkface”

 

[GunshyFever]

If you decide to add it now, keep in mind the new "possibly Class G" scaling for Pochita, the justification is already on his profile

 

[GunshyFever]

im gonna use a different translation for the quotes tho we are not having denji say “jerkface”

Honestly Id say we just keep the translations the same, the profile is alright the way it currently is

 

[BigSmoke4269]

nah

 

[GunshyFever]

nah

yah

 

[BigSmoke4269]

the quotes dont even have proper grammar bro they arent staying

 

[GunshyFever]

the quotes dont even have proper grammar bro they arent staying

Just fix the grammer, also if you change the text too much the images will be affected (since they are in an orderly fashion when you switch tabbers) but if you fix it and they remain the same I'll be fine with it

 

[BigSmoke4269]

okay

 

[GunshyFever]

Pochita needs to be added to the Main page

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

New page for Denji is looking really good. Glad to see the CSM character profiles are finally being properly worked and given references. I think there's still progress that needs to be made with some pages like Kishibe, but overall the CSM fandom is looking far better now than it did a few months ago.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

i think the references might be messed up tbh.. on aki’s profile at least

 

[GunshyFever]

i think the references might be messed up tbh.. on aki’s profile at least

I'll fix it, although that profile needs a revamp

 

[BigSmoke4269]

yea some of the stuff on akis profile is pasted from the chainsaw man wiki and has to be replaced

 

[GunshyFever]

yea some of the stuff on akis profile is pasted from the chainsaw man wiki and has to be replaced

I usually always do that with the notable attacks/techniques section, I don't see it as a problem really

 

[BigSmoke4269]

do you guys think denji would want to be a dom or a sub, obviously he’d be a sub im just wondering what he believes