Superalexiy said:
Vietthai96 said:
like i said, both Ise and Kiba mention it, but feats and calc debunk it. You need to remember that almost all of FTL to MFTL speed of many characters is through feats, scaling and calc. Feats/Scaling/Calc > Word of Author > In-Universe Statement
One more thing is context, sometime writer like to use flowery word to increase the intense of battle or thing. And this is fiction story with magic, they have light doesn't mean they move at speed of light or even Harry Potter verse will have FTL to MFTL We need feats and calc for speed, not statement.
What feats debunk the statement that Vali is FTL? If someone with a lot of knowledge on combat speed like a Knight states that someone is as fast as light at a given time, I'm inclined to agree with it on principle. Word of author = Word of Issei and Kiba at this point, given how much exposition we rely on them for.
Of course writers can exaggerate it but Vali was stated to be Lightspeed+ since Volume 3, and nearly everytime he's around he's restated to be light speed.
First, Highschool DxD is narrated by 1st person view with different characters, not 3rd narrator. Most of the time Ise narrating the series, and he is the stupidest character of the series, even most serious character like Sona can exaggerate thing, Azazel we don't talk about because of his joking character, but even him or insane strong and knowledgeable character at that time of the novel like Sirzech, Grayfia and Serafall don't talk a thing, so if you think Word of Character is Word of Author so you pretty dumb, word of character is they descride thing in their perspective, and different character have different perspective. It could be Vali actually move at speed of light or it just that his move look so flashy that make Ise and Kiba use the word
speed of light, or he so fast to their eyes that they start claiming wow he move at light speed. Seriously you tell me that Kiba have a lot of knowledge on combat speed, yeah assuming it right, but the matter is if he can't perceive Vali movement, he can't indicate him moving at speed of light. For example, when an object moving at a speed that making a blur in your eyes, can you calc this object speed?. In order to calc Vali at speed of light, Ise and Kiba must be atleast
Sub-Relativistic+ to
Relativistic in speed so even if they can't perceive Vali movement, scaling and calc can make Vali speed is SoL, but there are no feats or even statement that Ise and Kiba move and react that fast.
Second, time to debunk:
- Lightning being considered relevant valid threat (Abaddon intercepting Akeno's lightning mini storm surprised her) and Star Knight Boost form blitzing Abaddon before she could react was considered impressive in vol 10, which make no sense if they could already perceive FTL movement back in vol 4-5.
Similarly Kiba who could catch up with Issei used a lightning bolt to attack a peer enemyin vol 10. Said enemy can intercept said bolt, but if Kiba was FTL, his enemy who could somewhat match him would not need to intercept the bolt and just leisurely walk away from it.
Well much like how wuxia like to describe an attack as weighing thousands of pound and as fast as lightning, but then the same character fail to destroy lowly iron bars when trapped in a cage.
