Butter, You made me do this.

[Necromercer]

Giorno Giovanna vs Patchy the Pirate.

Patchy is Blood lusted, and he has prior knowledge of GER

GER is allowed, and Gio starts off with it.

Speed =

End this win streak: 0

Wins again: 0

Most Likely Outcome: 3

 

[Lavcore]

giorno can't kill patchy and patchy can't kill giorno.

incon

 

[Necromercer]

counted

 

[Buttersamuri]

If giorno can't kill patchy. Patchy time hacks and plot hacks. Can giorno stop this

 

[Necromercer]

they never happen. GER restes them as they happen. the reset is passive. This can only be incon.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Plot hacks counter GER. Unless it shows to actually reset despite the plot changing it. Plot hacks and time hacks say No

 

[Necromercer]

time hacks are reset, and plot is also reset. he would never get the chance to use any of these abilities, thanks to the passive return to zero.

The most likely outcome Is they try to watch spoungebob, but then realize they can't turn the TV on, thanks to the passive power of GER.

They cry themselves to death.

 

[Buttersamuri]

No. That's a big no. GER does not effect the plot. It resets yes. But Plot hacks changes what literally happens. Aka. It says to to GER. That ability doesn't have any resistance to Plot manipulation. So Plot hacks counter. The GER can't effect the plot. Patchy can

 

[Necromercer]

but it's not passive. It has to activate, and that never happens.

 

[Buttersamuri]

It isn't passive. It's current. It takes an action and resets it to 0. (Getting this off other threads) But Patchys plot hacks changes what it does. Aka. Patchy thinks, the plot changes, and GER doesn't work because the Plot hacks countered it.

 

[Necromercer]

but it's stated to be passive in canon.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Isn't it passive once GER is activated which you activate it by a thought??

 

[Buttersamuri]

But it can't reset his action to 0 if his action changes the plot and what it actually does. Because the Plot changes and that changes what GER does. Patchy can effect the ability itself via plot and thought

 

[Necromercer]

but the plot can't change if it never was changed.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Except it can cause it's the literal plot. It's what happens. It effects the power itself. GER can't stop plot from changing it. If the plot changes where GER stops working. It stops working. It can't reset cause I'm the plot, it didn't happen. Using your own argument against you

It can't reset, if it never happens according to the plot.

 

[Necromercer]

okay. The ability is not passive. It never happens. Therefore, the plot never changes.

 

[Planck69]

Except it can cause it's the literal plot. It's what happens. It effects the power itself. GER can't stop plot from changing it. If the plot changes where GER stops working. It stops working. It can't reset cause I'm the plot, it didn't happen. Using your own argument against you

It can't reset, if it never happens according to the plot.

One, I don't think he'd open with plot-hax that make GER stop functioning when he doesn't know what it is. Two, it doesn't matter whether it's reality warping, plot manipulation or the like, as long as you need to act to use it, it gets reset to zero. Patchy has to do something for his hax to activate and that act is undone by GER before he can screw them over (assuming Patchy knows that he specifically has to change the plot to stop GER from working).

Definitely incon.

 

[Necromercer]

counted.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Where does it say it's that passive?

 

[Planck69]

Where does it say it's that passive?

Canon? I honestly don't know what to tell you dude.

 

[Buttersamuri]

I'm just looking around and seeing different things. Like "GER still needs to activate"

 

[Necromercer]

official description. Besides, even if it wasn't his GER should activate faster than Patchy's plot hax.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Hacks are Thought based. So no.

 

[Axl233]

Dude,GER stomps so hard is not eveen funny.

Diavolo can activate his hax with a thought and eveen him got stomped.

GER turns Patchy into a statue.

 

[Planck69]

I'm just looking around and seeing different things. Like "GER still needs to activate"

OK, let's go with the assumption that GER needs to activate. Patchy isn't immediately opening with plot-hax against something he's never dealt with specifically to write away it's powers (I may not be a Spongebob expert but even I know that would be OoC for him). GER immediately sets his willpower to zero and he'll no longer really fight.

Actually, this might be a stomp if he uses his willpower manipulation. I'll let someone else clarify that for me but I think you now understand why this goes nowhere.

 

[Necromercer]

This still cant really be anything but incon. Why? Neither can really kill the other. How would patchy even know to use such an attack to open? Giogio opens with GER, almost always in character. From what I understand, Patchy does not open with plot hax.

 

[Buttersamuri]

He opens with time hacks the most. Which time freezes. Or even going revering or going back in time would be ways that give him the time he needs

 

[Necromercer]

GER specifically counters Time Hax.

 

[Lavcore]

Dude,GER stomps so hard is not eveen funny.
Diavolo can activate his hax with a thought and eveen him got stomped.

GER turns Patchy into a statue.

giorno can't kill patchy and patchy can't kill giorno, patchy has durability far surpassing giorno's ap so giorno can't do anything to him while patchy can't do anything to giorno because "lolno"

this is the definition of an incon.

 

[Buttersamuri]

How so? Also, still had to be activated first.

 

[Necromercer]

Diavolo's entire schtic. Also, it was already active.

 

[Schnee_One]

GER rewinds everything Patchy does and sets his will to zero

 

[Lavcore]

um correct if i'm wrong but doesn't GER resist time manip and '''not''' giorno?

 

[Axl233]

giorno can't kill patchy and patchy can't kill giorno, patchy has durability far surpassing giorno's ap so giorno can't do anything to him while patchy can't do anything to giorno because "lolno"

this is the definition of an incon.

Incapacitation is a still a thing you realize?

 

[Buttersamuri]

It would need to be activated. From what I see. GER still needs to be activated.

 

[Schnee_One]

It's a stand, he always has it

 

[Lavcore]

giorno can't kill patchy and patchy can't kill giorno, patchy has durability far surpassing giorno's ap so giorno can't do anything to him while patchy can't do anything to giorno because "lolno"
this is the definition of an incon.

Incapacitation is a still a thing you realize?
i don't think you know how many MUDA's you'd need to take down a low 7-C character with only 8-C punches.

 

[Necromercer]

^

 

[The_Calaca]

"Roses are red

Deku is no hero

Your shit has now returned to zero"

Incon FRA.

 

[Axl233]

So what?Patchy is not a acasual eveen if he uses his hax first wich is not eveen in character he gets all of his actions reverted and turned into a statue.