Boa Hancock VS Gunvolt

[The_Smashor]

Those scans don't look like good precog to me. The first one has nothing even close to precog in it. The second one makes it seem like the precog is too vague to be all that useful outside of specific situations.

Also, can we at least attempt to be professional? You removing your post doesn't change the fact that you called my argument "******* stupid".

 

[Eminiteable]

Make a CRT on it then since these are already accepted as is hancock using observation in battle which includes precogntion.

 

[Eminiteable]

I am being professional, i removed it as soon as i made it because i was in utter shock that someone would first tell me to make a CRT for something already on her profile and then later without even knowing what haki was or what the accepted standard was for it make assumptions on how it functions based purely on word of mouth, i'm sorry but that's ridiculous.

 

[The_Smashor]

I'm not saying she dosn't have it. The second scan you showed me (And only the second scan, mind you), showed me that these characters can, in fact, use precog. However, the quality of the precog is questionable.

 

[Eminiteable]

that is literally from a character who just then used it unconciously... there are plenty of other cases of precog in the series but this isn't the place to bring it up nor am i the person to inform you, look it up for yourself and if you disagree make a CRT.

 

[The_Smashor]

I agree that the Precog exists. "How good is the precog?" is what I'm asking.

 

[Ryuga21]

Logically, Hancock's precog should be as good as Sandersonia's but here in he wiki we don't scale haki so her precog is on a unknown level.

 

[Eminiteable]

Hancock since we're scaling off her sister should be good enough to do this

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Did I get the votes right?

 

[Eminiteable]

I still vote for Hancock. GV's AP advantage is negged and I dare to say Hancock is stronger than him. His limited resistance doesn't make her petrification less effective especially when it's very in-character to smash the stone to pieces.
How "teenager" is Gunvolt when related to women? Hancock would surely take advantage of her charms to distract him.

You missed calaca

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

OK. I'll add his vote.

 

[The_Smashor]

I see. So she can dodge some rapid punches. Probably good enough to dodge GV's darts, but Gunvolt's stronger skills like Astrasphere and Voltic Chains mean he can definately land hits.

Has anything blocked Slave Arrow before?

 

[Eminiteable]

(as to not confuse I'm not saying out of verse it cannot be blocked, because it's unknown) Slave arrow hasn't been blocked before.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

I see. So she can dodge some rapid punches. Probably good enough to dodge GV's darts, but Gunvolt's stronger skills like Astrasphere and Voltic Chains mean he can definately land hits.
Has anything blocked Slave Arrow before?

I think there was one time where Nightin managed to reflect Hancock's Slave Arrow, but she had prep time and a prior knowledge of what Hancock was capable of (and still lost).

 

[Eminiteable]

I think there was one time where Nightin managed to reflect Hancock's Slave Arrow, but she had prep time and a prior knowledge of what Hancock was capable of (and still lost).

I didn't bring up 3D2Y movie as it's non-canon (which is why i also didn't challenge the fact pistol kiss can't be shot multiple times in succession like the movie showed)

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

I think there was one time where Nightin managed to reflect Hancock's Slave Arrow, but she had prep time and a prior knowledge of what Hancock was capable of (and still lost).

I didn't bring up 3D2Y movie as it's non-canon (which is why i also didn't challenge the fact pistol kiss can't be shot multiple times in succession like the movie showed)

I forgot that was in a movie lol

 

[The_Smashor]

Looking at Viper's Danmaku, do you think GV would be able to dodge Slave Arrow?

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Looking at Viper's Danmaku, do you think GV would be able to dodge Slave Arrow?

Not sure. But then again, I'm not allowed to vote on this since I made the thread, and thus my opinion doesn't really matter either way.

Or does it?

 

[Eminiteable]

It's hard to determine with the differenses in dimensions. The second phase of his danmaku seems easier to dodge than slave arrow would be considering it's seperated chunks but idk about the first since it's hard to compare. Although considering the further the range the blasts seem to seperate making space so maybe astream of arrows would be harder to dodge (especially at closer range)

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

It's hard to determine with the differenses in dimensions. The second phase of his danmaku seems easier to dodge considering it's seperated chunks but idk it's hard to compare.

Is Slave Arrow danmaku fired in any particular pattern? Or is it like an all-out swarm?

 

[Eminiteable]

It's hard to tell if it's fired in a pattern, i suppose it doesn't cover her in like a sort of attack shield like Viper's does but it does shoot in one direction

 

[The_Smashor]

Wait a second. The arrows. They get turned to stone as well as what they hit a target.

The arrows are physical.

Flashfield can block them.

 

[Eminiteable]

I think that's just an anime inconsistentcy since the manga didn't have the arrows turned to stone

 

[The_Smashor]

But they still stick in their targets, so they're probably physical.

Flashfield can block physical projectiles around the size of an arrow pretty consistantly.

 

[Eminiteable]

How does flashfield function and how would it hold up to Hancock spamming slave arrow?

 

[The_Smashor]

Gunvolt can activate it instantly. It's an omnidirecional sphere of electricity that can block several types of projectiles. It also is how Gunvolt attacks tagged enemies with electricity. There's seemingly no limit to how much it can block, but Gunvolt's EP means he'll need to stop using it to recharge. Considering Slave Arrow seems to have a pretty big windup and lasts for a much shorter time than flashfield can be up, that shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Eminiteable]

Can he move and attack while it's activated?

 

[The_Smashor]

Yes. In fact, Flashfield is his main method of attacking tagged targets.

 

[Eminiteable]

Hmm in that case I'm going to say Hancock would likely use slave arrow to combat him if he stays at range for what little it will do and will be able to dodge his projectiles via observation haki.

Eventually the distance between them will lower and CQC will come into effect with Hancock's observation she should be able to tell when he's going to use his flash field so she can protect herself with armament haki, once CQC becomes possible I feel Hancock will win this with her higher AP (she scales far above the feat she is currently being scaled too like was brought up above), stat amps grants by Armamentt and whatever petrified bodypart will turn to stone and destroyed.

 

[The_Smashor]

Gunvolt debateably scales above his feat, too, so I'd say they're even.

GV's also a master martial artist, and Astrasphere would deal a lot of damage if Boa got close. Crashbolt is a great "get off me" tool that Gunvolt can basically use for free.

Dragonsphere is another move that would help in the close range department, as Boa would take considerable damage from it unless she backed away.

 

[Eminiteable]

How far does he scale above his feat, can some insight be given.

 

[The_Smashor]

Ghauri (Where the AP feat comes from) is just a minor antagonist in Azure Striker Gunvolt 2. He's comparable to Copen, who can defeat Ghauri as well as three other members of The Seven in succession.

 

[The_Calaca]

So he just scales above the feat.

 

[The_Smashor]

Basically.

 

[The_Calaca]

I dare to say Hancock's physicals should be on par if not higher than GV based on the scaling chain (but I won't jump the shark so hard) and Haki is essentially a big boost on Hancock's AP and Durability.

 

[The_Smashor]

Gunvolt can boost his AP and Dura as well, though dura dosn't matter as much.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

This is actually a good thread. There's actual debate going on, not a one-sided stomp for either side.

I'm so proud.

Sorry if I'm not over this lol. I'm just happy that the thread is still going.

 

[Smashtwig]

Oh boy. Something happened here. Hold on, I'll be here in a sec.

 

[Smashtwig]

Can someone summarize the points made here real fast?

 

[Smashtwig]

Okay, from what I know, the new points are

Boa has Precog (I dunno the potency but I'll assume that it's really damn good)

Boa has Arm. Haki, apparently makes her stronger and tougher

Slave Arrow is Physical, and can be blocked by Flashfield

Do I have this correct?